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Offline Grant

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Importing a Bike
« on: November 08, 2014, 08:24 »
There is a lot of misunderstanding and misinformation about importing a bike. Several folk on the forum have done it but I am sure there may be several more who would consider it if they understood the system better.

I had a discussion with Giles, the shipper (Shippio) I usually use and he kindly agreed to map out the details of importing a bike. He works out of the UK and can sea or air freight anywhere in the world.

Note:
This is not a hard sell, merely a detailed explanation with examples of what is involved in importing a bike to your country.
You are free to use any shipper you want, or any bike transport company you want. You are not tied to Shippio or me.


I asked Giles to cover 3 main areas:

- Importing a bike into the US
- Importing a bike into Australia
- Importing a bike into the EU (in this case from the US)



I will summarise below what he wrote:

Importing into the USA:

Restrictions:
Providing the vehicle is over 25 years old, there are no restrictions on permanently importing into the USA. If the vehicle is under 25 years old, then only race or off-road vehicles may be permanently imported.

Packing - The USA is very strict on the type of packing materials arriving into the country. As such all of our packing materials are ISPM-15 compliant to ensure no problems are encountered on arrival.   

Documentation Requirements: 
Passport photo page 
Bill of Sale 
Registration document
 
Shipping Process:
Your motorcycle can be collected from across the European Union by fully enclosed motorcycle truck or you are welcome to have the motorcycle delivered into one of our depots. 
We then have your motorcycle professional packed into a custom wooden crate to ensure maximum protection during shipment. Your crated motorcycle is then shipped by ocean or airfreighted directly into US terminal or airport. Our US agent will then take over to look after the local US formalities. This can include as much or little as you prefer. Some customer prefer for their motorcycle to have the complete treatment, delivered to their door rolling ready to go. Others may prefer to collect still crated from their local terminal. 
We can tailor to your requirements. 

Pricing:
Vehicle shipping to the USA is very cost effective and it’s actually one of the cheapest and easiest destinations. Ocean shipping can even be organised to US inland terminals as shipping lines automatically transport inland by rail. Often airfreight should be considered as pricing may be lower than you expect. 

Pricing example:

Crating & shipment of a Laverda 750 to arrival into New York ocean terminal:   
GBP 620

US Terminal Handling 
GBP 57

US Customs Clearances 
USD 425

US Port Charges & Handling 
USD 240

US Import Tax 
0.125%* of the value of the bike 
0.3464%* on the value of the bike ( Min $25 / Max $485) 
This extra tax is only for ocean freight shipments (Harbour Maintenance Fee) 
* Depending on value

US Import Duty:
2.5%* if the bike is 699cc or over 
FREE if the bike is 650cc or under 
* Depending on engine and value
 
US Import Bonds:   
$4.50 per $1000 value of the bike x 3 ( Min $75 ) 
Example US$10,000 value bike = 10 x $4.50 x 3 =   USD 135   

Optional additions: 
Transit insurance – to cover for loss or damage during transit 
Delivery un-crated to door in the USA by fully enclosed motorcycle truck.   

Importing into Australia

Restrictions:
Providing the vehicle was manufactured before 1st January 1989 there are few problems experienced in permanently importing into Australia. Later vehicles may be imported, but only if you owned and used them for a period of 12 months outside of Australia.

Quarantine: 
Many customers worry about the cleanliness regulations when importing a vehicle into Australia. The inspectors don’t insist on fumigation of every vehicle that arrives and many have no problems. They are specifically looking for signs of dust, seeds or soil with specific attention to often forgotten areas of a motorcycle. These include underneath the seats and under mud guards. 
A fumigation certificate prior to shipment is no guarantee that Australian Quarantine inspectors won’t insist on additional fumigation on arrival. Many customers choose to have their vehicle clean before shipment, then take the chance of fumigation charges on arrival. These are typically under AUD 200.

Packing:
Australian MAFF inspectors are very strict on the type of packing materials arriving into Australia. As such all of our packing materials are ISPM-15 compliant to ensure no problems are encountered on arrival.   

Documentation Requirements: 
Passport photo page 
Bill of Sale 
Registration document 
Australian Import Approval Certificate (https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/vehicles/imports/new.aspx#anc_application)

Shipping Process:
Your motorcycle can be collected from across the European Union by fully enclosed motorcycle truck or you are welcome to have the bike delivered into one of our depots. 
We then have your motorcycle professional packed into a custom wooden crate to ensure maximum protection during shipment. Your crated motorcycle is then shipped by ocean or airfreighted directly into Australian terminal or airport. Our Australian agent will then take over to look after the local formalities on arrival. This can include as much or little as you prefer. Some customer prefer for their motorcycle to have the complete treatment, delivered to their door rolling ready to go. Others may prefer to collect still crated from their local terminal in either Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide or Perth.
We can tailor to your requirements.

Pricing:
Vehicle shipping to Australia is certainly cost effective providing you obtain your import approval certificate. Often airfreight should be considered as pricing may be lower than you expect.   
Pricing example:
Crating & shipment of a Laverda 750 to arrival into Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth or Brisbane ocean terminal:   
GBP 645

Terminal Handling & Arrival Charges (Australian) 
AUD 555

Customs Clearances (Australian) 
AUD 150

Quarantine Charges (Australian) o This excludes fumigation charges. Fumigation is not always required and depends on the inspecting officer 
AUD 255

Import Tax (GST) 
10% of CIF value* 
CIF is the combined value of the motorcycle, shipping costs and any insurance policies. 
For more information please see: http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4371.asp   
* Depends on value
 
Import Duty: 
Free for motorcycles 
For more information please see: http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4371.asp   

Optional additions: 
Transit insurance – to cover for loss or damage during transit 
Delivery to door in Australia by fully enclosed motorcycle truck

Importing a bike into the EU (in this case from the US)

Restrictions:
There are no restrictions on permanently importing motorcycles from the USA into Europe and the age of the motorcycle will dictate the amount of Duties/taxes charged on import into the EU.
 
Documentation Requirements: 
Passport photo page (New Owner) 
Bill of Sale (Notarised) 
Registration document (Original US Title)

Shipping Process:
1.       Collection in the USA – Optional:
Most Vehicles tend to be shipped from Chicago, Seattle, Los Angeles, Houston, Miami, Savannah or New York and will need to be transported to the port for loading. If the seller is unable to drop the bike into a local depot, we can certainly arrange collection from across the USA by fully enclosed motorcycle truck for you.  A full condition report will be made on collection for your records. 

2.       Loading, shipping, UK import customs clearances and local charges:
On arrival of your motorcycle into one of the depots, your motorcycle will be photographed and professionally loaded into a vehicle shipping container for shipment to arrival into UK port. We will then clear through customs ready for you to collect from Felixstowe, GB (We can arrange forward delivery to your address if required). 
You will need to allow a realistic shipping time of between 4 -7 weeks from the USA depending on the location. Many people quote less, but US customs authorities alone can take over 14 days simply to authorise export of the motorcycle from the USA.

3.       Customs Duties & Taxes (HMRC Charges):
You will also need to pay any import duties and VAT on import of the motorcycles into the EU. Providing your motorcycle is over 30 years old we may be able to import at the reduced levels of zero duty and 5% VAT.
These are calculated as follows:

Duty and VAT:
Duty – Motorcycle 250cc and under: 8%
Duty – Motorcycle over 250cc: 6%
VAT – Vehicle less than 30 years old: 20% of value of vehicle + all shipping costs + Duty
VAT – Vehicle 30 years and over  (Please note that no Duty is levied either): 5% of value of vehicle + all shipping costs

Please note: 
We organise the payment of these to HMRC for you and we will add on a 2.5% charge on the monies paid. 
VAT Adjustment factors may also apply 
We may be able to obtain a customs ruling for either ‘collectors’ or ‘historic’ vehicles manufactured after 1950 so that they may be imported duty free and at the lower VAT level. 
Further detail may be found at http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/sectors/consumers/personal- vehicles.htm#1 

4.       Delivery/Transport of the motorcycle across the EU – Optional:
You are quite welcome to collect your motorcycle from Felixstowe, GB, or alternatively we can deliver by fully enclosed motorcycle truck to your address across the UK or Europe. 
We can tailor to your requirements.   

Pricing:
Vehicle shipping from the USA is very cost effective, especially when you take into account the reduced duty/vat charged on vehicles over 30 years old.

Pricing example:

Collection of a Laverda 750 motorcycle from Washington DC to our New York depot by fully enclosed motorcycle truck 
GBP 285

Loading, shipping, UK import customs clearances and local charges: 
GBP 695

Customs Duties & Taxes (VAT) 
Depending on value

Delivery/Transport of the motorcycle Felixstowe, GB to Paris, FR 
GBP 295   

Optional additions: 
Transit insurance: 
To cover for loss or damage during transit to the motorcycles full value 
Procurement Service:
If you find a motorcycle of interest, as well as a shipping service, we can also offer a procurement option to control when funds are paid to a seller in order to give you maximum peace of mind.   

Shippio Ltd, 75 High Street, Wollaston, Northamptonshire, NN29 7QE 
T: +44 (0) 1604 419 815   
email: admin@shippio.com
« Last Edit: November 08, 2014, 08:27 by Grant »
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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2014, 08:36 »
So thats about $5K to import your $30k Jota to Oz.
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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2014, 10:31 »
I have used Giles on three occasions and found his service to be very good. On each occasion he arranged for bike and parts to be picked up from seller, and crated.  Last bike was the Atlas and only problem was that the bike was not cleaned well enough - that meant that quarantine got to steam pressure clean the bike at something like 4000psi, which took a fair bit of paint off and damaged sheathing on ignition wiring - the bloke using the pressure cleaner had no idea what he was doing (got way too close to everything with nozzle, as learners always do) which was 'annoying'.  When I complained they waived the extra charges, which were about $2-300...  Lesson is, do insist and make sure that the bike is thoroughly cleaned of dirt and exterior grease, paying particular attention to under mudguards, wheels and engine.  Once it gets here and is deemed dirty, you do not get a chance to nominate who cleans it - the quarantine folk have all the power at that stage.

That said, I would always use Giles for any motorcycle import.

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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2014, 10:37 »
So thats about $5K to import your $30k Jota to Oz.

Only if you paid $30k for it... sometimes you can pick up a real bargain bike in great condition for a lot less..
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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2014, 10:54 »
I realise that Yoges,GST is the killer on high end imports.10% of your total price adds ,well 10 %.
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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2014, 10:58 »
Well, declare a low value then...
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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2014, 11:11 »
Well, declare a low value then...
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Who states the value ? Buyer or seller ?
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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2014, 11:17 »
Want me to spell it out?
Use common sense.
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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2014, 11:20 »
Depends who the seller is I suppose.
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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2014, 21:11 »
Just be careful with declaring a low value. It can bite you in the arse.

A friend of mine declared a low value on a bike to reduce tax charges. Then he went to insure it at its actual value and the insurance company queried the different valuations on his paperwork. He explained the reason and the they refused his insurance on the grounds that he had just admitted to committing fraud. Their opinion being that if he was prepared to defraud the government, he might defraud an insurer. He was lucky that they didn't report him to the police. If you get refused insurance by one company, others generally won't touch you either. He is now unable to insure any of his bikes.
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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2014, 21:30 »
I heard that some buyers and some sellers have the audacity to agree to two different bills of sale.

Just saying..
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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2014, 23:26 »
Hey Grant

Thanks for taking the time to post the info.


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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2014, 23:43 »
So thats about $5K to import your $30k Jota to Oz.

It's closer to $2500 as your $30k Jota is only worth $30k once it arrives in Australia. Have to admit the cost is going up all the time as the AUD$ slides...

I notice Shippio have dropped their freight charge by £100. Also, they do pack the bikes in the crates very well and don't mind if you want to use up excess space with other spares etc..
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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2014, 01:52 »
ay Andy,  you well know i hold you personally responsible for forcing me to purchase another Laverda motor-bicycle.
no, i didn't 'need' another, but when someone was bidding on an ex USA, very low mileage SF2, located down in Vic.
i can recall saying to Red, "some poofta is gunna get it for under 10 grand".
& the poofta turned out to be a pom.   ::)   and it was indeed a 'new' 40 year old Laverda.  all standard and clean.

anyhow, within a year, Shamrock had put a price on another very low mileage SF2. so i just had to have it !!
it was also standard and clean. & only 4,791 miles on the clock.

it's been worth every dollar.  (well no, but let's not talk about the poofta government fees & farken charges !! )
SeFFie now has clocked up 5,792 miles and is running sweet as.  just ask Sweetas, ay.   8)

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Re: Importing a Bike
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2014, 02:05 »
 (congrats) (congrats) (congrats)
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