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Offline Paul LeClair

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Re: Marzocchi AG-Strada
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2018, 05:26 »
The vintage remote reservoir remote reservoir shocks look fabulous. However, is it all appearance or do the Marzocchi remote reservoir work reasonably well after a rebuild? Say, maybe at least as good as a current set of Ikons or similar?

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Re: Marzocchi AG-Strada
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2018, 08:11 »
I had the pair of  Marzocchi Symbols rebuilt by a well-respected Suspension bloke, they have a 4 clicker rebound damping adjustment and on No3,1 off fully hard they are okish. They're using all but 5mm of available travel, but they're far from supple. The whole time he was rebuilding them he kept saying you're wasting your money, better options are available but their megabucks, he was talking Wilbours. Compared to the Icons on my 3C they are noticeably harsher. If I finally fix the crap Maz forks with the next round of mods then better shocks are the next stop.

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Re: Marzocchi AG-Strada
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2018, 08:45 »
The vintage remote reservoir remote reservoir shocks look fabulous. However, is it all appearance or do the Marzocchi remote reservoir work reasonably well after a rebuild? Say, maybe at least as good as a current set of Ikons or similar?
I still have my Koni's on Paul!

The rebuilt Strada's are looking pretty in one of the spare bedrooms at the moment! Perhaps I will put them on this weekend and assess the difference!
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Re: Marzocchi AG-Strada
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2018, 09:27 »
This subject draws more flak than an oil thread!

Here's my take on it.

I restore both Cerianis and Marzocchi Stradas.
Once done they are as-new, take that for whatever you want.

All I will say is that I rode a hell of a lot harder back then with either standard Ceriani or Marzocchi shocks than I do now with much more modern suspension, and I wasn't getting my back jarred by harsh shocks.
I currently have a Wilbers monoshock on the rear and Maxton-modified Marzocchis on the front of my bike.
Nice ride but I think the monoshock and braced frame are the cause.
I will be fitting standard Cerianis to my 007 1200 restoration and it will be ridden as intended. It will be interesting to make the direct comparison, jumping from one bike to the other.

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Re: Marzocchi AG-Strada
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2018, 01:16 »
... jumping from one bike to the other.

Sounds like a good stunt. What speed will the bikes be going when you make the jump?
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Re: Marzocchi AG-Strada
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2018, 01:36 »
Mine on damping 3 and handles well, less damping and it does wallow. They are just not very comfortable. The major difference between average low cost or older style shocks and the new expensive stuff is the ability to work with fine tolerances, maintaining contact with the road even on tiny bumps. You don't need the ability of a racing star to feel the difference. This ability often comes from the rubber bellows in the shock, these deteriorate quickly allowing the gas to mix with the oil. That's why lots of the modern stuff needs servicing yearly.

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Re: Marzocchi AG-Strada
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2018, 05:03 »
Vince, in all your posts it seems you are very sensitive to minor fork or shock changes.
Me, not so much.
Maybe to do with quality of the roads in different countries?
In the many Strada rebuilds I have one I have yet to find any deterioration of the rubber bladders in the reservoirs.

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Re: Marzocchi AG-Strada
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2018, 06:22 »
Maybe its because I spent so many years riding pre-long travel suspension dirtbikes trying to keep up with post long travel bikes. When the bike trys to drive your hips down past your thighs on big jumps the penny also drops.I do get grief from the locals when I say how rough a particular road was and I get a blank stare. It's a revelation when you do ride a well set up bike. I have an old Husky with Ohlins piggybacks with the perfect springs for me, had to send to Sweden for them including the short initial spring in the dual stack and the grip these produce is amazing. My more modern dirtbike when the expert suspension bloke had at it, he dropped the forks 3mm and that made a huge chance. 3mm, I couldn't believe such a tiny change did what it did.

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Re: Marzocchi AG-Strada
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2018, 20:47 »
Gowanloch Ducati in Australia is now stocking rebuild kits for the AG-Strada shocks
The Ducati shop doesn't have the bladders.
The Laverda shop has them in stock 
www.laverdaparts.com.au DAM Classic Racing. Price is in Oz Dollars

Click on the name of the part or the picture to get some extra info.
https://damclassicracing.com.au/55120049-ag-strada-seals-kit-for-12mm-shaft/
https://damclassicracing.com.au/55120049-1-marzocchi-ag-strada-bladder/
https://damclassicracing.com.au/50210600-bush-for-marzocchi-ag-strada/
https://damclassicracing.com.au/categories/badges-decals-stickers/other-decals-stickers.html
and a free download for the rebuild instructions
https://damclassicracing.com.au/55120049-2-marzocchi-ag-strada-rebuild-instuctions/
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Re: Marzocchi AG-Strada
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2018, 02:31 »
Blimey Greg. You've almost inspired me to restore the old Maz stradas off my Ducati. They've been resting in a box for about 10m years since I put a pair of YSS shocks on the bike.
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