Poll

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Which of these takes your fancy?

No 23
6 (9.8%)
No 4
10 (16.4%)
California Dreamin
14 (23%)
Wart Hog
4 (6.6%)
Lean and Mean
7 (11.5%)
Spanish Delight
3 (4.9%)
Skeletor
6 (9.8%)
Shades of grey
11 (18%)

Total Members Voted: 53

Voting closed: May 01, 2013, 20:39

Author Topic: Bike of the Month-Motoplast  (Read 20489 times)

Offline sfc1000uk

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2013, 12:32 »
I reckon skeletor has the bodywork nearest to looking right except for that fucking awful fairing.

that looks the sort of shonky cheap piece of crap that gets nailed to the front of a blandit by someone who's into the shitfighter scene. It's horrid.

But the seat & tank look better than most of the others...

Reckon that of the others, california dreaming is my favourite, Spanish Delight runs it close but the exhaust looks wrong to my eyes.

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2013, 14:11 »
Shades of grey ....like some girls these bikes are best seen with the lights out.

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2013, 14:24 »
Shades of grey ....like some girls these bikes are best seen with the lights out.

Mind, you don't look at the mantlepiece when you're poking the fire...

the one place you can't see how truly bowfing some of these bikes are is from the saddle.

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2013, 16:57 »
you see my problem now with this frame: there is not one bodywork existing, that I am tempted to copy...  >:(

The competition is 1 year to early, Jack...  ;)
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Offline motoddrob

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2013, 00:38 »
Hey Lothar, what type of frame do you have? I see 2 different designs with the photos posted.
Do you have any bodywork with your frame? Starting from scratch turns into a huge job if you undertake the project yourself. I'd never do it again!!
I'd want Boba to be my new best friend if I was you ;D
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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2013, 01:02 »
To me I would be finding a way to conform the bike shape to fit my body while mounted on the bike,better get some spray foam Loathar.I recommend a liberal coat of anti stick material,that foam doest like coming off.Did a job once where I was practically swimming in it,I was scrapping it off my body with a razer blade for a week.Be a good idea to video it,might be slightly amusing.

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2013, 01:19 »
Skeletor for me but loose the fairing and orange wheels. I prefer that frame design too. Best seat unit of the lot too. Cal dreaming is nicely finished but I'm not keen on full fairings and it has too much bodywork.
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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2013, 03:56 »
To me I would be finding a way to conform the bike shape to fit my body while mounted on the bike,better get some spray foam Loathar.I recommend a liberal coat of anti stick material,that foam doest like coming off.Did a job once where I was practically swimming in it,I was scrapping it off my body with a razer blade for a week.Be a good idea to video it,might be slightly amusing.

Vince,

it's a little unclear to me, but are you suggesting Lothar puts the foam on the bike, or himself? Sounds borderline kinky, what with the anti-stick material and razor blades.  :o

bazzee  ;)

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2013, 04:34 »
With that foam it docent mater where you want it to go,it does its own thing.I was half joking and half serious.The bodywork needs to follow the form of the rider to make him or her comfortable and make removal of it reasonably easy plus be reasonably aerodynamic.Looking at the above pics,its not an easy solution.Your governed by the structure and the rider,how many options are there considering the above restraints.That tends to explain why graphics got a bit push,and why most bikes tend to look alike.So what make one a beauty and another a dog?I know what I like but don't know why,habit maybe.

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2013, 08:09 »
you see my problem now with this frame: there is not one bodywork existing, that I am tempted to copy...  >:(

The competition is 1 year to early, Jack...  ;)

Time for you to develop soething new :D

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2013, 08:21 »
I agree they are very difficult to turn into a pretty bike, but the later version with the (mostly) straight tubes is the best basis, not the spagghetti version which is the one they sold the most of. Quite a few of them ended up here in Holland and Belgium at the time, some of them were raced, Dutch importer at the time 'Moto City' raced one as indeed did Belgian 'Team Enzo'.

I remember at the 1981 24 hours of le Mans, the Enzo team struggled with a leaking tank. It simply was not a decent construction. Now if that was done for the sake of beauty..

Wanted to include pic but option for attachments seems to have disappeared..

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2013, 09:20 »
Hi Rob, Vince and all,

the frame I have is the one on Option 3,4,5,6 and 8 of the competition. I like it a lot more from the styling side, though I think the other frame is way lighter (less tubing...) and not that "dominant". My frame though offers at least SOME lines you can work with, so hopefully, I will be able to shape things less ugly than the examples on the 1st page...

I do have a tank that's rear part I do like quite much, however, the builder seem to have lost patience when it came to the top and front...

But as I have to make up a tank myself anyway (bottom does not give enough space for longer bellmouthes etc. and shape is ugly of the tank I have), I will use this tank as a basis shape for the rear and work from there.

Seat unit I must admit I haven't seen ANY lately, that does fit the bike perfectly. THAT will be the biggest challenge to get right, besides the overall line...

Fairing is the least problem, as I do have 3 that would fit the bike and at least 2 are not the most ugly ones. Also, the frame provides a lot of mounting-points already for the (half-) fairing I am thinking of. But first, I have to collect the front rim and tripple clamps from Piet, put some rubber on the rims and some other things to get the thing onto its wheels. Then I can start shaping the tank's upper side and get an impression what to do with the seat etc.

Finding the right position for the footrests is the next issue then... Seating position is influencing not only the comfort but also the handling in curves etc.. To much forward and you end up with a bike that slips over the front and has to much rear-wheel spin as well as a less effective wind protection from the fairing, to much backward and you arms might be to short and sitting might be very uncomfortable for long distance rides and turning in to small bends might be a problem. I will need some help of some experienced person here, I fear...
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1000 Motoplast - currently under construction

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2013, 09:21 »
My vote goes to the #79 Enzo one which is not in the list.

Not chauvinism I always liked the untidy Bevilacqua brothers way.

Remember going in Jemappes (Enzo's workshop place) back in the years was colorful each time.

Better to be patient  ;D

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2013, 09:57 »
I am pretty sure that Enzo had more than one special, but all I could find was this one:



which does not seem to be a Motoplast. Any idea what frame that is?
750 SF(0) 1971 #9934 *sold*
1000 SFC Classic 1989 #3367 *sold*
1000 SFC 1985 #2934 currently under restoration
1000 SFC Preproduction bike 1985 #0001 *sold*
1200 Jota 1981 #7474
750 S-Formula 2000 #1602
1000 Motoplast - currently under construction

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Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2013, 10:02 »
Nico Bakker

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