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Offline helicopterjim

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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2019, 19:31 »
I had an 84 bog as well.
Not worth a penny.

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I had a 1980 MHR ........ it was actually a 79 SS tarted up with a fiberglass cover over the tank and all.
Crashed it ......... then raced iot and crashed again ....... then made new bodywork and raced it some more and crashed it some more.

When I was done it wasn't a MHR anymore ........ but it was more like what Hailwood actually raced then when I first got it.

I can say that out of the box with 40 mm carbs, Imola cams and open exhaust it was clocked at 144 mph. I think it was only the fact that the policeman was very much into bikes that I got away with than one.

No idea where it is now but I do have the data tag from the headstock somewhere ......... could be worth 50K if played right.

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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2019, 21:57 »
its a bog stock 84 -had one

If you're talking about the MHR, it's not 84. At least the engine isn't. Could be an 84 chassis and bodywork, but they didn't have the old square case engines in 84.

Jim, yes, the 78-80 MHRs were as you say. Tarted up 900 SS. I reckon the factory just slapped together a quick look-alike to cash in on Mike's 78 IOM victory. With all the bodywork it would have been quite a bit heavier than the 900 SS.  Later models were a bit better. At least the tank was real. The 84-85 MHRs, as well as the contemporary S2 models, had (in my opinion at least) the best bevel engines to come out of the factory. Bit of as shame they ceased production of the bevels in 85.
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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2019, 22:17 »
MHR frame is significantly different to a 900SS frame. Many more bends where they are straight tubes on the SS.
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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2019, 22:30 »
Maybe this SS in MHR clothing is catching on, well with prices anyway. I think anyone who has to write a long winded for sale post on his bike knows he is asking too much.

https://www.bevelheaven.com/bikes4sale/MA-MHR/index.htm

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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2019, 23:01 »
Maybe this SS in MHR clothing is catching on, well with prices anyway. I think anyone who has to write a long winded for sale post on his bike knows he is asking too much.

https://www.bevelheaven.com/bikes4sale/MA-MHR/index.htm
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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2019, 23:12 »
None of the factory production MHRs were anything like the bike built by Sports Motorcycles, that Mike actually raced. They were all just a vague cosmetic tribute. The original bike was built from a round case engine.

For a true replica (if such a statement has any meaning), check out the 12 bikes built by Brook Henry at Vee Two Motorcycles. If you want to know what the Hailwood bike was like to ride, that's about as close as you can get, unless you can get your hands on the actual bike!  https://www.cyclenews.com/2018/08/article/vee-two-mike-hailwood-replica-set-to-debut-at-classic-tt/. I'd love to have one, but I guess with my budget, I'll have to settle for the Minichamps 1:12 model  :(
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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2019, 00:13 »
With all the bodywork it would have been quite a bit heavier than the 900 SS.
It was a heavy fairing and also more weight to the seat unit.

Much lighter in race trim ..... I had a second fairing made ..... two piece (the original was a one piece ...... what a nightmare to remove). With instruments, lighting and so on removed and a race tacho installed, race exhaust and seat unit from Sports Motorcycles it tipped the scales at 384 pounds with about one gallon of fuel. Wasn't going to change the game with all the performance of the Japanese bikes in the early 80's ...... but I could get into the top ten fairly regularly at Mosport.
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I don't have a 1977 Honda XL 175 but I do have a Chang Jiang CJ750 with a sidecar.

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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2019, 04:17 »
RIVET COUNTER ALERT !

Still own my 1982 Hailwood bought in 1982. A few things not right for that era MHR. The one thing that did arouse my interest is the
4 drilled holes in the RH case that in my experience was a French market site for a rivetted on metal tag as well as other dubious
stickers and placards even the Berliner headstock one. Probably a decent bike but provenance shaky...

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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2019, 17:09 »
I think it must have been mid 80s, a couple of us turned up at the Ducati meet at the Waterfall in the Isle of Man, TT mad sunday, we were late and quite hungover, in one corner of the car park was a car and trailer, on the trailer was the remains of Sports Motorcycles 851 (I think)
they had crashed in practice and there was little left to salvage. Next to the bike was a hand written sign, Sports Motorcycles were looking for somebody to buy another bike ( I seem to think they needed about £11000) if you were prepared to help they offered to give the sponsor Hailwoods TT winning bike from 78, I thought long and hard about this, I had just borrowed the money to buy my first house and it was sat in the bank, needless to say we walked away.
Years later Steve Wynn did some work on my bike just before he left the UK, he remembered the offer well and couldn't believe nobody took him up on it.

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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2019, 20:06 »
It's amazing how many people eat that long-winded, over flourished bullshit up-

I know, I hate reading all that flourish bullshit.

They go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about flourish bullshit. :D
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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2019, 07:18 »
... USD 16.100,–  :o :o :o
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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2019, 07:34 »
... USD 16.100,–  :o :o :o
Ciao, Gert

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72 SF
74 3C
75 3C
79 (81) Formula Mirage 1200
Various Ducati's, Guzzi's, Puch's ... a BSA Sloper and maybe even an R90
I don't have a 1977 Honda XL 175 but I do have a Chang Jiang CJ750 with a sidecar.

Chilliwack, British Columbia

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Re: SFC Replica is back again and again
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2019, 09:07 »
Again.

Paul