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I guess i'm in a minority, but i avoid buying Chinese made products at all costs. For one, more often than not the quality is absolute shit. The product looks the part, but that's it. Spade connectors come to mind. The Chinese ones have absolutely no grip, and if they do, they only grip once, whereas quality German or U.S.-made connectors will work for years. Electrical components, I won't even consider. My limited experience has a returned results of 100 percent failure or dissatisfaction. And mechanical items, again, rubbish. Automotive brake pads. Crap. Brake rotors. Crap. Granted, some of the larger concerns such as Mahle and others have set up quality manufacturing plants to take advantage of favorable labor rates, but when the product is unbranded and unsupported by a major, known manufacturer with true skin in the game, 9 times out of 10 it's crap.

I can also agree with a lot of that... but there seem to be exceptions.

A couple of years ago I found myself with a couple of warped discs on the front of my triple and the Bikers Classics were only a week away.  I had previously altered the front end and had fitted 320mm Kawasaki discs which I had sourced on eBay.   Braking was as expected, but the discs were in bad condition.  New discs were not readily available, and would have cost an arm and a leg if they had been.  I ordered a pair of wave discs from China, half-expecting them to arrive late AND being crap, but they only cost Ä148 for the pair, including shipping!  What could possibly go wrong?  If they turned out crap, they might at least get me over the weekend, I could always throw them in the skip afterwards.

They turned up 3 days later, fitted and worked perfectly!  They showed no signs of warping or overheating during the Bikers Classics weekend and are still fitted to the bike to this day.  In fact, they look exactly the same as a much more expensive aftermarket brand (Braking, Italy) available here.  I'm suspecting they are actually identical, only sold without branding.

I am still wary of chinese stuff, and have fallen on my face since as well.  But usually, it doesn't hurt too much financially if it doesn't work out.  Safety-related stuff should be more closely considered and inspected before fitting.

Reckon a very large proportion of the stuff we use for our bikes these days originates from China, even if sold under well-known brands, gotta read the small print.

piet
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I guess i'm in a minority, but i avoid buying Chinese made products at all costs. For one, more often than not the quality is absolute shit. The product looks the part, but that's it. Spade connectors come to mind. The Chinese ones have absolutely no grip, and if they do, they only grip once, whereas quality German or U.S.-made connectors will work for years. Electrical components, I won't even consider. My limited experience has a returned results of 100 percent failure or dissatisfaction. And mechanical items, again, rubbish. Automotive brake pads. Crap. Brake rotors. Crap. Granted, some of the larger concerns such as Mahle and others have set up quality manufacturing plants to take advantage of favorable labor rates, but when the product is unbranded and unsupported by a major, known manufacturer with true skin in the game, 9 times out of 10 it's crap.

Think i agree with a lot of that ATM - but I remember well that "Made in Japan" was only for crap stuff when i was in my Yoof - I prefer to use good quality used stuff if available rather than Chinese - but I have used Chinese for a few selected things  and, so far, have been lucky. - Time will tell and we'll see how it all evolves. - Regards - Phil
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General Discussion / Re: Photo Depository for 2019 Calendar
« Last post by Grant on Today at 13:53 »
Nice one.
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General Discussion / Re: Photo Depository for 2019 Calendar
« Last post by aebbern on Today at 13:52 »
Here are are a couple of my recently finished 1200.  Out on a shakedown ride in SW Alberta - lots of smoke in the air from nearby fires in SE BC.


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I guess i'm in a minority, but i avoid buying Chinese made products at all costs. For one, more often than not the quality is absolute shit. The product looks the part, but that's it. Spade connectors come to mind. The Chinese ones have absolutely no grip, and if they do, they only grip once, whereas quality German or U.S.-made connectors will work for years. Electrical components, I won't even consider. My limited experience has a returned results of 100 percent failure or dissatisfaction. And mechanical items, again, rubbish. Automotive brake pads. Crap. Brake rotors. Crap. Granted, some of the larger concerns such as Mahle and others have set up quality manufacturing plants to take advantage of favorable labor rates, but when the product is unbranded and unsupported by a major, known manufacturer with true skin in the game, 9 times out of 10 it's crap.
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For Sale / Re: Nice RGS 1000 Executive for sale SOLD or not?
« Last post by Shamrock on Today at 13:32 »
Hi,how did you with the local buyer,is the bike sold?

He didnít have all the funds to complete the purchase.
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Technical / Re: EZ-Pull Clutch set up for Jota
« Last post by olly on Today at 13:03 »
Right - I'm going down the £11.99 eBay route first...I'll report back of course - but it's going be a long long time in the future :( Bike sounds very poorly sick.
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Technical / Re: EZ-Pull Clutch set up for Jota
« Last post by CLEMTOG on Today at 13:01 »
both myself and The Old Duffer, plus (maybe) Charley boy Greenstead use a triumph master cylinder from any 80's Triumph bike and you have an instantly lighter hydraulic clutch, not original, but very cheap, I have bought several M/C's for 15 quid, and been using one for about ten years,then just chucked it and fitted another, saving the original Brembo for posterity.
CLEM
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Technical / Re: EZ-Pull Clutch set up for Jota
« Last post by Vince on Today at 12:46 »
We have been over this a lot,I love my extended lever and some hate them saying it shortens the friction point and makes getting neutral imposable. Mine works fine. To me it highlights how individual each bike might be.I know someone who also says I change gear to much as well.Anyway you now know both sides and can make up your own mind and enjoy what happens.
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Technical / Re: EZ-Pull Clutch set up for Jota
« Last post by Grant on Today at 12:39 »
I know you've probably learnt this from bitter experience but I'm curious why, if something is "grippier" it has to be pushed together as hard?

Grip and pressure are the key elements here.
I wouldn't say the Kevlar plates are any grippier, just behave differently on the limit to conventional friction plate material.

I maintain that a well tended system (new cable, least tight bends on cable routing, cleaned and greased pivot point) is not excessively heavy, does not destroy clutch cables and doesn't pump up your arm.

I fitted an extended lever arm to a customer bike and after use the owner agreed with me and reverted back to the original lever arm size.
Go hydraulic rather than fuck about with weaker springs.
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