LaverdaForum

Laverda Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: CLEMTOG on September 13, 2017, 09:52

Title: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on September 13, 2017, 09:52
took the side stand (Bushman/Lawton/Jotajoe/Kawasaki) off the bike (TOG) and was horrified to see that the hole in the bracket has seriously elongated, I was fitting another stand which I had lengthened because the first was always a bit short, that too has a worn bracket. Took the whole caboodle to a mate locally who turned a brass bush, bored the worn hole round (using the threaded side opposite it as a guide) , straightened the fork on a fly press and then machined an "end float" shim, in the meantime the second stand is on the bike and seems a tad too long (dammit) so that need a bit of adjustment, and a bush also. after only two days the first one came back with a pressed in brass bush and a shim just under 1mm fitted, and all is nice and tight but smooth running, I bet they were never like that from Kawasaki when new!, so refitted the original, made an extension for the second and dropped that round to Paul for his expert attention as well, very satisfying work and the turning/milling at a very reasonable cost of a score, well he is always borrowing my bike trailer!!!!
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on September 16, 2017, 10:28
Fitted the very latest 'Brake Lever Hand Span Adjustment Technology' to the SF0.  Much better now. AKA a tap washer...
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4438/36418843804_0c00095dd9_z.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on September 16, 2017, 18:10
Stiff Little Fingers syndrome?  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on September 16, 2017, 19:37
To come to the ground of things, I then drilled and tapped 3 old float bowl plugs and equipped them with hoses to have looksee. Result can be seen.

Regards,
Stefan

U-tube manometers in action: I like that.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sonomalaverda on September 17, 2017, 00:44
With help from the archives on both forums and emails with Grant I managed to fix a  " 2nd gear only " problem with my 750. While I was at it I fitted a very nice sump plate fit from Shaun Dampier ( excellent service to Northern California thank you ) , changed the oil and generally got to know the bike a bit better.

On the bike stand the fix seems to have worked. Will ride as soon as possible and fingers crossed all will be OK.

Proof if ever needed that the archives and forum are priceless.

ALEX
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on September 17, 2017, 01:12
Fuel consumption back down to 6.5l/100k, engine fully recovered to former strength. (bigthumb)
It seems adjusting the float levels with the carbs up is not accurate enough and might give erratic results. It is also much easier to ensure that both float bodies are on exactly the same level with the carbs taken off the engine.
Regards,
Stefan

Hey, Stefan, which of those levels is correct and approximately where on the (front) of the float bowl is that level when the carbs are in-situ?
thanks
AndyW 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on September 17, 2017, 08:06
Went for a spin out in the hills !!

Me mate Rocket says "we will try a couple of fire trails"......... that would be great as the Jota has always travelled well over dirt rds  8)

Well after we left the spot in the photo  :o :o  the track was more suited to a trials bike !!!
Surprise Surprise, Bugger me thats another discipline the Jota handled with aplomb  :D

Who says ya need to park up ya Jota and buy an Triumph Adventure bike....  Rocket !

Great day to be out n about  :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on September 17, 2017, 09:03
Well I did go riding on my latest 3C rebuild in the morning hangover and all :( :( :( :(
Then took the Bevel out after fitting a new clutch pack.
Oh those 900SS's are soooo good! particularly when the clutch is not slipping its tits off.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Gravelroad on September 17, 2017, 10:31
Hey, Stefan, which of those levels is correct and approximately where on the (front) of the float bowl is that level when the carbs are in-situ?
thanks
AndyW 8)

Hi Andy, the left one on the pic was at least close of being correct. Didn't check the level in situ at the front of the bowls. But I checked again the levels after re-adjusting the levels to 17.5mm with the carbs sitting straight up on the workbench, and found it exactly at the float bowl tops. Real level inside the float bowls probably a tad lower, as the hoses I have used for testing had only a internal dia of 2mm or so (capillary rise). I'd say if you check the levels in situ by this method, the levels should be at, or slightly below the splitting seam between float bowl and carb barrel, when the hoses are placed centered at the side of the carbs.

Regards,
Stefan
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on September 21, 2017, 12:40
today we took the two girls out for a leisurely ride around QLD Raceway, have a race meeting in 15 days time so had to give them a bit of a run, never went above 9,500 rpm once 
needed to cure a small misfire in #63 we picked up in the last race at Philip Island and #86 just needed some heat cycles and quick run in on her fresh engine
top day, great time with Paul and MarkQLD at the track, 3 old farts playing with 2 old clunkers, does not get much better than that


(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4399/37175139496_fc6f09fcaf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YD3iNY)MP Sept (https://flic.kr/p/YD3iNY)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on September 21, 2017, 12:49
Good on you boys - hope you enjoyed one another's company and that the day was productive.  Certainly looking forward to seeing you in Sydney in a couple of weeks time.

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on September 21, 2017, 13:06
Fitted some slightly lower bars to the Flying Bogie.

For this bike, I want to keep an upright relaxed riding position, but the GT/Police bars are so tall my neck gets a backward crunch when hitting a bump in the road. Needed to get my head's CofG forward a bit, over the neck.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4332/36514084133_fb2e2f1c7e_z.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4353/36932185840_4b8c0315fa_z.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on September 22, 2017, 00:18
That first set of bars look like they belong on a chopper!

The new bars are a more sensible height, but you may find them uncomfortable for another reason.  They appear to be designed for dirt bike riding (lot of standing up on footpegs) because the grips are angled up at the ends.

While you're sitting at your keyboard, close your eyes and do the air motorcycle pose - put your arms out in front and make fists as if you're gripping an imaginary set of handlebars. Open your eyes and note the angle of your hands. That's the angle you want your hand grips to be.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on September 22, 2017, 00:35
For this bike, I want to keep an upright relaxed riding position, but the GT/Police bars are so tall my neck gets a backward crunch when hitting a bump in the road. Needed to get my head's CofG forward a bit, over the neck.

Try a set of "Semi-Western"s as fitted to the late 60s early 70's Triumphs including the Hurricane. Might look a little wide at first but, as the grips don't force your elbows in are very comfortable, not too high and afford very good control of the machine..


I put a set of Darmah bars on my SF2 which transformed it in terms of ergonomics.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on September 22, 2017, 00:47

Try a set of "Semi-Western"s as fitted to the late 60s early 70's Triumphs including the Hurricane. Might look a little wide at first but, as the grips don't force your elbows in are very comfortable and afford very good control of the machine..

Have you put Semi-Western bars on the MV yet?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on September 22, 2017, 00:55
One of the rules I took notice of when riding dirt bikes was to never have your bars tilted upwards, tends to lock the wrists and elbows, plus it looks naff ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on September 22, 2017, 01:13
Have you put Semi-Western bars on the MV yet?


Settle...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on September 22, 2017, 02:00
Settled :D :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on September 22, 2017, 02:01
One of the rules I took notice of when riding dirt bikes was to never have your bars tilted upwards, tends to lock the wrists and elbows, plus it looks naff ;)

One of the things I learnt riding my dirt bike to Cape York and back was to tilt them upwards, most of the trip was standing on the pegs.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on September 22, 2017, 02:12
One of the things I learnt riding my dirt bike to Cape York and back was to tilt them upwards, most of the trip was standing on the pegs.


That's a long way/time to look naff, Chris.. ::) ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverda SF on September 22, 2017, 02:48
Kinda like that BSA Tiger Bar onna 750 SF but the Honda CB 750 Bar was STD and Tiger bar was great onna Triumph 250 Scrambler.

Some Yamaha bars (Specifically the 450's) where the same but you had to cut them down to length and they didn't have the useless hole in the right hand for whatever electrics.

For that matter you can defile a Yamaha 2 Cly 4 Stroke CDI Ignition to fit our 750 SF's.

To tell you the truth I have never had problems with the Breganzie point system as long as you keep them adjusted and clean.

There are a few minor tricks to keep the points from denigrating and that is to use Amphoric Gasket on the case and drill a small hole in the bottom of the case for moisture to drain out off the cover.

In other words keep the points dry after you have washed her. You might need a little alcohol swab and a fine file to sharpen the points with a shot of Rust Check.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on September 22, 2017, 03:48

That's a long way/time to look naff, Chris.. ::) ::)

You're right .................. but it's better than having a pair of arse cheeks that extend from my nuts to my neck.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on September 22, 2017, 10:59
Thanks for the tips on the bars guys. The ones I have just fitted are photogrphed without adjustment after riding. They will surely end up rotated flatter than they are. Changing the bars uncovered some 'imaginative-solution' wiring issues, into which Class-A drugs were surely a contibutor. This delayed the test run, so when I have ridden/adjusted we will see what can be achieved. The bars were free, so if unsuitable at least they will provide shape info. I'm off to the Classic Bike show on Stafford (UK) soon so even better shaped bars can be got there if required, all shapes and sizes.  The Semi-Western shape looks comfy, I'll check em out.

Next thing to do to get the bike to fit me will be to trim of a little bit from the footpeg length - i.e. width. Can't get on with it when foot-down at junctions.

By the way, 'Semi-Westrn Bar' on google gets you into a whole new world of gay scence mountach trimming. Think Village People.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Ventodue on September 22, 2017, 15:30
By the way, 'Semi-Westrn Bar' on google gets you into a whole new world of gay scence mountach trimming. Think Village People.

 :o.  The places that Laverda ownership can take you ...  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on September 22, 2017, 20:03
Especially a 120...  ;D 8) :-* :P (banter)...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on September 28, 2017, 17:42
Had a cracking ride out on Sunday to Bury hill which is a Local-ish meeting point in West Sussex (UK) a trio of bikes,myself on the Jota,a P&M GPz racer and a retro XJR1300...so all very different.......the Jota was superb on the open road and felt like thundering horses under you,now just over 700 miles under my belt and i love it  ;D

here's a little snap shot


(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1000932%25202_zpsm92ndfsw.jpg&hash=bfd7ffae2a2abee8a82ddea008d21985) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1000932%202_zpsm92ndfsw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on September 28, 2017, 23:09
Would be a bit worried about that long haired yahoo lurking in the background, just above the Jota's seat :-[
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on September 29, 2017, 09:54
Ha ha ...........he will like that,he owns the P&M  :D......but i will be sure to keep an eye on him  ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on October 01, 2017, 14:56
Finally finished the paint on my gusseted frame and got the engine in with the assistance of my son. Rear wheel back on and now starting to look like a bike again. Next job is to pull the forks apart, put in some new seals, the new Racetech seals and springs and then get the front back on with the Brembo 4 pots that have been sitting patiently in a box for a couple of years.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on October 02, 2017, 00:05
Have you put Semi-Western bars on the MV yet?


Working on it: just got to finish fitting the GearSack rack first... ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on October 02, 2017, 02:49
Noticed the side-stand was a bit slow to retract on yesterday's ride. Dismantled, cleaned, greased and put back together this morning. Got to keep on top of the little things ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Chalkie on October 06, 2017, 22:06
Dropped my engine off at Laverda Soczia for Keith to give it the works.

Time to start saving!

Worth it

Cheers
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on October 07, 2017, 01:03
Dropped my engine off at Laverda Soczia for Keith to give it the works.

Time to start saving!

Worth it

Cheers

You're not expecting a quick turn-around then  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Chalkie on October 07, 2017, 22:55
No, Keith told me I am about 10th in the list.
But at the rate I am doing the rest that's fine.

I can wait
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: padlock on October 08, 2017, 19:33
Dropped my engine off at Laverda Soczia for Keith to give it the works.

Time to start saving!

Worth it

Cheers

Ill give you a clue. Dropped mine off a year ago only just got to the front of the queue. But yes, will be worth every not inconsiderable penny.

FFFANARCHY
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on October 11, 2017, 00:43
Ha ha ...........he will like that,he owns the P&M  :D......but i will be sure to keep an eye on him  ::)

That P&M Kawasaki looks very tidy.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on October 13, 2017, 20:35
Pulled cover off of shift mechanism and installed washer over shifty shaft return spring as it came off of stud, works great now, thanks Piet,   Cheers
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: MotoJouni on October 13, 2017, 23:35
Nothing actually, but manufactured a tool on my metal lathe for changing valve guides to BMW K100/K75 engines to be overhauled at the moment. Handle section was not machined because there was no little bit thicker bar on stock to that purpose at the moment, and therefore is not made to higher standards required for Laverda tools ;)

Just got it manufactured and wondered if it is also suitable to Laverda triples, didn't thought that earlier to make the same tool to fit if possible. I don't remember dimensions for Laverda triple valve guides, length of the guide and suitable biggest diameter for the tool. But not actually even needed at the moment.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on October 14, 2017, 00:20
Nothing actually, but manufactured a tool on my metal lathe for changing valve guides to BMW K100/K75 engines to be overhauled at the moment. Handle section was not machined because there was no little bit thicker bar on stock to that purpose at the moment, and therefore is not made to higher standards required for Laverda tools ;)

Just got it manufactured and wondered if it is also suitable to Laverda triples, didn't thought that earlier to make the same tool to fit if possible. I don't remember dimensions for Laverda triple valve guides, length of the guide and suitable biggest diameter for the tool. But not actually even needed at the moment.

Can't see from pic, but I made mine (twin guides, similar seal section to triples) so a recessed section fits over the fragile top section where the seals fit - this avoids damaging that thin section when hammering them in. Can also be a sleeve that fits over the std type punch.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: MotoJouni on October 14, 2017, 01:15
Can't see from pic, but I made mine (twin guides, similar seal section to triples) so a recessed section fits over the fragile top section where the seals fit - this avoids damaging that thin section when hammering them in. Can also be a sleeve that fits over the std type punch.
Good point. This tool alone is to take the old ones out. Must take more dimensions when I got some valve guides on hand to make suitable sleeves for hammering new ones in. Earlier we used propane/butane torch to heat up cylinder heads, but that needed a lot of attention. Now I have an electric oven to that purpose.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on October 14, 2017, 01:17
Now I have an electric oven to that purpose.

And you can heat up your pies at the same time  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: MotoJouni on October 14, 2017, 01:18
Yes and to get a good metallic and oily taste to that pie :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: bazzee on October 14, 2017, 06:17
There are instructions on replacing valve guides in laverdapedia.

Cheers,
bazzee
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: MotoJouni on October 14, 2017, 11:48
There are instructions on replacing valve guides in laverdapedia.

Cheers,
bazzee
Thanks, found this document:
www.laverdapedia.com/Valve%20Guide%20replacement.pdf
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Rob on October 14, 2017, 12:59
Key piece of info in Red's opening comment -
Generally not a job that the average home mechanic can carry out, but here follows the method
that we use.

Alternative approach that minimises loss of shim size through recutting seats is to get a set of oversize valves (stem) and ream existing guides
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dave "SPIDER" Holder on October 14, 2017, 14:48
What did I do for my Laverda's today? I started painting the garage walls orange, (I had a tin left over from the house) whilst explaining to my Breganze Triple how it is in its honour and letting the Zane POS know that it would never be painted Orange, because it can never deserve to be treated like its elder cousin.  ;D
 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on October 14, 2017, 18:10
North Devon Coast today , very nice.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on October 14, 2017, 18:11
couple more-
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on October 14, 2017, 18:17
North Devon Coast today , very nice.


Very VERY nice!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on October 14, 2017, 21:19
thanks Jim!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: MotoJouni on October 14, 2017, 23:17
Key piece of info in Red's opening comment -
Generally not a job that the average home mechanic can carry out, but here follows the method
that we use.

:) We have changed valve guides plus some seats if needed around last 50 years to amount of around 1000 engines at least. But not to every kind of engines before. I thought we are going to succeed also this time ;)

Alternative approach that minimises loss of shim size through recutting seats is to get a set of oversize valves (stem) and ream existing guides
I thought oversized stems are better available to engines without separate guides. Harder to get those to BMW K100, at least most of the dealers supply only the standard stem sizes, of course it is possible to manufacture a valve. But the seat must be still machined for a new valve.

This K100 head to be overhauled has quite good valves and seats but worn out guides. The valve stems itself are in good condition. Our method is to change and ream new guides, then a machining shop will machine the old valves and seats, they also grind a littlebit away from the end of the valve if necessary to achieve good shim thicknesses. I also checked that the old valves are straight on a lathe. After these I also inspect the valve seating surfaces using inspection dye, grinding compound is not used. And a lot of other smaller work stages and inspections here between.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jugs_S on October 15, 2017, 00:23
Wielded gussets in Steering head to fix crack and added swing arm doubler plates same as Laverda race bike. Top gusset gos through the frame as one piece

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10144%2FIMG20171014133629_Small.jpg&hash=204ce6b0ffa9b939f1aa9febe2292c5f)
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10144%2FIMG20171014133425_Small.jpg&hash=c5d08532401c4143afea7569fe7e0736)

Frame was checked aligned by triangulation from points on pin through swing arm pivot and steering head.

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10144%2FIMG20171014100817_Small.jpg&hash=c506570265ec1d58a670887ff099038e)

Clean up still to be carried out

Will
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on October 15, 2017, 00:34
Wielded gussets in Steering head to fix crack and added swing arm doubler plates same as Laverda race bike. Top gusset gos through the frame as one piece

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10144%2FIMG20171014133629_Small.jpg&hash=204ce6b0ffa9b939f1aa9febe2292c5f)
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10144%2FIMG20171014133425_Small.jpg&hash=c5d08532401c4143afea7569fe7e0736)

I was just about to write that one of our Sydney guys was going to make up a one piece top gusset ...... then looked at Jugs' profile  :o same Sydney guy, hi Will! Nice work, all those cardboard cutouts worked then eh?

Frame was checked aligned by triangulation from points on pin through swing arm pivot and steering head.

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10144%2FIMG20171014100817_Small.jpg&hash=c506570265ec1d58a670887ff099038e)

Clean up still to be carried out

Will
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: breganzane on October 15, 2017, 01:15
Wielded gussets in Steering head to fix crack

Not trying to be a nitpicker, but the gussets to the horizontal tube are badly placed and create a large stress concentration at the end, and will (ironically) promote cracking.  They taper out, which is good as it gradually increases stiffness, but the end of the gusset is at the most highly stressed part of the tube (in the axis of the gusset) so you will get a concentration there.  Given there are ones top and bottom it is even worse, they are a bit offset at least, but there is a good chance of a crack forming between the ends of top and bottom gusset, right through the horizontal tubes.
The same gussets placed on the outside of the tube and welded along the neutral axis is a significantly better gusset because there is minimal stress in the tube in that axis at that point.  It's a seemingly small detail but is known to make a big difference to future cracking.  This is outlined in frame building books by the likes of Tony Foale, Carroll Smith and John Bradley.  I would cut them off and redo them on the outside.

Info provided with best intentions!   (Lavflag)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on October 15, 2017, 01:47
Not trying to be a nitpicker ...

I was going to say something similar, but I didn't want to nit-pick  :D

But now that Steve has opened the can of worms, I agree with his assessment.

Furthermore, if welded against the outside of the tube, the new gusset above the horizontal tube would align with, and attach to the original steering head gusset, forming a contiguous gusset from upper spine tube, through steering head to lower tube. That's how I did mine anyway. Apologies for the crap photo. Lighting is all wrong, but you can get the general idea. Not saying mine is perfect either, but it's closer to what Steve described.

There's little to be gained by slotting the frame tube and poking the gusset plate through to the other side, because welding separate gussets to the neutral axis both sides of the tube achieves the same structural outcome with a lot less work. The way you've done yours, there's no structural integrity between the upper (original) gusset and the new one. But maybe that's not so important as avoiding stress concentrations.

On the positive side, your welds are neater than mine.  :D

Cheers,
Cam



Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: MotoJouni on October 15, 2017, 16:50
Made a little trip to countryside riding my SFC 1000.
There is quite lot of wet yellow leafs out there.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on October 19, 2017, 13:10
All the amazement expressed by my classic racing gang last season that my bike has 14 racing seasons under it´s wheels made me decide not to push my luck.
New Carrillo rods are on the way from Wolfgang for the genuine SFC crankshaft in my SF2. Apparently racing SFCs were known rod breakers, at the little end, but I heard this for the first time just now. Hopefully I don´t find any bad news when I press it apart. The crank was fitted in 1983 and had I guess around 80000km on the road before becoming a race bike when we moved here to the arctic in 2001. I had converted it to 90 degree in 1998 or thereabouts.
The pistons and bores look fine and there is just the normal scrap of play around the big ends. No carbon and no contact on the squish area so the 1mm clearance is on the money too. Forged pistons were fitted in 2010 after they had been used in the road bike for a few years to check them out.
A bit for me to do this winter.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverda SF on October 20, 2017, 21:19
Tony bought my SF back in mid August and he still hasn't picked it up - Driving me crazy!!!!!!!

All he needs is a 1/2 ton Trekking about a couple 1000 miles before the snow flies and a couple of days off.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Admin on October 22, 2017, 17:35
If you've come to this thread looking for Carlos' (carlitox33) 1200 troubleshooting, I've split (most of) those posts out into a new thread '1981 1200 in Spain' which you can find in the Technical section - link below

http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,97048.0.html (http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,97048.0.html)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: carlitox33 on October 23, 2017, 13:48
If you've come to this thread looking for Carlos' (carlitox33) 1200 troubleshooting, I've split (most of) those posts out into a new thread '1981 1200 in Spain' which you can find in the Technical section - link below

http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,97048.0.html (http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,97048.0.html)

Thank you so much! I felt I was hijacking away this thread! Regards!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on October 26, 2017, 17:58
Just a couple of little jobs done today........fitted a UK headlamp glass and a much improved sidelight bulb (20 Watt Halogen) as seen recommended on here (thank you forum (bigthumb).......So now there should be no more issues down at the m.o.t bay and whosoever can see me coming.......Just in case a bright orange fairing is not illuminating enough  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Eurocycleguy on October 27, 2017, 03:57
Received my forty year old Laverda Panniers. ;D ;D ;D
Trial fitting them to my 1974 GT.  :(
Need to figure out mods to rear turn signals to make them compatible with Panniers. ???
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: angonemoto on October 28, 2017, 18:30
Ratfarts.
Last weekend was glorious for an October so I ran out on both 750s, tickled pink that the weather was so nice I decided not to put them up for the winter in my Dad's heated and spacious garage.
Turns out that was dumb.
I headed out on the GT first this morning to said heated garage only to be greeted by rain which turned to sleet which made the pavement really slippery, so I returned to my garage, bike all slopped up and a bit less than clean. Black is a pretty bike color but it gets dingy quick. As I rolled her back to her spot I grabbed the far side petcock and came up with a trickle of gas, as that wretched Araldite repair had finally given up. I am thinking the recent temperature fluctuations have played with the steel and it finally cycled itself free from the patch. So, I drained the tank and put it up on the shelf. Thankfully Mr. IAG has a tank that I'm going to take off his hands and have it and the side covers repainted.

But I also want to repair this one so now I need to send said tank out for a welding. Any thoughts on who does that job in the USA, preferably near Chicago?

The party's over I guess. Time to get the snowtires on the 4x4. Cheers to you all.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on October 28, 2017, 18:58
300 km of small roads on the SF2.
Nearing 3000 km since mid August.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: levo on October 29, 2017, 01:39
My very very bent RGS arrived back in my shed on Friday. O boy it is going to be a big job. Just about everything except the motor is fucked. Ah well seeing as I am now officially a pensioner I should have it back on the road in about a week....................................................& 3 years time. Best get at it times awasting.


                                                                                                                                   Levo
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on October 29, 2017, 01:11
Good luck with the big job Levo. Yesterday I did a day at Bretts shed to sort mine out for the Tassie trip. Thanks again Brett. First, a valve check, no movement since the initial adjustment from Reds rebuild a couple of years ago, rock solid, no marks on the F1 cams, rock solid, thanks Red.The rocker box gasket was swopped for the MUCH thicker one I bought from Phil Todd. Then a carb sink, one was slightly out. And then an Ignition curve adjustment, the bike sounds fantastic now. And then an odd reading was found on the PC the advance map is adjusted with, bearly minimum battery charging. It would just get to 12.4 with a rev and well below with the lights on, O Dear. After some fiddling, it seems one of the yellow wires to the Regulator was loose. With a pry on its tongue and a solid push, it was back to 13 and a bit. Dodged a bullet there. Next, it was a brake bleed and fluid change, out came the almost Chocolate brown fluid and a much better lever feel returned. The bike was just so nice riding home.Considerably fewer vibes in the pegs and smooth as.
It takes years of spanner fiddling to get the talent to make a well-running bike suddenly feel hugely better.
Thanks again Brett, you're a real asset to my little Laverda world.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LaverdaIan on October 29, 2017, 03:00
Started work on 'Freddie Formula'.. young Monty very happy to meet his cousin, but ooh, not so shiny.. ;)

So, all the flash bits off, and time for the polisher, leak down tests, cam chain check, all fluids to be done.. and man, those carbs have not seen fuel for quite a while. New cables required, and that drive chain.. :o All part of the process.. :P

We will get there my lads and I.. but it will be a walk..

As Lou Reed once said.. Just a perfect day..

 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: drikko on October 29, 2017, 05:10
My very very bent RGS arrived back in my shed on Friday. O boy it is going to be a big job. Just about everything except the motor is fucked. Ah well seeing as I am now officially a pensioner I should have it back on the road in about a week....................................................& 3 years time. Best get at it times awasting.


                                                                                                                                   Levo

Was tidying up today, found that clutch/brake lever! Will bring it to the next meeting if you need it.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on October 29, 2017, 08:59
Glad you"re all up and running Levo ,but the bike, is it personal attachment  or won"t it be as much (or more) as getting another RGS .I trust you got insurance paid out.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on October 29, 2017, 11:39
My very very bent RGS arrived back in my shed on Friday. O boy it is going to be a big job. Just about everything except the motor is fucked. Ah well seeing as I am now officially a pensioner I should have it back on the road in about a week....................................................& 3 years time. Best get at it times awasting.
                                                                                                        Levo

I've got a headlight if you need one - free to you. Anyone else wants it it isn't available.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on October 29, 2017, 22:42
I trust you got insurance paid out.

Very much doubt there was any insurance payout.

Let us know what parts you need Levo. You never know what RGS bits might be lying around in people's sheds surplus to their requirements.

Cheers,
Cam
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on October 29, 2017, 22:50
I've got a headlight if you need one - free to you. Anyone else wants it it isn't available.

Levo will be chasing the rectangular RGS light Davo, not the Bosch round version unless he is going to build a naked special which would probably be cheaper
something like Smiddy's naked RGS in Scotland, that is a neat looking 120



Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on October 30, 2017, 01:08
Levo will be chasing the rectangular RGS light Davo, not the Bosch round version unless he is going to build a naked special which would probably be cheaper
something like Smiddy's naked RGS in Scotland, that is a neat looking 120

Yep, it is a square RGS headlight I bought from Mal Cox as it is identical to the one in my Le Mans. Bought it as a spare seeing as how LH drive lights are hard to find.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on October 30, 2017, 03:04
With this 10 day 4500k Tassie ride coming up soon there is lots of talk about having tyres that will last the whole trip. As I don't keep records I couldn't remember when or how many ks ago I fitted the rear tyre. So we measured its tread depth and it is between 5 and 4.8mm. Today I visited the local bike shop and measured a new tyre the same as mine and that was 6mm. So it appears mine with 1mm gone it has warn approx 15% so if you get 5000ks or hopefully more out of a new tyre that leaves me with
4250ks left conservatively speaking and with most of Tassie on windy roads that hopefully with work the tyre edges and get me home with just enough tread, fingers crossed. Or am I overthinking this as usual? Anyone know how many ks they have got out of a Pirreli Sports Demon rear tyre? Bike shop said 6 to 8ks but that seems more than I get, not sure though.


Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: levo on October 30, 2017, 03:51
Shit Vince to me it's a no brainer. Start with a brand new tyre .Then you can do the ride & not have to worry about wear. After all you are going to have to replace the old tyre anyway so  do it now & put the old one back on when you get home. Sure beats fucking up on the ride [fuck I'm pissed I'm not coming with you, that pesky commodore really fucked up my plans]  As to tyres if you are running standard to one size over try michelin pilot active giving almost twice the mileage as demons & grip just as well, just ask Bret. Most of the boys up here are running them on their Lavs & are very happy, their cheaper too.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on October 30, 2017, 04:08
Yes, they rave about those Michelin pilot active, just about everyone has them now. Just to add one more thing. I have been searching for a particular tyre for the past 18 months, Bridgestone makes them but they are not Imported to Oz. I have asked the distributor if he could bring a few in and he has been trying but the factory hasn't sent any. I just head last week the latest models, was T30 now T31 is in the container in my oddball size 140 and will arrive the week we get back.
So if I did buy a new Demon its kind of a waste of a tyre.Like I said I am overthinking this. My best guess is I have a 1000ks on this tyre so fingers crossed it will do the 4000 for the trip. I hope. The bike shop said 6 to 8000ks. Farrk.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on October 30, 2017, 05:15
Vince don't bugger a new tire on the Hume grind off a few more Kms getting down into Tassie and then fit a new tire in Hobart or Launceston they do have bike shops there you know and if you have a special requirement pre order it now so its at the shop ready for you in a few weeks.
Cam will be able to let you know where the best tire are.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on October 30, 2017, 05:36
That's been suggested as well Maurice, BTW we are not going to or back via the Hwy of Doom, Hume Hwy. We have better options lined up, that's most of us I hear. My major thing is NOT stuffing the blokes around with tyre needs on the trip. I don't do stuffing others around on trips if humanly possible, some love doing it but definitely not me. I gear up well before start time if I can and wait under a tree in the shade.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on October 30, 2017, 05:55
Vince don't bugger a new tire on the Hume grind off a few more Kms getting down into Tassie and then fit a new tire in Hobart or Launceston they do have bike shops there you know and if you have a special requirement pre order it now so its at the shop ready for you in a few weeks.


Get yersel' a nice fat TT100 on it: you know it makes sense... ;D ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: blab on October 30, 2017, 06:01
Take a new tyre with you Vince, wear it over your head and one shoulder. Change it on the ferry on the way over. No interuption to anyone.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on October 30, 2017, 06:17

So if I did buy a new Demon its kind of a waste of a tyre.Like I said I am overthinking this. My best guess is I have a 1000ks on this tyre so fingers crossed it will do the 4000 for the trip. I hope. The bike shop said 6 to 8000ks. Farrk.
:o I think the pertinent info is you saying it only has 1,000kms on it so presumably it has only been put on recently. Don't see the sense in changing a fairly new tyre, should easily do another 4,500kms - presume you fellows aren't racing all the way................ (Touring kms lot easier on the tyre than weekend blasts through the rev range)

(Yeh, I know, you're all gonna say you only ever travel in excess of 200kph ::)  :P)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on October 30, 2017, 06:30
Some of The Snowy is kinds fast, and can be outside my comfort zone. I like to see what ahead before I open it up but I expect lots and lots of 35kph linked bends. That's the plan I hope.Wear it out on the sides.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on November 03, 2017, 10:06
It will be well fucked by the time you get back Vince, 6/8k out of a sport demon is well let's just call it bullshit, 5 is it for the rear, less  for the front , but they will get you home and then you can put some Dunlop gp300s on it... I will be inspecting all bikes at broadford for chicken strips....
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on November 06, 2017, 10:09
Nearly a case of 'what did your Laverda do to you'.

I found a false neutral on my SF as I was hooooning along and changing down into a known bend yesterday afternoon. The kinda bend you know well and can max it for speed & lean and 'style'. Where you fell like Mr. Rossi as you exit. No hook up gave the bike and me no sense of direction at all. Damn near shit myself and ended up on the other side of the road, front wheel kissing the opposite kerb. If anything had been coming the other way it would have been a head on.

So job #176 on the SF's fix list is to make the box and its change as good as it can be. I'll leave it until the salt is down and spanner time kicks in.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on November 06, 2017, 10:31
you should have done it clutchless Hag
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on November 06, 2017, 11:11
Nearly a case of 'what did your Laverda do to you'.

I found a false neutral on my SF as I was hooooning along and changing down into a known bend yesterday afternoon. The kinda bend you know well and can max it for speed & lean and 'style'. Where you fell like Mr. Rossi as you exit. No hook up gave the bike and me no sense of direction at all. Damn near shit myself and ended up on the other side of the road, front wheel kissing the opposite kerb. If anything had been coming the other way it would have been a head on.

So job #176 on the SF's fix list is to make the box and its change as good as it can be. I'll leave it until the salt is down and spanner time kicks in.

Paul

Spoilt by the Suzuki 'box?
Buy a bigger boot and shift it like you mean it!

piet ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on November 06, 2017, 11:39
I'll try that Clem. I'll probably spray the cogs over the road at that speed. This was the 2nd near miss of the day, first one was caused by the wibbling backside of a lycra clad jogging lovley and a stationary car. I was concentrating, but on the wrong thing as it turns out.

You are right Piet, I think I may well have pussied that change. Realised early on not to tickle it, but to boss it. When I got the bike I would get falsies all the time. Habit. Riding the SF is a real blast from the past IMHO. Everything (apart from the general sweet handling) is a world away, even from my Jota, which admittedly has many many years of care and cash aimed at precise setup.

First SF mod is to isolate the seat somehow from the vibes. It's setting off a ringing in my ears. I'll blame that for my incompetent riding.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on November 06, 2017, 12:24
Glad you survived that Paul - no fun diving in with no engine braking - Fucks up the stability good and proper and can enforce heavy drinking

 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 06, 2017, 12:39
There should be 4 rubber bungs on the base of the seat if its the same as my 3c that should line up with the frame, funny you should be looking at this as I have drilled out the rear frame mount and squeezed a rubber grommet for the bolt to pass through for the same anti vib thing as well. Don't have a solution for the front flat blade seat mounts. I do use an Air Hawk as that helps as well as padded pushy shorts on long days.Thats 50/ 50 vib control and arse comfort. That's all there for the 10 day ride we have coming up starting next weekend.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on November 07, 2017, 00:51
What happened to this thread? All posts for August, September and October are missing.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: MotoJouni on November 07, 2017, 02:34
What happened to this thread? All posts for August, September and October are missing.

It was splitted and someone posted to this old thread.
The new one is this one:
http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,97052.0.html

Some other forums add a running number or some kind of date to the title when threads are splitted.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Admin on November 08, 2017, 00:19
Cam - I split these long running threads to ease the load on the server. Sadly Hag managed to dig up the old end.   ::)
I'll have a go and reattach these recent posts to the current thread....
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on November 08, 2017, 10:09
Ooops, sorry, no idea how I did that. Feel free to delete my posts if it helps - nothing important, just chat.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on November 08, 2017, 15:08
Went to the doctors'

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Rob on November 08, 2017, 17:38
Quote
nothing important, just chat.

I beg to differ Hag! Just glad that your near death experience was just that.  Thread now sorted...carry on!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on November 25, 2017, 16:08
Discovered why my SF takes ages to pick back up after running dry and moving to reserve fuel tap - reserve fuel route partially filled with flaking tank sealant. Bugger.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4564/37747339005_5f45ba97f3.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4559/38635057481_a520aa7c0c.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4566/26858887569_1deb8147f2.jpg)
In with some dry-walls. A 1 minute shake got these flakes out - much more to come.....
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4539/26860592349_06c59af6fa.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on November 25, 2017, 21:55
It's stories like that which make me think tank liners don't necessarily all live up to the manufacturer's claims.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 25, 2017, 23:34
I Cremed a tank years ago, what a bloody nightmare. It ended with the bottom of the tank cut out to get the huge lump of loose creme out and then the rust blasted.
I had blocked taps as well, Triumph tank.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: lawrence on November 25, 2017, 23:53
If you use Caswell's and if you follow the directions to the letter, all will be well.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on November 26, 2017, 04:40
Washed all the rubber brake dust and crap off the racebike and packed her up for the end of the racing season.
At least this is one of my Laverda's that did get a bit of use this year!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: bevelman on November 26, 2017, 06:26
did the same yesdy mo-then i got pissed with her
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on November 26, 2017, 14:52
I lined the tank on TOG (a recessed badged Jota tank painted in TS livery) 5 years ago with "Slosh" which I bought from the AJS/Matchless owners club, the tank was soaked in DE-OXc for a fortnight, with plasticine covering the only known pinhole. then the tank was emptied, and dried using compressed air, then left on the hot water tank for a couple of days to dry totally. Slosh installed  and "slooshed" all around as directed, using old fuel taps  (no filters no standpipes) to close the holes. and then left for another fortnight, all has been good since then with no sign of flaking or blocking lines/ filters of anything
BUT
another pinhole (opposite side of the tank, to the first) sprung a leak overnight while in Spain, very quickly repaired on site with chemical metal and allowed me to continue for another fortnight, and still remains today 10 weeks later, cant even be seen

so what am I saying here? it seems to me that slosh is a very good product works well and adheres well, but it may not prevent further pinholes, unless I failed to coat a small internal area, which I seriously doubt, but is possible, I wont cut out the bottom of the tank and let in new metal, until I am going to repaint it.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on November 28, 2017, 00:05
Had previously painted my chain guard black, but seeing all the shiny bikes on here thought I'd join the polishers and have it re chromed.  Also had a small corner section near one mounting hole which previously was broken repaired.
Just got it back, all looking very flash..........
 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on November 28, 2017, 16:55
Wheeled it out of the garage.
Took off the old koni shocks and replaced with new maxton twinshocks.
Determined that the securing nut on the rhs shock at the bottom was fouling against the nuts on the sprocket carrier. Probably because I reinstalled washers in a different configuration?
Anyway, promptly dropped the bike (thankfully poffers crash bars were still on it)
Lamented my now broken clutch lever and took a moment to reconsider my life.
Replaced the voxbells with new ones and marvelled at the mismatched fixings applied to the bike over the years.

Tried to sound the new horns. Interesting thunking noise from both.
Seems like optimate died at some point in the last 3 months.
Enough juice for the neutral light but otherwise seemingly flat as a pancake.
Ordered a new odyssey battery...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: laverdas on November 28, 2017, 16:59
you may know but its a slim nut on the rhs lower shock mount
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on November 28, 2017, 17:07
you may know but its a slim nut on the rhs lower shock mount

I love slim nuts.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on November 28, 2017, 17:08
 :o :o 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on November 28, 2017, 18:48
you may know but its a slim nut on the rhs lower shock mount

I retained the one that was there before. It wasn't fouling the carrier when the konis were installed but was after. Go figure!

Temporary fix is to use a standard nut with some thread lock until I can find one of those lovely slim nuts
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on November 28, 2017, 22:56
... until I can find one of those lovely slim nuts

Get a fat nut and put it on a diet.

(or you could just grind it down a bit)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: laverdas on November 28, 2017, 23:18

Get a fat nut and put it on a diet (banghead)
or just do it properly
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverda SF on November 29, 2017, 05:44
Agreed - Every Nut, Washer and Bolt is special on your Laverda and torqued to your specs ;o)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on November 29, 2017, 08:17
Agreed - Every Nut, Washer and Bolt is special on your Laverda and torqued to your specs ;o)

After 40 years a lot of them do seem... unique  ???
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on November 29, 2017, 17:26
New Odyssey battery in the bike. New voxbells honk as desired but whilst the engine turns over it doesn't fire! Spark plug inspection tomorrow.

Also, front wheel off for a Speedo drive replacement.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on December 04, 2017, 00:46
Day on Track with the young Bloke  8)

Shredding some rubber alongside Cam Donald on the Horner Vincent  :o :o

Jota still does it for me  ;) But boy that tt 500 has some poke  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on December 04, 2017, 08:25
Day on Track with the young Bloke  8)

Shredding some rubber alongside Cam Donald on the Horner Vincent  :o :o

Jota still does it for me  ;) But boy that tt 500 has some poke  :D
Bewdy looks like another BEARs competitor stepping up
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 06, 2017, 08:42
Not today, but heard from Red my motor might be ready soon.  :D
How cool  8), I might give Santa a little peck on the cheek .......  :o don't even think about it Red, grow your beard a little more first!

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on December 06, 2017, 11:35
Not today, but heard from Red my motor might be ready soon.  :D
How cool  8), I might give Santa a little peck on the cheek .......  :o don't even think about it Red, grow your beard a little more first!

had a number 3 through the beard only 2 days ago so believe you are safe
machining your crank web this weekend

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on December 06, 2017, 11:38
did some work on a triple engine today, gives you a nice warm feeling working on a well maintained engine  :o
in a way this was the best bit we found inside, did not take a photo of the welded up piston crown filling a previous hole or the worn out cam lobes and numerous other issues

poor bloody engine, was still running though we believe, no signs of seizing

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4545/24998817178_d23893b530_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E64tph)well serviced engine (https://flic.kr/p/E64tph)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on December 06, 2017, 13:00
Fark!
Is that sludge or old bits of silicone?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on December 06, 2017, 14:55
Fark!
Is that sludge or old bits of silicone?
Looks like a lot of both, that is outright abuse and the previous owner should be drawn and quartered!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on December 06, 2017, 15:14
Jeez! Any pics of whats in the actual sludge traps?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 06, 2017, 16:39
waste of good caviar for that shot Red ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AJ on December 06, 2017, 19:58
Not today, but heard from Red my motor might be ready soon.  :D
How cool  8), I might give Santa a little peck on the cheek .......  :o don't even think about it Red, grow your beard a little more first!
Hey Chris did you find out what caused the problems with your motor? I saw the bike and met you at "not the Barry" in March.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 06, 2017, 23:47
Hey Chris did you find out what caused the problems with your motor? I saw the bike and met you at "not the Barry" in March.

Pistons nipped up. Reason unresolved. Red has had a batch of new ones made by Ross, that should sort it out.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on December 06, 2017, 23:57
did some work on a triple engine today, gives you a nice warm feeling working on a well maintained engine  :o
in a way this was the best bit we found inside, did not take a photo of the welded up piston crown filling a previous hole or the worn out cam lobes and numerous other issues

poor bloody engine, was still running though we believe, no signs of seizing

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4545/24998817178_d23893b530_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E64tph)well serviced engine (https://flic.kr/p/E64tph)
Faarkk!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 07, 2017, 00:47
 :o What looks like a bit of MIG wire stuck to the mesh mush, surely the piston hole wasn't welded up while still in the barrel?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on December 07, 2017, 02:49
:o What looks like a bit of MIG wire stuck to the mesh mush, surely the piston hole wasn't welded up while still in the barrel?
  Chris you know they did, fucking morons!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: markQLD on December 09, 2017, 10:32
Fired up Miss J and rode in to the Ricondi grand opening day of their new store
https://www.ricondi.com.au/
https://www.facebook.com/ricondi/
Mr Ricondi, Smarty, races #86

Ya gotta support ya mates and a handful of Lav's, race and road, were there.
Sweetas looks excited and indicates his pick
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10581%2FIMG_3935_01.JPG&hash=5a64ca9d72cef9fb6ec602487711771e)
In the background are a few of the late great Greg Hansford's Kawasaki factory race bikes. & today they still look bloody evil
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on December 09, 2017, 16:29
Great shop, is it just Leathers he sells there?
#22 was Murray Sayle so Smarty has the whole team covered, it was unreal watching those guys race.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on December 09, 2017, 16:41
I spent 10 Easters watch the Bathurst racers and Greg was the fastest down the mountain I saw, he was on the gas where everybody else was braking.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: markQLD on December 09, 2017, 21:52
Great shop, is it just Leathers he sells there?
reckon Ricondi's core product is their custom design & fit race suits, which are second to none.
https://www.ricondi.com.au/products/custom-design-custom-fit-for-men-and-women-racing-series-suits-be-yourself
These days, it's great to see a lot of the local racers grid up with most wearing Ricondi suits.
Now with the shop, they can offer a lot of other riding gear available, as shown on website.

#22 was Murray Sayle so Smarty has the whole team covered, it was unreal watching those guys race.
Yeah, Lakeside, in the late '70's, I was also there on the hill.  Hansford, Sayle & Doyle, what a team!
http://www.deejay51.com/lakeside.htm
& 'twas good to be young ay!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: drikko on December 10, 2017, 06:46
Sweetas looks excited and indicates his pick

You spelled prick wrong.....
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: blab on December 10, 2017, 07:00
And he's a   :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on December 10, 2017, 09:51
Got this home at last.
The machine of an old friend who unfortunately can't ride any more. Been after him for years.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on December 10, 2017, 09:58
Laverda 3C ......still lovely after all these years  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 10, 2017, 10:13
yes lovely  ;) ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on December 10, 2017, 10:32
got TOG out of the workshop yesterday for a quick blat, and intending on degreasing, cleaning, washing, pressure wash etc, but she wouldn't start!, now she never does that not even if the battery is tired and the cranking rate worryingly slow, but yesterday? she wouldn't go, she popped a few times, stuttered for a second or three then nothing, as the battery was giving out, I sussed it! when last returning home she had gone onto reserve! and I was starting her on main, oh well, a short trip out, put in a few litres and soon returned home, not properly dressed and it was cold, too cold in fact to contemplate the washing, which I need to do, because she is going onto the ramp for a few servicing type bits and a thorough polish, cant do either of those with her looking grubby.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on December 10, 2017, 18:23
Great news Clem. Fuel is good. It's quite a nice realisation isn't it when you relaise nothing is wrong and it was just the organic dimwit in the seat causing the issues. Happens to me a lot.

I spent the day in the cave, as there are 10 inches of show outside. Fashioning a bracket for an experimental trial of MP08 coils on my SF (yes, I know the orig Bosch coils are excellent, just wanted to see if this was better).
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4536/27183003489_8c15b3f6aa.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 10, 2017, 23:29
Nice work. Do the gland nuts fit on still?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on December 11, 2017, 00:18
Glands and nuts? Jeez Chris. You have a one track mind - a dirt track  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 11, 2017, 00:47
Glands and nuts? Jeez Chris. You have a one track mind - a dirt track  ;D

 ::) You're a dirty boy Cam ............... it's not where I was 'heading'.  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on December 11, 2017, 08:33
got TOG out of the workshop yesterday for a quick blat, and intending on degreasing, cleaning, washing, pressure wash etc, but she wouldn't start!, now she never does that not even if the battery is tired and the cranking rate worryingly slow, but yesterday? she wouldn't go, she popped a few times, stuttered for a second or three then nothing, as the battery was giving out, I sussed it! when last returning home she had gone onto reserve! and I was starting her on main, oh well, a short trip out, put in a few litres and soon returned home, not properly dressed and it was cold, too cold in fact to contemplate the washing, which I need to do, because she is going onto the ramp for a few servicing type bits and a thorough polish, cant do either of those with her looking grubby.
CLEM
Clem
Beat yourself up not, been there done that, bet most would fess up to having been blindsided by this... more a phenomenon these days seems to be what with modern fuels which seem to "disappear out of the bowls" more quicker than in the past. 
Better you get to cleaning............
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on December 11, 2017, 11:33
Had a customer once come back after picking his bike up, furiously raving and ranting, we were the worst shithead workshop in the world as his bike broke down a few miles away. We picked it up and it had of course Clem´s problem. To his credit when the guy came in the next day to get it he ate his humble pie and was just as apologetic as he had been furious. The other classic is bikes stranded with the kill switch off.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 16, 2017, 16:32
V5C arrived finally for 1580 , 200mm headlamp 3C, Early Christmas.  :D :D :D

Big thanks to  Scott, Maurice and Gert, Scrumpy and Alan for the extra information and invaluable help!, pics will follow before and after some little jobbies.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on December 16, 2017, 20:35
You are going to enjoy that 3C Shaun not the most powerful bike but such a delight to ride.
Yesterday Deb and I took off on my Orphan red 3C and burnt a couple of tanks of fuel going to the Victoria club christmas party 26 degrees perfect riding weather and that old bike is such a ripping machine, I leaned over my shoulder and asked my lovely passenger if she knew how old this bike was and she suggested maybe 25 years when I replied 43 years the response was one of quite suprise, that was just the excuse for me to twist that throttle harder
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 16, 2017, 20:46
Thanks Maurice ,can"t wait!, I just love it"s lines too, classic, simple, perfection.   btw   (if i told Helen how old I was, she "d say is that all you sure?........ :D :D)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 19, 2017, 02:59
Picked up a canvas poster/picture I had made of the 880SFCK ............... now where to hang it?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on December 19, 2017, 10:39
Thanks Maurice ,can"t wait!, I just love it"s lines too, classic, simple, perfection.   btw   (if i told Helen how old I was, she "d say is that all you sure?........ :D :D)


 :)
I wouldn't call a 230 kg behemoth, DOHC 4 stroke triple with twin discs, simple.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 19, 2017, 10:56
Well I just looked at my Saab. ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on December 19, 2017, 11:08
I wouldn't call a 230 kg behemoth, DOHC 4 stroke triple with twin discs, simple.

It was the lines of the bike he was talking about.
Anyway, just about as simple as your 220kg SOHC twin.  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: blab on December 19, 2017, 11:30
The twin weighs 220 ? Why would you bother.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on December 19, 2017, 13:37
Well I just looked at my Saab. ;)
Figures...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on December 19, 2017, 15:29
It was the lines of the bike he was talking about.
Anyway, just about as simple as your 220kg SOHC twin.  ;D

Yes.
A lot less top heavy though.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 19, 2017, 16:12
  ;)gay boots
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on December 19, 2017, 16:39
  ;)gay boots

No, Michelin.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 19, 2017, 17:09
3C Arrived today, just a few original parts already  to fit,and colour change
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on December 19, 2017, 17:57
started to sort out the stainless silencers on TOG, they were not new when "obtained" by me from a wreck at Ralphs, the bike had been down on both sides and they were scratched underneath, where not visible and on the tail end where I polished the marks out, that was about 20 years ago, and now I find that the inlet stubs have become (very strangely) thin and unusable, potentially a problem, to the point where the clamps were covering the "thinness" so its time for a repair, I wonder how that erosion took place?
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Gravelroad on December 19, 2017, 19:47
3C Arrived today, just a few original parts already  to fit,and colour change

Welcome to the club, Shaun, nice one. These early birds are such fine rides. Just built for purpose, totally lacking any kind of BS added just for looking fancy. You gonna love it. 8)

@Clem: Think it's small movements from thermal cycling and vibration, cracking up the protective oxide layer of the stainless steel at the clamping points over and over again, causing constant material loss.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 19, 2017, 20:10
Welcome to the club, Shaun, nice one. These early birds are such fine rides. Just built for purpose, totally lacking any kind of BS added just for looking fancy. You gonna love it. 8)

Thank you, spot on ,I really am ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on December 19, 2017, 22:02
3C Arrived today, just a few original parts already  to fit,and colour change
Now how about a larger picture of that great big headlamp and twin webb crankcases ahh so sweet.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 19, 2017, 22:16
Hey Lemon
How much did you pay for the non oil leaking 3C?
I'd be curious to compare it (price wise) to the, small headlight oiler on Ebay here at the moment.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 20, 2017, 09:11
will do Maurice.!!

Chris ,

Sold the TS and thought better put it in a bike to keep it safe, so I bought a 1970 V7 Special in Italy for 6K in April, the 3C was on for under 12K with a local dealer,they offered me 9K for the Guzzi and after some negotiation a small cash settlement in their favour.

Good deal ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on December 20, 2017, 22:02
@Clem: Think it's small movements from thermal cycling and vibration, cracking up the protective oxide layer of the stainless steel at the clamping points over and over again, causing constant material loss.

If the collector is mild steel and the stubs are stainless then the contact area of the stainless will gradually rot away through Galvanic action...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: walkermarra on December 20, 2017, 23:04
Clem, forgive my ignorance what model is TOG, I've a stainless silencer for a 120, purchased from Coxie about 15 years ago I'll not use it again, yours for postage if it is the correct fit   
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on December 21, 2017, 01:21
Hey Clem

Yeah, stainless may not stain with rust, but it'll still corrode given the right conditions. An exhaust system is a pretty hostile environment for any metal. Heat cycles, moisture, acidity, etc.

As Andy says, you probably have some galvanic corrosion going on. But you don't necessarily need dissimilar metals. Galvanic action can also occur in similar metals (or even in different areas of the same piece of metal) by virtue of dissimilar conditions. Variations in oxygen levels due to one part being exposed and another part being covered by a clamp or inside another pipe, such as a slip-on joint, can give rise to an electrical potential between the two areas. The anode that gets eaten away is the part that's covered up, so the system can look OK from the outside while it's being eaten away from the inside. It's often referred to as crevice corrosion.

Make your exhaust system from something non-metallic, like terracotta pipe, and you'll be fine.  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 21, 2017, 08:55
 "It's often referred to as crevice corrosion". :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on December 21, 2017, 10:34
nice one cam, terracotta it is then.
all parts are stainless, collector, silencers and clamps, the pipes I may have used (years ago) with a steel collector, but I cant actually recall, and they were not new when given to me 20+ years ago, I also add a smear of copperslip between the joints to aid disassembly, might that have helped the galvanic reaction?.

Its not really of any worry, since I am replacing the rotten bit with tube of 1.5mm thickness, which is heavier than stock (what was on the shelf) OD is correct ID is .5mm smaller,and the unrepaired silencers have lasted 20+ years so the repaired ones might make 30 if I use the bike as heavily, which I wont, anyway, by then I will be 95

CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: SimonR501 on December 21, 2017, 16:02
Make your exhaust system from something non-metallic, like terracotta pipe, and you'll be fine.  ;D

Ok for 'Pottering' along but no good if you give it the beans  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 21, 2017, 18:55

Make your exhaust system from something non-metallic, like terracotta pipe, and you'll be fine.  ;D

Just don't dig up your neighbors front yard to get the terracotta pipe, you could end up in the shit and get sewered.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: cbertozz on December 22, 2017, 20:07
Sat on it for the first time in almost 3 months after it went away to have some race prep.

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Fdisplayimage.php%3Fpid%3D4203%26amp%3Bfullsize%3D1&hash=6768f7420f31d07916a3b7c63b5b6d61)

Colour is growing on me
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on December 23, 2017, 12:11
Installed a set of these Progressive springs into the 750  8)

20mm  preload bush (conduit) 200ml of 10w , man what a difference through the bars  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 26, 2017, 10:57
pics for Maurice. ;)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on December 26, 2017, 11:56
35 0r 38mm forks? ???
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: blab on December 26, 2017, 12:01
Rare square M/C
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on December 26, 2017, 14:43
polished up the RHS side panel and fixed a new "Mirage" badge where the previous fibreglass copy had fallen off in Spain, the new one was from Badge Replica's (AUS) and is indistinguishable from original, did they make them for moto Laverda in the first place?

Also fitted a nice new/used and mirror polished alternator cover where the old one was already a bit dinged and cracked but was finished off in a parking shunt on gravel when near Limoges (F) earlier in the summer.

That has used up my stocks of good used covers so I need a few more two at least maybe more, all the ones I have dinged and good are genuine factory parts and fit, a few years ago pattern ones were horrendously bad, with the outer diameter being about 3mm to big, leaving an ugly step, where it meets the inner alt cover, rubbing internally of the alternator nut and lock washer and the Laverda logo was horrible as well. So where today as we slide into 2018 can I buy the item, in very original form, but from aftermarket suppliers, I am assuming that factory ones are no longer available?
CLEM
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on January 01, 2018, 00:23
Haven't done anything to my Laverda today. Instead of watching Sydney and Melbourne banging on about who had the biggest and best NYE fireworks, I tuned into the French news on SBS (multicultural TV channel here in Aus) and had the privilege watch of watching Emmanuel Macron's address to the Republic of France. Wish we had statesmen of the standing here in Australia.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: martymoose on January 01, 2018, 00:49
Right on terry the French do politics very well, liberty, equality, fraternity.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 01, 2018, 01:32
Except for when the mob tried it, early on was a great example of what not to do. Being picky now.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on January 01, 2018, 02:33
Same as yesterday book ended the New Year, took the Cico out on the water yesterday found a Hayabusa  so had a little fun and today took the 3C for a run out the Putty and clocked over 30000mile stone. .
Bugger all traffic hardly even any bikes out there... found one British rider ........then bumped into one of Marties mates on a chook chaser thingy today told me he had been out on his Ducati over xmas so not sure why he would want to be chook chasing today on the Putty.

(https://i.cubeupload.com/TQEniO.jpg)

(https://i.cubeupload.com/gmyXeh.jpg)

(https://i.cubeupload.com/MzvGIa.jpg)

(https://i.cubeupload.com/qUpdel.jpg)

(https://i.cubeupload.com/WvpHmp.jpg)

(https://i.cubeupload.com/Igu7fj.jpg)

(https://i.cubeupload.com/41zYXD.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 01, 2018, 05:10
Thought it was time to go back to the solo seat, 5-minute job as its been on before. 2 days later its back on, tried to fit an anti vib mount on the rear and it keeps coming out so I arildited the steel sleeve into the rubber bush.It still kept snagging and coming out. It then took a days worth of dramaling the homemade catch to work, couldn't see where it was snagging but in the end, it's now fitting fine.Simple thing fitting a seat, NOT.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on January 01, 2018, 07:03
Yep, I love those 2 minute jobs that end up taking a week. Chewed up a drive belt on the mower 2 weeks ago. Bought a new belt. Easy fit, takes about 10 minutes. Dropped the deck to it's lowest setting and then found that the idler puller was fucked and that was what chewed out the belt. So back to the dealer, new pulley obtained. Have to remove the deck from the mower to fit the pulley so compressor on and rattle gun at the ready. Lost air pressure in the rattle gun and found that the compressor had blown the short hose between the tank and the filter/regulator. So hand tools to fix the mower and then off to the compressor dealer to have a new hose made up. And the Laverda, got the forks sorted but thanks to everything else haven't had time to fit them to the bike.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on January 01, 2018, 10:05
That smoke orange looks the dog danglies Brett - could that Beeza be a 441 Victa - in the good old days we had four stroke scrambling on the TV quite regularly on a Suturday afternoon - they were hard people - it's where Murray Walker cut his teeth on commentary ( an English Ritchie Benaud)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on January 01, 2018, 10:21
it's where Murray Walker cut his teeth on commentary ( an English Ritchie Benaud)


Ah.. no! Murray Walker is a complete wally...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on January 01, 2018, 12:37
For car racing yes but he was a bike racer in his youth and commentated on the TT - i met him at the Goodwood revival  incidentally my favourite Australian-  Troy Corsa - in the relaxed atmosphere of no pressure both were a fascinating listen and wer quite happy to spin the breeze
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on January 03, 2018, 09:50
Didnt do a thing with any of mine as was working  but when I pulled in from work driving a flash LDV, noted that I did have a couple of  esteemed chaps from up North had dropped in and there was a Laverda involved ...............so we paid a visit to the local Thai for a feed that even Vince would have been happy with.

(https://i.cubeupload.com/3aycck.jpg)

(https://i.cubeupload.com/inagJl.jpg)

(https://i.cubeupload.com/seaoX9.jpg)


Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on January 03, 2018, 10:01
 (bigthumb)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: drikko on January 03, 2018, 11:55
OK that's it, new year's resolution.... get rid of the beer gut starting February....
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on January 03, 2018, 13:19
OK that's it, new year's resolution.... get rid of the beer gut starting February....
Levo doesn't drink...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on January 03, 2018, 19:34
 :D I'll pay that
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on January 03, 2018, 20:33
incidentally my favourite Australian-  Troy Corsa -

think you will find majority of Australians would vote for Troy Bayliss over Troy Corser in the popularity stakes

Maxene and I meet both at Brno one year, world superbike meeting, Bayliss was great, very friendly, nothing fazed him, and he won both races
hard to even get a grunt out of Corser

same meeting Garry McCoy was riding WSS and broke his leg in practice

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on January 03, 2018, 20:53
I am sure he is a good guy as well never met him though , very popular in England when on World Superbike  - strangely met Troy a second time at an event celebrating the life of a Jouno who died on the job and again he was very sociable so who knows - i ducked from a pillion ride  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 04, 2018, 06:01
3 times in the past 15 years I have had this happen. Its bloody annoying when it rears its ugly head again. So I arrive at Bretts last week to pick up the bike after he had waved his magic spanners at it, and we, Brett myself and Chris Pritt decided to do a lunch ride to test out my bike. It lasted 150m up the road from the start, I noticed immediately when selecting 1st gear that the gear lever was stiff. And trying for 2nd gear wasn't happening, for the 3rd time over the years my rearset gear lever had nipped up. Seizing is too strong a description. It was as stiff as my Pantahs fork action. This happens without any warning, but only if it's not ridden for a couple of weeks or so. One quick squirt of a can of lube fixed it. In the past, I have tried dripping the dipstick as an emergency fix, didnt work as it doest penetrate enough. That time I rode to a mates place stuck in 3rd gear, not fun up the bloody big hill I was on. Its the shaft that the rearset gear lever pivots on, just like last time when I am home I pull it down finding it completely dry with a fine rust scale on the shaft, I give it a light sand and pack it with the water-resistant trailer grease. Bet it happens again in 5 years or so. I was almost close to adding a grease nipple but the way its constructed it doesn't look like a viable option. Am I the only recipient of this trick. Bloody old motorbikes.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: blab on January 04, 2018, 06:24
Its called maintenance Vince, levers and the like need to been cleaned and greased semi regularly.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 04, 2018, 06:51
I've got the usual Tarozzi rearsets on my Jota. They've never seized and I don't recall ever having re-greased them in the 10 years or so that I've had the bike.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: drikko on January 04, 2018, 07:15
1000 kms later we're home, a big shout out to Brett for dinner last night, Yogi for the bed and some very tasty beer last night, and biggest of all Levo for sharing the driving, putting up with my grumpiness yesterday, talking crap for 20 hours, snoring in the passenger seat and showing me where all his roots and crashes had been all over central coast of NSW, really very appreciated Levo, you're a champ :)

 Now how to get it registered tomorrow....... (https://imgur.com/lTExYhV.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: a14rgs on January 04, 2018, 08:30
Nice one Drikko, looks very tidy. Good to have an Argy in the shed again, eh? ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 08, 2018, 04:26
Went for a ride on the Jota yesterday. Came home via a road I haven't been on for a long time (Pelverata Road south of Hobart) it's steep and twisty, part gravel and part sealed. The gravel bit had some pretty bad corrugations which nearly shook the fillings out of my teeth. The sealed part of the road wasn't a whole lot better with bumps, pot-holes and badly done patches. By the time I got back onto a more civilised road, I noticed that my charging system was no longer working (got a digital voltmeter on the dash). I still had sufficient voltage in the battery to feed the ignition system and it was only about 30 mins to get home so I continued on home with the bike running on total loss, keeping an eye on the voltmeter. I figured it would be easier to diagnose and fix at home in the workshop than dicking around on the side of the road.

When I checked it out after getting home, I found that the wire to the fuse between the RR and battery had shaken off the spade connector on the fuse box. I don't think I'll be doing that bloody rough road again any time soon!

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on January 08, 2018, 11:33

When I checked it out after getting home, I found that the wire to the fuse between the RR and battery had shaken off the spade connector on the fuse box. I don't think I'll be doing that bloody rough road again any time soon! Or using those spade connectors will replace with decent ones
Fixed  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on January 08, 2018, 11:35
Hmm when changing the needle settings on the Cico noticed something untoward on the Jota so decided to fix it as the rivet counter inside of me couldnt bear it any more... interesting that none of the "rivet counters" picked it up, even though there are heaps of photos of that bike with Giovanni on it..............dont worry by next time you see it will be sorted.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: breganzane on January 08, 2018, 12:09
When I checked it out after getting home, I found that the wire to the fuse between the RR and battery had shaken off the spade connector on the fuse box.

Sounds like a rough road!  Depending on the quality of the spade terminal, the crimp used to fit it, wire size, age, (dare I say it!) vibration, etc etc... it's not unknown for spade terminals to be looser than ideal.  Not a bad idea to run around and check they are all a good fit on their spade and that they 'snap' into position, a calibrated gronk with a set of pliers is sometimes necessary to restore the correct fit.  Also there are terminals designed to be used on their own, and ones designed to be used in terminal blocks which have their own retention tags.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: a14rgs on January 08, 2018, 13:04
a calibrated gronk with a set of pliers
Is that Cosi's real job? ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 08, 2018, 20:14
Yeah it was a bit loose and has a reasonably thick (heavy) wire hanging off it. Rather than giving it the calibrated "gronk" (it looked like it had had a few of those in the past) I snipped it off and crimped on a new one.

I use Narva uninsulated terminals with the clear flexi (look like silicone) insulators. Never seen them without the retention tags though. When using them individually (not in a multi terminal block) I just press the little tag down flat.

The spade connections on the horns tend to suffer the effects of vibration too. Probably because the horns flap around on those multi-leaf springy mountings. They come loose after a while and need to be gronked occasionally.

Gronk - I think you've coined a new word.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on January 08, 2018, 21:26
A gronk in Navy speak is a very ugly woman.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: padlock on January 09, 2018, 12:53
Nothing.........as per usual

FFFANARCHY
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: RCGBOB44 on January 09, 2018, 16:16
I decided to replace the float needle valve assy's in all the carbs on my Jota.
When I dropped the two outer float bowls the petrol smelt manky and was green in colour.
Any comments?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Rob on January 09, 2018, 16:26
Quote
When I dropped the two outer float bowls the petrol smelt manky and was green in colour.
Been there too long!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on January 09, 2018, 17:32
Isnt unleaded green to start wiv?😁
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on January 09, 2018, 17:35
it"s when it looks like 1940s brown fish glue varnish you"ve had it!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on January 09, 2018, 17:38
Starting to attack the brassware in the float bowl area.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: RCGBOB44 on January 09, 2018, 18:38
Been there too long!
my exact thoughts.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 10, 2018, 01:35
That manky smell is off fuel. Find a neighbor you don't like and pour it out on their fence line. That stuff stinks manky for weeks, it will kill the weeds though. ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: 81Lav on January 10, 2018, 05:01
Did the shims on the SFC 1000 and even changed the plugs for new B8ES.
I fixed a few niggling things that have happened over the last year since the last annual service.
Happiness is a relatively low kilometer machine (27,500) as not too many things need tending to!
Oh, I had to bleed the rear Brake, again, as it just refuses to stay bled for any longer than 6 months/3000klm.

Now that I have some time the 81 Jota is next as the clutch slave has pissed fluid all over the frame and completely peeled the paint.
Not to forget the Scorch Spaceframe project that I want to finish this year.

So many things to do!
Cheers
BK
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LaverdaIan on January 10, 2018, 07:44
Go for it Bruce, always good to have Laverdas around the place to keep you busy.. You remember when you were the Ducati guy up from Vic...?? Those were easy times yea. ;)

Hey CK, manky fuel is just that.. one time in NZ we were having all sorts of problems with damp fuel, kept having to toss the lot and go again.. pissing rain..!!
So anyways, finally CeeJay just tosses the lot out on the gravel apron behind the pits..
Organisers had repeatedly asked all the campers to not park their vans behind the pits, but this one C was there for the last couple of days.. his missus was ensconsed, reading a book, not coming out at all.. we didn't give a rats until he came and aggrod us over the dumped fuel.. "it stinks and my wife is getting it through the air conditioner.."
To which CeeJay replied.."mate, you have been asked many times not to be there, you're lucky I didn't burn it off.. so f**k off..!!
No sign of that sucker the next morning.. :P

 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 10, 2018, 23:16
Got a ride organised with some mates for this weekend and I'll be taking the Jota. Heading to the west coast of Tassie for an overnight stop. It'll be about 800km all up. I’m looking forward to it but my arse is dreading the prospect. While the Jota is probably the least uncomfortable of my solo bikes, the seat gets pretty punishing after a couple of hours.

Are those Air Hawk seats worth buying? I could pop into one of the local bike shops and grab one.

Maybe I should follow Drikko's example and get an RGS. On long rides it might be easier on my old bones.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Rob on January 10, 2018, 23:42
Quote
Are those Air Hawk seats worth buying?
Yep - means you can stay a lot longer in the saddle.  Extended my 90mins before pain on something that's not a Laverda to full day riding. The only 'but' is that you do tend to roll a bit when cornering, so definitely not a good idea for track sessions!  And yes, that's even with the smallest amount of inflation which is critical for optimum comfort
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 11, 2018, 01:03
They dampen down the vibs as well. I have a thickly padded seat done by John Moorehouse who has a rep as the bloke to build an all day seat. So I expected it would work great on a big day, nup, I had numb bum after 3 or 4hours and I put that down to the vibs through the seat. That becomes an issue when I am cruising above 4500.
That's a 3C seat with the solid frame mounts front and rear, doesn't matter that it has those 4 rubber bungs it sits on. So I still use my Air Hawk all the time. Absoute minimum air gap between arse and seat for best connection in the twisties, bit more air for comfort on long rides. You use your mouth to inflate and it has a bleed valve to set the hight. I have a mid size cruiser model and fit it backwards to cushion my inner thighs.
Great gadget worth its weight in pain free ks.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 11, 2018, 06:09
OK, thanks guys. You've convinced me. I'll buy an Airhawk cushion. Reckon I'll go for the "cruiser" as it's pretty much a universal fit so I can use it on all of my bikes.

I rang around the local bike shops and nobody has them in stock, so I may as well order it on line. Plenty of time now as our trip has been postponed for 2 weeks due to a shitty weather forecast.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 11, 2018, 06:15
The online bloke is out of South Oz, he does the bike show circuit as well.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on January 11, 2018, 06:49
Bought one a few years ago but never tried it, might give it a go for the Curdie Vale trip next month.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on January 11, 2018, 10:01
I took my forum sticker on holiday. I hate skiing, but the sticker always has a good time.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4638/38665225445_28b9eef1fe.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 11, 2018, 10:08
Bet you met some sad old buggar who once had one.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LaverdaIan on January 11, 2018, 10:59
OK, thanks guys. You've convinced me. I'll buy an Airhawk cushion. Reckon I'll go for the "cruiser" as it's pretty much a universal fit so I can use it on all of my bikes.

I rang around the local bike shops and nobody has them in stock, so I may as well order it on line. Plenty of time now as our trip has been postponed for 2 weeks due to a shitty weather forecast.

Cam my friend.. have you forgotten the old 'tried but true' sheepskin method.. ::)
I had for both the Jota and Argy, makes a heck of a difference.. Bris to P.I. a breeze..
Of course you could always just get the seat re-done with modern padding.. ;)

 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on January 11, 2018, 11:43
Cam what will Tim say if you use an air hawk seat.. how about I get Maurice to send you some whitish powder and you can mix with some water and sand  :P

Those letter box seats are the ducks guts  as they are. Just ride it and save your money Cam you'll be fine.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on January 11, 2018, 13:26
Cam, I drove 13 hours yesterday in the car - sat on a slab of memory foam. Worked wonders for my sciatic nerve problem. Spreads the pressure evenly. So maybe memory foam (with a neat gingham check or Jacquard cover) would work? Cheap to try and won't punture. I think memory foam is usualy closed cell, but worth checking otherwise it'll be a sponge.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: RCGBOB44 on January 11, 2018, 18:05
I started the Jota up today after fitting new needle valve assembly's and draining the tank and refilling with nice new petrol.
She sounds and looks perfict...init.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 12, 2018, 00:42
Cam my friend.. have you forgotten the old 'tried but true' sheepskin method.. ::)

I tried a sheepskin years ago. Made bugger-all difference to comfort. It got soaking wet one rainy day and went all slimy and disgusting. I was passing through a town where people had put their rubbish bins out for the garbo man, so I left it in someone's bin.

Anyway, your suggestion is too late. I already have an Airhawk on order.

Brett, Tim's solution is more about seat height than comfort. Evidently he has no nerve endings in his arse.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on January 12, 2018, 07:58
funny had the same experience with an Airhawk, Gel pads? or inserted surgically in your arse?  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: padlock on January 12, 2018, 10:45
Ordered two bolts and polished a fork leg. Well it’s something!!!

FFFANARCHY
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on January 12, 2018, 10:53
yeah Padders so bloody cold ,I did DEOX-C  my replacement front discs (in the kitchen  ;) and change a clutch lever.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: padlock on January 12, 2018, 18:20
Actaually my little workshop is not too cold and heats up in minutes with a tiny electric heater.

FFFANARCHY
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on January 13, 2018, 11:28
This week i tidied up the garage with a lick of fresh paint and some new rubber flooring to tidy it up make it more comfortable and hopefully a tad warmer on the feet.......been meaning to do it for a couple of years now but with the new year came fresh vigor to get the job done  (bigthumb).

With the laverda sitting happy in her new surroundings it was then time to get on and carry out an oil change on her......firing her up again brought  joy to the ears, and springtime can't come soon enough for me.

Whilst she was ticking over i also tested my new pilot (daytime running) bulb (20W halogen) which i fitted recently and was surprised to see it go out with the main headlight switched on.......didn't expect that and thought that i would have to modify the wiring to prevent overload when running both.........looks like it may well have been done :)......so happy days i guess.....now if it would only warm up just a tad (sunny)  (bigthumb)





 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on January 13, 2018, 17:42
This week i tidied up the garage with a lick of fresh paint and some new rubber flooring to tidy it up make it more comfortable and hopefully a tad warmer on the feet.......been meaning to do it for a couple of years now but with the new year came fresh vigor to get the job done  (bigthumb).

With the laverda sitting happy in her new surroundings it was then time to get on and carry out an oil change on her......firing her up again brought  joy to the ears, and springtime can't come soon enough for me.

Whilst she was ticking over i also tested my new pilot (daytime running) bulb (20W halogen) which i fitted recently and was surprised to see it go out with the main headlight switched on.......didn't expect that and thought that i would have to modify the wiring to prevent overload when running both.........looks like it may well have been done :)......so happy days i guess.....now if it would only warm up just a tad (sunny)  (bigthumb)


Where's the pic of your mancave so we can see if you have been busy ! :laugh: nothing like a good shed shot


 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on January 13, 2018, 19:58
Well nothing on my bikes but yesterday went up to the big apple and headed out on Brett's Cico.
We took off towards Warangamba dam with CIMAA and had a good blast then on the way back swapped bikes and I finished the ride on his RGS.
Not having ridden a 120 for sometime it made me appreciate the mighty 180 triples.
Thanks Brett as always you are a great mate and always there to lend a hand.
Now if I can just get ride of this hangover☹️
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on January 16, 2018, 00:24
Picked up the latest copy of 'Classic Bike' (Nov issue) from the news-agent this morning. You beauty, thicker than normal, I was happy...until I opened it up and found an issue of hipster shit in the middle; complete with turned up jeans, beards and fucken man-buns. Please Classic Bike, if you persist in including this section, could you add perforations so that it could be easily removed and disposed of. Thank you. ;) ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 16, 2018, 03:44
Picked up the latest copy of 'Classic Bike' (Nov issue) from the news-agent this morning. You beauty, thicker than normal, I was happy...until I opened it up and found an issue of hipster shit in the middle; complete with turned up jeans, beards and fucken man-buns. Please Classic Bike, if you persist in including this section, could you add perforations so that it could be easily removed and disposed of. Thank you. ;) ;)

Hang'em Terry.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on January 16, 2018, 04:57
Didn't I mention that all hipsters must hang? Getting slack in my old age. :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on January 16, 2018, 06:15
I take it your flannel shirts are in the wash.. ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on January 16, 2018, 06:49
Winter wear only. If you care to step outside you may notice it's summer :-[ :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on January 16, 2018, 15:57
I took a punt on the rain not falling (turns out it was going to snow 5 minutes after I got home), got the Jota off the work bench and took it for a short test ride.

After a bit of a switch around trying to find an advance curve that it would run on, I had to settle on redax 3CL curve no. 3.

Time with a strobe light and some head scratching is required, I think. Maybe after it stops snowing.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Is2 on January 16, 2018, 21:33
Bought one a few years ago but never tried it, might give it a go for the Curdie Vale trip next month.

Had a look at the long range forecast for the Curdie Vale trip, should be about the same as last year. bit of rain and coolish.
Reakon you'll need to get that flannel shirt out to go with the air hawk.  :D  [All jokes aside the air hawks are good].

Replaced a leaking fork seal and cleaned both forks up,with new oil. this time I trimmed the top seal to use as a spacer.
Its bloody frustrating fixing recurring problems.

All polished and gleaming waiting for a test ride.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on January 16, 2018, 21:38
Quote
All polished and gleaming waiting for a test ride.
Is that a hint? Tied up with a ride with the 'Silent Service' mob on Sunday. Welcome to come along, Amberlight, Lobethal at 10:30.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Is2 on January 16, 2018, 21:42
maybe.

10.30 sounds good.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on January 16, 2018, 22:27
Have you put those old biro springs back in? ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Is2 on January 19, 2018, 19:49
Have you put those old biro springs back in? ::)

Sigh,,, :-[ yes.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: padlock on January 19, 2018, 22:34
Started on one last final dry build to make sure everything is ok before prepping for paintwork and then get it running. A few little jobs left. Finish the battery box, sort out a rear mudguard, weld in the electrics tray and maybe make a new clocks bracket as I’m still not happy with the fourth one I’ve made.

FFF
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on January 20, 2018, 08:52
Got up to 41 here today so too hot to work in the yard... so instead pulled out the Sasche Ignition and fitted an Ignitech to the Cico........hot tomorrow so will get out early and take for a spin and see how my map works.
(https://i.cubeupload.com/gFez8a.jpg)
(https://i.cubeupload.com/4gTkpa.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on January 20, 2018, 10:32
Sounds a bit odd but i do love your Cico  :D (bigthumb)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on January 20, 2018, 21:38
Hey Brett ..... do you want some CICO decals? I have a few in a box of goodies I got a while back.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 24, 2018, 00:37
Airhawk seat cushion arrived yesterday. I fitted it to the Jota this morning. Got a long ride planned this weekend - well, as long a ride as you can do in Tasmania without going off the edge. Anyway, the Airhawk seat should get a good workout with my heavy arse on it.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on January 24, 2018, 18:08
Reading "Raid" on a rainy day.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: seagreen on January 24, 2018, 18:49
Alliteration LJ - steady! Got my copy today but not started it yet.
Adios,
Charles
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on January 24, 2018, 21:34
I m a poet too !
Shepton Charles for yoo?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: padlock on January 26, 2018, 14:03
Things are moving!!!!

FFFANARCHY
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on January 26, 2018, 16:43
Things are moving!!!!

FFFANARCHY

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Andy on January 27, 2018, 03:41
Ran through a tank of petrol. I was a bit worried it might've been going stale cos it had been sitting for almost 2 weeks...
Definitely fixed now, better safe than sorry  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on January 27, 2018, 04:19
Ran through a tank of petrol. I was a bit worried it might've been going stale cos it had been sitting for almost 2 weeks...
Definitely fixed now, better safe than sorry  ;D
;D indeed
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: padlock on January 27, 2018, 14:06
Calipers packed off for a full refurbishment, new clocks bracket started, electrics tray made ready to be welded in, rear brake line sorted, rear mudguard sorted. Just need to sus out a side stand a bit of work on the battery tray then its time to start prep for paint.

FFFANARCHY
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on January 27, 2018, 14:17
To Paddy I trust Padders?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: padlock on January 27, 2018, 16:49
To Paddy I trust Padders?

As in Ducati paddy?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on January 27, 2018, 17:57
yup.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Scrumpy on January 28, 2018, 15:49
Spent yesterday afternoon trying to squeeze the new bike into the garage. Absolutely no way so one has to go. Probably the 668 which is sadly now outside under cover.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4724/39928411511_3331a10b9d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23QkxE8)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4714/39029896425_5fd9fd558c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22sWqqH)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4718/25056983397_2f10d87b3b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EbcAc8)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4719/28148351829_8ebbabd03f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JTnEjR)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: padlock on January 28, 2018, 16:49
Fucking hell scrumps, for the money you’ve spent on all that tat (orange jobbie excepted) you could have finished two of your motodds. Sell me one of the feckin frames!!!!

FFFANARCHY
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Scrumpy on January 28, 2018, 17:32
During a heavy session over the Christmas period I sold the Mk4. I cant believe I did that but I did. Anyway the money financed the Formula and the remainder will help with the Mk3.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on February 03, 2018, 21:16
ILOC Stand Shepton, thx for pic Alan.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on February 03, 2018, 21:38
Nice tent
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on February 05, 2018, 08:27
Had a neglected orphan roll into my shed today. Tyres at least have plenty tread (just a tad old)......... ;)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2FP1010447.jpg&hash=2dd01b70f795afc023fbc073becf2374)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on February 05, 2018, 10:39
Had a neglected orphan roll into my shed today. Tyres at least have plenty tread (just a tad old)......... ;)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2FP1010447.jpg&hash=2dd01b70f795afc023fbc073becf2374)
Hmm drum brake rear tell us some more....
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on February 05, 2018, 10:53
Early GT or S with Grimeca hubs... ;D

Tyre must be about as old as the bike!

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on February 05, 2018, 12:18
Ordered a digital micrometer , finally, so am well armed to tackle the valve clearances without the need to try and figure out ehat the scale on the manual one says! Whats the betting i wont need to use it anyway if all is within tolerance? You dont hear much about folk checking the valve clearances these days...maybe no one bothers?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on February 05, 2018, 13:27
Nick. Bin it or get your money back, as soon as the mic realises it's in the hands of a solictor, the numbers on the screen will become inflated beyond reasonable expectation.

Seriously though, if you are measuring shims, please make sure the mic sits dead flat on the interior surface of the shim. If the diamter of the mic fits just snug into the 'bore' of the shim you might hit the corner radii of the inside and get a false high reading.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on February 05, 2018, 13:53
Cheers Paul!  I think😁 btw NS400 def coming...3k miles! Going on dyno etc first..its in bleedin Huddersfield so weather needs to warm up as i plan train up ride down..
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on February 05, 2018, 20:22
Early GT or S with Grimeca hubs... ;D

Tyre must be about as old as the bike!

piet
Give that man the chocolates (bigthumb)
Actually an American Eagle. Been on here before (to mixed response ::))
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on February 05, 2018, 20:24
Give that man the chocolates (bigthumb)
Actually an American Eagle. Been on here before (to mixed response ::))

did you buy the import from Alan Smith ?

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on February 05, 2018, 21:14
did you buy the import from Alan Smith ?
Yep. Was talking to him about something else and I mentioned the AE he had last year. Turned out he still had it, so........

Looking at the papers - came with original Ca ownership Certificate issued 27/8/70, so looks like a one owner bike (obviously until sold to Allen in 2015).
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 06, 2018, 02:55
Peter, is that the blue red and white one with patina to burn?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on February 06, 2018, 03:55
Peter, is that the blue red and white one with patina to burn?
No Blue, just Red with white pinstripes.
And yes, has badly "corroded" paintwork.......... (mind you inside the tank looks brand new ;))
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on February 06, 2018, 08:04
Jota started running a little rough last weekend. Missing and coughing. I put a new set of plugs in it yesterday and it's running nicely again.

The plugs that came out of it looked perfectly OK. All were a nice colour and clean. I presume only one of them was playing up, but I dunno which one. Seems a waste to chuck out 3 plugs when in all probability only one of them is fucked. This has happened before. Maybe I should build a spark plug tester.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on February 06, 2018, 09:08
Or put them back in and check which header is cooler.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on February 06, 2018, 10:23
Missing was only intermittent and with engine under load. Bike started and idled OK. Don't reckon there would be much difference in header temp.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on February 06, 2018, 10:50
Missing was only intermittent and with engine under load. Bike started and idled OK. Don't reckon there would be much difference in header temp.

It'll be caused by the porcelain being contaminated... modern plugs seem to be more affected with this phenomenon than those in the past... guess a lot is down to zero lead these days so plug manufacturers get a free kick in not having to make them so bullet proof.
Its a right pain in the arse plugs... foul or even look like fouling even once and they are due for the bin.
If you find new old stock bet they will last longer.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on February 06, 2018, 16:48
Theres a nice line in the Green book about plugs...religiously take em out and inspect annually..then bin and replace!
Mine are the platinum type..been in a few years...am going to bin as have new set..think iridiam tipped now. Ngk.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on February 06, 2018, 18:51
finished doing the repairs to the Jota cans (s/s) and then removed the whole exhaust and took it to the loacal polishers for a full on, all over shine, to be just like new, cost 200GBP, seemed a lot to me, but is it? I mean a new full system might be a bag of sand by now for all I know, and when back new it will certainly look almost new, and no chain, centre stnd springs or footbrake fowling.
pictures later.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on February 06, 2018, 22:34
t... guess a lot is down to zero lead these days so plug manufacturers get a free kick in not having to make them so bullet proof.

Zero lead? To quote Pauline Hanson "please explain"
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on February 07, 2018, 01:28
Theres a nice line in the Green book about plugs...religiously take em out and inspect annually..then bin and replace!
Mine are the platinum type..been in a few years...am going to bin as have new set..think iridiam tipped now. Ngk.

There have been interesting discussion in regard to 2 points from your post.

1. The amount of fake NGK plugs on the market, including on store shelves. (Could also be the cause of Cam's misfire)

2. The lack of benefit gained by using Iridium plugs in our bikes. In fact Paul had a dyno run done comparing normal plugs to iridium which demonstrated a significant power drop with the iridium plugs.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on February 07, 2018, 02:39
Found a bit of a major disaster today. I have a 3 inch Morad rim laced to the rear wheel of my 3C and lately I have been checking the spoke tension as it was feeling a little loose in the rear. I bought the rim years ago from Central Wheel and it was pre-drilled, the wheelwright who assembled it was far from happy as the drillings were not correct for the hub size and spoke pattern but he said he would do his best, and its lasted 15 years. Today I found at least one spoke has pulled through the rim with others looking not good. So its new rim time, just spoke to the importer of Borani Rims and the 3-inch rims are $569. He tells me he might know someone who can drill it, hopefully, correct this time. And its 6 weeks from point of order. Where is that Pantah.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 07, 2018, 03:16
the 3-inch rims are $569.

That's a crazy price Vince ........... at that price, I'd be taling my chance with one of these knock-offs:
 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/wheel-rim-like-borrani-record-alloy-aluminium-WM5-3-00-x-18-holes-36/253378281490?hash=item3afe85c012:g:MOQAAOSwCtJZ6MNJ

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jod on February 07, 2018, 04:52
I bought 2 for 600 bucks cash from Graeme Studdert 2 years back...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on February 07, 2018, 05:09
If thats the Boranai Importer in Newcastle and I think it is, the $569 is his price, and thats a 3 inch rim, not the usual 2.5inch.Not in stock, needs a special order from Italy. I am off to see a wheelwright who might have a cheaper fix tomorrow.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverdalothar on February 07, 2018, 06:51
finaly managed to send my M1R out to HH-Racing.de for getting the fork upgraded to full adjustment, better allignement and a second set of slider-rings (lower end of the stanchion). Had one fork done by them years ago, worked very well. Sold it with the bike unfortunately, should have simply exchanged the forks of the bikes...  :-[

Nevertheless: that was - I think - the last piece that kept me from getting the bike back together. delivery time for the fork is 4 weeks though...  :o Hope I'll get it sooner, want to have the bike back on the road this year...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on February 07, 2018, 08:04
Nevertheless: that was - I think - the last piece that kept me from getting the bike back together. delivery time for the fork is 4 weeks though...  :o Hope I'll get it sooner, want to have the bike back on the road this year...

Surely there's more than 4 weeks left in the year Lothar?

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on February 08, 2018, 03:44
Seems no one in Oz has the rear rim I want in stock or even knows when it might arrive. That's why I didnt use Distributor Titmans in Queensland 15 years ago when I fitted the bigger rim, it's lucky if you get them to answer the phone. The Wheelwrights on the job, small world, he himself races sidecars and has a mates race chair there for work to be done.So I wait for a rim to appear. BTW he has used a few of those Chinese rims and hasn't had any issues so that's the way its going, hope it works out
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 08, 2018, 04:44
Seems no one in Oz has the rear rim I want in stock or even knows when it might arrive. That's why I didnt use Distributor Titmans in Queensland 15 years ago when I fitted the bigger rim, it's lucky if you get them to answer the phone. The Wheelwrights on the job, small world, he himself races sidecars and has a mates race chair there for work to be done.So I wait for a rim to appear. BTW he has used a few of those Chinese rims and hasn't had any issues so that's the way its going, hope it works out

You could ask here: http://www.asw.com.au/
Talk to Jack.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on February 08, 2018, 06:38
You could ask here: http://www.asw.com.au/
Talk to Jack.

I thought the wheels spoke for themselves   ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jod on February 08, 2018, 07:45
Good old Chivo is the ducks guts as you know Vince...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on February 08, 2018, 07:57
You would think but no, the bloke I know who races sidecars is Doug Chivers Nephue Jason, the wheelwright I am using is a bloke called matty who lives right at the Top of the razorbacks, old hume hwy and also races sidecars. Seems Jason's sidecar is at his workshop. Got 2nd at the Island last week. Just like the small Laverda world seems the racing sidecar world is smaller.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on February 08, 2018, 11:17
Hey Vince a 3 inch rim with 36 spokes should be easy to buy it would most likely have to be drilled and should be around $500 including lacing, do you want mud catchers or not?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on February 08, 2018, 11:50
You can't trust those cats that ride 3 wheelers man
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on February 08, 2018, 12:02
I am hoping a bit less than that Maurice, Chinese rim $200, drilling $100 and lacing with my original spokes the same. Yes mud catchers, hope the delivery time is quick. That's what has been on the bike for the last 15 years, it's the wrong drillings that has caused this issue now. It was delivered from Central Wheel drilled already, I told them what it was going on but it seems it was a more typical drilling that was done, smaller hub not 2x2 lace pattern and was fudged to fit back then. Anyway, its lasted 15 years so not so bad in the long run. It was looking pretty unsafe with gaps around sections of the spoke holes, happy I caught it before it broke.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: huey on February 09, 2018, 02:40
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Borrani-Wm3-19-40-Hole-Made-In-Italy-Undrilled-Nos/282820457471?_trkparms=aid%3D333008%26algo%3DRIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D49923
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 09, 2018, 03:11
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Borrani-Wm3-19-40-Hole-Made-In-Italy-Undrilled-Nos/282820457471?_trkparms=aid%3D333008%26algo%3DRIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D49923

 :( No Noddy badge Huey, that's, unless Vince wants to go to a 19" rear.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on February 09, 2018, 03:14
40 spokes as well, think that's Ducati
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Andy on February 09, 2018, 03:57
Jota started running a little rough last weekend. Missing and coughing. I put a new set of plugs in it yesterday and it's running nicely again.

The plugs that came out of it looked perfectly OK. All were a nice colour and clean. I presume only one of them was playing up, but I dunno which one. Seems a waste to chuck out 3 plugs when in all probability only one of them is fucked. This has happened before. Maybe I should build a spark plug tester.

I think I recall you saying that one of your coils is a dual output with one lead earthed down. That will double the voltage to the other lead. Is it possible that by doubling the voltage to that plug it's life is shortened? I don't know the specs on plugs, I might be way off track...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on February 09, 2018, 05:50
Pulled the spark plugs and found some plugs I'd never seen before. Plugs are Bosch WG250T28.
This plug grounds to the side of the electrode which means ground does not protrude past centre electrode and the gap down into the plug past the centre electrode has some sort of cover (with holes) (Seems like it would be hard to clean if sooted up)
The plugs also have a red rubber collar around the insulator body, not sure if this is for additional insulation or grip?

Were these common back in the day?
(I know, I know, I've lived a sheltered life.............)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on February 09, 2018, 07:05
IIrc, "gold alloy" electrode, hence the "G".  Quite an expensive plug back then, but a bit on the cold side for general use, "250" would equate to somewhere between a Champion N3 and N2.

The red rubber actually belongs to the water-proofing of the steel-shielded suppressed caps that were common.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on February 09, 2018, 07:16
IIrc, "gold alloy" electrode, hence the "G".  Quite an expensive plug back then, but a bit on the cold side for general use, "250" would equate to somewhere between a Champion N3 and N2.

The red rubber actually belongs to the water-proofing of the steel-shielded suppressed caps that were common.

piet
Thanks Piet, knew you'd know............
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on February 10, 2018, 10:39
Took the 3C out today on the monthly CIMMA ride down to Thirlmere, poor thing was surrounded by V twins but it held its head up high flying the Laverda flag.  A lone Ducati also arrived to help ward off all the Guzzi's, interesting as it was 40 years to the day since it was purchased... so a one owner bike and the pipe has been on it for 35 of the 40 years of its life.

Had a bit of a chat with Brett and Gary regarding the club plates and the log book scheme to get the latest.

Dennis Fry rolled up on his old Honda, now he is 85 and still riding though as previously noted, he had to sell his 750GT was was getting to hard to start. Anyways another old timer, Andrew, a Guzzi guy pulled up on his scooter and being an ex racer the two of them got to talking. Then Andrew said about how all his velocettes ending up cracking frames as they were brazed in the day. Well Dennis goes mine never and I've got 14 and used to race many a Velo.. So the rest of us were waiting for Andrew to suggest to Dennis he wasnt trying hard enough back in the day... but that would have been fraught with danger and Dennis always used to whip his arse... and the legendry Hailwoods to, at Bathurst anyways.

Wow we must have chatted for a good couple of hours.. what a way to spend a Saturday. He calls me the Laverda man and reckons he'll be there again next month. To be honest I cant wait and some of his stories.......Andrew asked if he wanted to go to the legends dinner and Dennis said no I stay away as there are too many bullshitters there.. what was it he said.. oh yeh, "the old buggers there the more they drink the faster they used to go down Conrod....but there all full of shit "

Interesting mod to the gear lever and foot peds... a result of many a broken foot/ankle... oh and Andy will get a hard one at the tyre on the thing.
(https://u.cubeupload.com/Lavman/IMG0012.jpg)
(https://u.cubeupload.com/Lavman/IMG0014.jpg)
(https://u.cubeupload.com/Lavman/IMG0016.jpg)
(https://u.cubeupload.com/Lavman/IMG0015.jpg)
(https://u.cubeupload.com/Lavman/IMG0017.jpg)
(https://u.cubeupload.com/Lavman/IMG0020.jpg)
(https://u.cubeupload.com/Lavman/IMG0019.jpg)
One for Andy
(https://u.cubeupload.com/Lavman/IMG0013.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on February 11, 2018, 10:51
Dismantled the forks on the AE today. One was very rigid so took them completely apart. Needed to use a hammer to get totally apart. Turns out one of the damper pistons had "grown" and was now too big for the stanchion. Definitely bigger than the other one which fits fine (in both stanchions) Remembered reading about this issue on here previously.
Anyway, good opportunity to get everything cleaned up nicely. Actually the stanchions are in great shape and what I thought was marks on the chrome turned to be just stuck on old crud.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on February 11, 2018, 15:14
repaired exhaust pre-polishing
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on February 11, 2018, 15:16
and another
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on February 11, 2018, 15:23
last one
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on February 11, 2018, 22:13
Dismantled the forks on the AE today. One was very rigid so took them completely apart. Needed to use a hammer to get totally apart. Turns out one of the damper pistons had "grown" and was now too big for the stanchion.

Yep, Cerianis do that. If the piston isn't full of cracks or distorted by your hammer blows, you can turn down the OD on a lathe. Otherwise just grab a bit of Al bar and make new pistons.

Here's the earlier thread on the subject http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,96832.msg391443.html#msg391443 (http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,96832.msg391443.html#msg391443)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: padlock on February 12, 2018, 20:20
Some nice shiny bits turned up in the post today. Calipers refurbished and some nice chromed bits
url=https://flic.kr/p/24hWPeP](https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4767/40229521741_750e636d2a_c.jpg)[/url]570CA074-83F8-46DD-8F23-F9FB6332D61E (https://flic.kr/p/24hWPeP) by padlock 10 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/56669590@N02/), on Flickr

url=https://flic.kr/p/23d8jms](https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4745/39518631554_08874b8b81_c.jpg)[/url]8FBFE34D-E98F-4B63-AEBE-F1FD0453921F (https://flic.kr/p/23d8jms) by padlock 10 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/56669590@N02/), on Flickr

FFFANARCHY
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on February 13, 2018, 02:34
I got a text from the Wheelwright last night, I was prepared to use a knockoff Chinese copy of a Boranai 3inch 36 spoke rim, but he tells me he has found and ordered a Morad Akront undrilled for $265 locally and he should have it done early next week. I am a very happy boy. Hope it comes together strong with better snugger drilling than before.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on February 13, 2018, 13:30
I went in the garage and gave the clutch a workout on my S2 Jota - to make sure it was not sticking
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on February 13, 2018, 14:28
went to the polishers (exhaust system)  on the agreed day that they would be done, with bangers and mash in hand, and found that he had put them on a shelf in a store room and didn't seem bothered, I would like them soon I said and with that he carried the box of bits to his working area.

Oh dear God what is wrong with these people and their prioritisation? I ASKED when they would be done, not demanded, and I respect that bigger and more important customers can "get in the way" but if anything changes, I wish I could be told as soon as the change happens, just told, that's all. Its not a new problem and Laverda dealers themselves have been and are some of the worst offenders in operating a queue and dealing with work as it comes in or is booked in.At least polisher man hadn't started, if he hasn't started by Friday, then they come away with me undone.

CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on February 13, 2018, 18:17
I feel your pain Clem,I hate handing any of my bits over to anyone and prefer to do as much as i can myself, sometimes we just have to do it though and i'm never happy until i have it back in my hands again.

Hopefully your visit will kickstart them back into life.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: henrywillms on February 14, 2018, 15:44
I think auto body shops are the worse for taking along time to do motorcycle paint. Especially here in Canada it easy to put it off during the winter when they know you are not riding. I gave them my  bodywork in November and not started yet. They do good work at a reasonable price .....thank God we have 6 months of winter!!!!!

On the other hand only 10 days for a machine shop to true the hub on my rear wheel (RGS Corsa) in their lathe. The surface the brake disk bolts to was not true causing disk run out up to .012" at the out edge of the disk (.008 variation at the outer diameter of the hub).

Chromer is typically 2 months.

Thankfully Wolfgang is fast with parts. However as I get older I seem go be slowing down putting it all back together anyway.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Is2 on February 14, 2018, 19:57
Fitted new progressive springs to the Jota with 24mm preload.

Need to go for a ride now and see how they are working.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 14, 2018, 22:17
Dropped off my exhaust to my favorite welder so he could weld the perforated tube into the megaphone.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on February 14, 2018, 22:34
Fitted new progressive springs to the Jota with 24mm preload.

Need to go for a ride now and see how they are working.


I could be persuaded...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on February 14, 2018, 22:58
On the other hand only 10 days for a machine shop to true the hub on my rear wheel (RGS Corsa) in their lathe. The surface the brake disk bolts to was not true causing disk run out up to .012" at the out edge of the disk (.008 variation at the outer diameter of the hub).

Unusual to find a wheel that's out of true at the hub. Plenty of them are out of shape at the rim due to a rough life, but the hubs are usually spot on. Maybe someone has messed with it before.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 14, 2018, 23:12
Unusual to find a wheel that's out of true at the hub.

 ??? I wonder ....... there have been cases of the rear rotor on RGS' snapping in half. http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,85032.0.html
Perhaps this is the reason.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on February 15, 2018, 08:10
Trimming down the inlet seats of the racer while the motor is apart for the new Carrillos. Not a job I willingly farm out. Inlets had become wide but not the exhausts. Very lucky to have friends with the right tools to lend me.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on February 15, 2018, 21:28
A wee project of mine at the moment.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4672/25417309457_065a367bef_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EJ3mzp)IMG-20180215-WA0005 (https://flic.kr/p/EJ3mzp) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on February 15, 2018, 21:43
Quote
??? I wonder ....... there have been cases of the rear rotor on RGS' snapping in half. http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,85032.0.html
Perhaps this is the reason.
Have a bit of a theory on the cause.
In the past, I was in a situation that required me to use the rear brake more than usual, when I pulled up I found that the rear wheel was binding and the disc was very hot. On investigation I found that the pads unevenly worn, basically wedge shaped and surmised that the pads were causing the pistons to lock up. The problem was solved with new pads and I now make it a habit of rotating the pads on a regular basis.
Think this problem was recognised with the advent of four-pot calipers where the pistons are of different sizes.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on February 16, 2018, 07:11
A wee project of mine at the moment.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4672/25417309457_065a367bef_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EJ3mzp)IMG-20180215-WA0005 (https://flic.kr/p/EJ3mzp) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

Lockable loo?

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on February 16, 2018, 07:16
"Think this problem was recognised with the advent of four-pot calipers where the pistons are of different sizes"
Most modern bikes have single piston rear calipers these days, often small "radial" mounted ones. I have never had uneven wear on pads with my 08 rear caliper.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on February 16, 2018, 09:21
Good for you Tippie. I have had uneven wear on mine and the problem was solved as stated.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on February 16, 2018, 10:31
Come on Grant put us out of our misery..what is that about...fuel pump is my non engineering best guess?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on February 16, 2018, 14:36
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4712/25429157127_fcd26698f2_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EK65tz)IMG-20180215-WA0006 (https://flic.kr/p/EK65tz) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 16, 2018, 21:02
Suzuki SV1000 fuel filler
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on February 16, 2018, 21:36
Port a loo?

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on February 16, 2018, 22:32
I think your tank has a leak Grant
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on February 17, 2018, 02:39
Work in progress, R6 cap actually.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on February 17, 2018, 10:33
YES,
I doid get my polishing parts returned yesterday, but now have insufficient time to be ready to ride today, and the robbing bastard wanted an extra 20 quid, which he didn't get!, they do look good though, virtually as new, there is a lot to be said about the longevity and durability of stainless exhaust, they just don't look as good as chrome, but it only last until you run the motor, these exhausts are probably 30 years old and going strong and still looking good for another two ton of dosh,
photos later,
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: phil37 on February 17, 2018, 11:59
 Picked up this little beauty this morning - nearly bought it a few years ago - It' a mad 728cc BSA M20 sprint bike - has got a V5 with it too   >:D >:D - Regards - Phil
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Beucars on February 17, 2018, 12:19
Fantastic!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 17, 2018, 21:11
Spent yesterday in the Redax shed, rebuilt 880SFCK motor went in, bolted everything up.

Second stab of the button and she roared into life, idle jets changed, and we’re ready for a dyno run. Sounds crisp, and sweet.

Very pleased with the outcome, big thanks to Red. Will try and get a video on YouTube soon.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: henrywillms on February 19, 2018, 01:51
My rear wheel hub on my Corsa (with floating disk) may have got out of true when I had problem with the brake getting "stuck on" . I assumed it was hard seals on the piston that then caused the piston to stay out and warp/score the disk. I addressed those problems but then found the hub was out of wack. I am guessing the cause and effect but I don't know what came first....the chicken or the egg.








Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on February 19, 2018, 02:52
Well, I can answer one question - the egg came first.  Probably doesn't help solve your brake problem though.

You should talk to Drikko. Your RGS has too much rear braking. His has none. You should be able to come up with some kind of solution between the two of you.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on February 20, 2018, 06:58
Been mucking around with AE. Had to pull the forks and totally dismantle, so while it was sitting there thought I'd check the wiring out. Someone had been in there and all was a bit confusing, sought wise council from someone familiar with early GTs and it all became a little clearer (thanks Piet). Anyway thought it best to pull the lot out and go from scratch :o (Now where did that one go....??)
While in that neck of the woods, thought might as well change the steering head bearings so that all came off and wouldn't you know - the bearings came out relatively easily with a large enough hammer.
Hopefully I can start putting some things back together soon............
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2F20180220_163413.jpg&hash=f070544d4a79668f441de3907584fe55)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on February 20, 2018, 07:42
Is that a 'before' or 'after' shot and where's the little Honda gone..?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on February 20, 2018, 07:55
Is that a 'before' or 'after' shot and where's the little Honda gone..?
Huh ??? If that's a before shot I didn't have much to take apart and doesn't look like I'd need a hammer for the bearings...............

The Honda has been relegated to a cosy spot in front of the garage door covered by a tarp.(Just never been able to get motivated there.........)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on February 20, 2018, 22:28
The Honda has been relegated to a cosy spot in front of the garage door covered by a tarp.(Just never been able to get motivated there.........)
I take it the van has moved a little further down the driveway then: before too long you're gonna need a bigger shed... ;D ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 21, 2018, 00:32
Is that a 'before' or 'after' shot and where's the little Honda gone..?

Wherever it is, the 750's left header went with it!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on February 23, 2018, 06:04
So its 2 weeks and counting for the new rear rim to appear at the wheelwrights. Seems it's coming from the Central Coast of NSW somewhere and going to Picton, that's maybe 120ks at most. If I knew it would be that slow I would have driven up there and hand delivered the bloody thing.Australia Post or Couriers, no idea who but pony express maybe.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on February 23, 2018, 06:29
Absolutely bugger all, too bloody hot!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 23, 2018, 07:06
Today, I made the first of my 'foot-peg' mounts right hand side. 10mm aluminium plate, spent an hour wet and dry rubbing, and polished it up on the buffing wheel.

Fitted to the bike, love it. Looks better than what was there before!

Pegs and levers arrive Monday, then I can attack the left rear brake mount.

Rummaging through my bits, I found a smaller m/c that I can use, has 8mm thread for the banjo, but I'll tap that to 10, and then get a braided hose made up ........ then of to the dyno guys.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 23, 2018, 07:15
BTW, just booked a Bali holiday with the chick in my avatar.  :D

I'm sort of hoping my wife, and avatar girls husband, get sick a couple of days before the flight :P

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on February 23, 2018, 08:14
When?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 23, 2018, 20:33
When?

September
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on February 23, 2018, 20:44
Bugger
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 23, 2018, 22:23
Bugger

Bugger why Pat, you going too?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: walkermarra on February 23, 2018, 23:27
MOT'd it, lovely little ride to Treens, small advisory on back wheel bearings. All just in time -4 freezing weather next week !! 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: 2volts on February 24, 2018, 09:46
First time out in a few months since tearing some knee ligaments riding offroad, went down south of Perth, met Mike and his BMW near Wellington Dam, then rode the backroads in vicinity of Donnybrook, Nannup, Balingup.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Laverda-Jota/i-34R2J28/0/4e43cb07/XL/IMG_0381-XL.jpg)

There's lots of good roads down that way, but best on a weekday, too many tourists and sightseers on weekends.

pete
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on February 24, 2018, 22:46
Bugger why Pat, you going too?

In May, scootering around up north this time.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sweetas on February 25, 2018, 05:12
BTW, just booked a Bali holiday with the chick in my avatar.  :D

I'm sort of hoping my wife, and avatar girls husband, get sick a couple of days before the flight :P

Don't understand! the guys reckon your wife is a hoot in bed........
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on February 25, 2018, 05:25
Real night owl
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sweetas on February 25, 2018, 05:59
Her wisdom is questionable!! ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 25, 2018, 07:17
Don't understand! the guys reckon your wife is a hoot in bed........

Who
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sweetas on February 25, 2018, 07:42
Who

Touché 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: drikko on February 25, 2018, 08:47
OK back on topic, sourced new speedo cable from Mr Ed, but it would go into the speedo, turned out the cable had broken off inside the receiver or what ever your call it. Ok so painfully pulled the instrument cluster out bathed in sweat being 30+ degrees and about 200% humidity, yep end of cable was stuck in. Swore at it for a while and tried to fish out with a small screwdriver with no luck. Found a 2mm drill bit, screwed that in, dragged it out, bingo problem solvered. Also found the connector from the ignition switch was severely corroded so fixed that. All back together in a pool of sweat. Beers were had. Tried to fit the new brake lines but the one from the master cylinder wasn't long enough for the executive bars despite being ordered for an executive..... Back to the shop tomorrow...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 26, 2018, 05:03
My Tarozzi pegs and levers arrived today. One of the rattle stopping washers, the ones that are spring steel and bent like this ) was jammed in against the head of the main cap screw.

Barry my bolt bloke just smiled and shook his head (like an Indian ordering Vindaloo) when I asked for one ......... and to think, he has been so helpful in the past.  ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on February 27, 2018, 23:44
Weather is getting better here, 55F today, took the SF2 out of the shed today, nice ride, also means I can work on the 3CL comfortably, here is pic of my two beauties
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on February 28, 2018, 00:14
Two beauties indeed.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on February 28, 2018, 00:58
Two beauties indeed.

+1. And not a drop of orange in sight  :-X  ::)  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Chappo on February 28, 2018, 02:45
here is pic of my two beauties

Very nice bikes.

Nice photo too. I cropped it for you. :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on February 28, 2018, 04:42
Orange :o Knew there was something 'not quite right'  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 28, 2018, 07:26
Orange :o Knew there was something 'not quite right'  ;)

Maybe he wears an orange hivis vest
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on February 28, 2018, 10:47
just got rid of the orange on the 3C  (bigthumb)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 28, 2018, 11:17
Spent the night at Club Laverda NSW meeting, good to catch up with the guys.



Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on February 28, 2018, 12:04
+1. And not a drop of orange in sight  :-X  ::)  :laugh:
The 3CL Jarama's came in red and green, I have two sets of bodywork , the green as shown and red,
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on February 28, 2018, 12:07
The 3CL Jarama's came in red and green, I have two sets of bodywork , the green as shown and red,

Sounds like the perfect solution to me.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on February 28, 2018, 13:39
It's almost like having 2 bikes in 1 Davo
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on February 28, 2018, 16:53
Snow gear on  8)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on February 28, 2018, 17:23
I think I saw Jay Leno say white is a hard colour to pull off, the lines need to be perfect for white to work, that's a great example of that idea.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on February 28, 2018, 17:41
Thanks Vince ,Piaggio white ,saw one in Breganze and loved it ,better than the orange it was.!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on February 28, 2018, 19:22
The 3CL Jarama's came in red and green, I have two sets of bodywork , the green as shown and red,
Sounds like my RGS trick keeps everyone on their toes...

Love that green 3CL brings back memories
So we got two Lav's to the meeting last night neither Orange well bikes that is.........
 
Was good to catch up with Chris he was respectively dress in black  :o



Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 28, 2018, 20:29
Sounds like my RGS trick keeps everyone on their toes...

Love that green 3CL brings back memories
So we got two Lav's to the meeting last night neither Orange well bikes that is.........
 
Was good to catch up with Chris he was respectively dress in black  :o

Orange clashes with my blue eyes
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on February 28, 2018, 20:42
Brett, don’t forget about the bloke in Penrith
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on March 01, 2018, 01:33
Sounds like my RGS trick keeps everyone on their toes...

Love that green 3CL brings back memories
So we got two Lav's
 
Was good to catch up with Chris he was respectively dress in black  :o
  It's a fine line between red and orange, here is my tank that I'm fixing, same tank different lighting,
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on March 01, 2018, 02:04
My bike was Orange for a while and I got sick of doing the why story so I decided to go Red. I wanted it as red as possible but some bits I also wanted powder coated so down I go and look at the 2 reds the powder coater had. One was more a crimson so I went for the really bright red called signal red. I then got the rest of the bits colour matched in 2 pack, after the bits are painted I went with another person to pick them up. Heading home I got a bit worried and started asking the other person if the bits looked as red as some of the cars we were passing, the answer I got back was well NO, it's more Orange than that car.And buggar me it is pretty Orange in certain lights.Seems Orange is hard to avoid for Laverdas.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on March 01, 2018, 04:18
My bike was Orange for a while and I got sick of doing the why story so I decided to go Red. I wanted it as red as possible but some bits I also wanted powder coated so down I go and look at the 2 reds the powder coater had. One was more a crimson so I went for the really bright red called signal red. I then got the rest of the bits colour matched in 2 pack, after the bits are painted I went with another person to pick them up. Heading home I got a bit worried and started asking the other person if the bits looked as red as some of the cars we were passing, the answer I got back was well NO, it's more Orange than that car.And buggar me it is pretty Orange in certain lights.Seems Orange is hard to avoid for Laverdas.

Vince, once you try black, you’ll never go back.

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on March 01, 2018, 04:40
Here is another colour story. My other road bike is yellow, don't ask the idiot previous owner wanted something different. So it needed the standard Pantah graphics to break it up a bit and I was tawn between black and the Kenny Roberts look and red, more typical but not standard Pantah look. Usually there fully red with yellow graphics. I settled on the red graphics, but once they were fixed on the bike it made an odd visual effect. It made the once vivid yellow now look like mustard. Kida odd effect now, I should have done a Yogi and gone black graphics.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: tom3c75 on March 01, 2018, 08:00
That white looks really good LJ, a clean colour that complements the Laverda's clean lines.   
The first Laverdas I saw, 750's, were in white.

Tom
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on March 01, 2018, 08:02
Vince, once you try black, you’ll never go back.

Yogi
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on March 01, 2018, 08:03
Brett, don’t forget about the bloke in Penrith
I didnt, sent you a PM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on March 01, 2018, 10:03
Shaun if that's your 3C its beautiful  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on March 01, 2018, 10:18
Thanks Maurice it is, high praise indeed! I saw one at Oro's and was smitten then,

 Will take some more and with the double seat when the snow clears!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 03, 2018, 05:35
I didnt, sent you a PM

And I thank you kind Sir.

Back home after a few days in Sydney. Serious night out with some of my coworkers.
Opened the garage door to check out my r/h gear change, looks just like it did before I left. Can't post pictures, because my computer and phone are not on speaking terms  :(
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on March 03, 2018, 10:59
Been continuing the recommissioning of the Eagle.
Fitted new steering head bearings today, ball at top and tapered at bottom. (Bike had sealed ball bearings at top and bottom ???) Fully dismantled and cleaned carbs and replaced washers & o rings. Fitted new mechanical advance unit, cleaned up points base plate and points and generally cleaned a few moving part type places. Looks like sawdust around the front sprocket (which looks like new) so clutch arm was stiff and dry and clutch cable adjuster screw had broken off in side cover >:( Managed to pull cable out and with judicious use of a suitable size screwdriver managed to unscrewed the broken part out - How's that ;D Front brake drum had grease around pivot points (which looked like a problem waiting to happen) and the cam pivots were actually very stiff in their bore from dried grease and did not operate properly. Cleaned them up and hopefully will work as they should. Obviously had a battery leak at some stage and chain guard is stained as well as battery area. Battery box and tool box obviously had a cursory clean and someone gave it a quick hit with some green spray paint which oversprayed wherever:o Bit of steel wool and it came off the frame rails ok but am going to have to give the battery box and tool box a bit more attention and paint. Wasn't planning on painting anything, but....
Hopefully get to the wiring over the next week or so and connect all the wires where they should be (missing a few "grub" screws from the ignition panel :'() and reassemble front forks with new seals and working damper rod piston ;) and move on to some other areas.............
Having a ball working on this old dear!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 03, 2018, 21:41
Pete, I will be up you way over the next week, well, Rocky Ponds for a couple of days, and then Townsville. Will poke my nose in and checkout Eddy, if that's OK.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on March 04, 2018, 01:45
Pete, I will be up you way over the next week, well, Rocky Ponds for a couple of days, and then Townsville. Will poke my nose in and checkout Eddy, if that's OK.
Yeh, that'd be good Chris. Give me a bell (or text)when you know when you're coming through.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 04, 2018, 03:40
Yeh, that'd be good Chris. Give me a bell (or text)when you know when you're coming through.

Roger.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on March 04, 2018, 08:57
The plan was to go for a short test run on the RGS since putting it back together.. well the short run turned into a run out to Grey Gums for brunch. Was good to see Kerry she seems to be getting on OK considering. Quite a few bikes there only one Laverda but

As the plan was short run fuel was in short supply in the tank it seems........being that one of the things that was done since last ride was replaced the BAP taps with real ones..... however with the good ole BAPS used to get around 40K on reserve........well about a mile from the Servo going up the hill well it was all over red rover.

A good samaritan pulled up, asked what the prob was told her out of fuel, she says wait here as only live round the corner... 5 mins later she's back with hubby and a gallon of fuel... turns out he was a motorcyclist also albeit a highly dangerous owner but hey its all good.

(https://u.cubeupload.com/Lavman/IMG0409.jpg)

(https://u.cubeupload.com/Lavman/IMG0411.jpg)

(https://u.cubeupload.com/Lavman/IMG0413.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on March 04, 2018, 08:59
great in Jarama? green.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 04, 2018, 21:01
Fired up the 880 yesterday, 120mm of scratched garage floor where it wanted to exit garage backwards on the centre stand. ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on March 04, 2018, 22:15
yeah my twins do that ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on March 05, 2018, 07:03
Get it off the centre stand before revving it. When mine was as good as new I fired it up on choke, had to run back into the house to grab something, and it had walked backwards half off the slab and fell over, putting an RSJ beam across the middle of the tank.
Good to hear you have got it happening again, and it can stay together for some fun miles now.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: levo on March 05, 2018, 07:10
nothing just sat & looked at it
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverdalothar on March 05, 2018, 07:51
I was quite surprised when I started my 750 SF (0) after the restoration again and it did NOT go backwards. I was at OCT who did the engine work (Piet in particular) and they were also very amazed how nice and clean it was running. I think if everything is right, they do not go backwards, but maybe if the crank is a bit out of true? Not sure what makes them go backwards, but mine defenitely did not. ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on March 05, 2018, 08:12
I was at OCT who did the engine work (Piet in particular) and they were also very amazed how nice and clean it was running. I think if everything is right, they do not go backwards, but maybe if the crank is a bit out of true? Not sure what makes them go backwards, but mine defenitely did not. ;)

Chris's crank is 90 degrees out of phase Lothar and engine is a lot smoother than a standard crank


Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 05, 2018, 08:32
Doesn’t go backwards at idle, just at vroom.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on March 05, 2018, 08:34
Quite normal for them to drift back when revved ,not on tick over as Chris says.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on March 05, 2018, 09:52
A stock SF1/2/3 will wander a bit when revved, a GT/GTL with the heavy crank will do less so.  An SFC will squirm its way across the whole yard when given a fistfull... almost to point where it topples from the stand! ;D

The lighter the crank, the more obviuos the rocking couple induced by the cylinder centre distance/crank length.  Worn/crooked cranks are more likely to move the bike on its stand at idle rpm.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on March 11, 2018, 08:08
You meet the nicest people on Laverdas!

Since we happened to be in Brisbane for the day - invited Red, Max and Mark for a spot of lunch onboard the QM2. Shame about the rain, but a real pleasure to meet such lovely folks and talk about bikes.

I got some shiny new carbs hand delivered into the bargain, so that gives me a nice desk ornament for the next couple of months and something to tinker with as soon as I get home...

Next stop Airlie Beach on the 13th, Shajota!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: markQLD on March 11, 2018, 10:51
You meet the nicest people on Laverdas!
+1
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10581%2FQM2-Brisbane.JPG&hash=12ca53e7e4dc854798a93479fb4c9ac8)

Thanks Alex for the unique tour of the Queen Mary 2
A terrific afternoon, despite the weather, and 'twas something special for this bloke from da cane fields   (bigthumb)
Safe travels
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: bevelman on March 11, 2018, 12:27
and the boss has 63 on as well!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on March 11, 2018, 17:03
careful Alex, Red will have that dinghy running on Miks and a Redax ignition in no time :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 11, 2018, 18:56
Finished of my foot peg mounts yesterday, now I just need a brake line made.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Nat Magee on March 11, 2018, 20:04
Put new tyres on the SF3, bloody tight fit.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on March 11, 2018, 22:26
You meet the nicest people on Laverdas!
Since we happened to be in Brisbane for the day - invited Red, Max and Mark for a spot of lunch onboard the QM2. Shame about the rain, but a real pleasure to meet such lovely folks and talk about bikes.

one of the best parts of owning Laverda's for many years has been the ability to meet fellow owners from all around the world and from within Australia who share a common love of the brand
owning a Laverda is more than just owning a bike, you get to experience a shared Brotherhood that is so special to the marque itself
due to my past profession where I had the opportunity to travel the world punching holes in the ground looking for more fuel for our bikes Max and I have meet numerous owners worldwide and every time the meeting has been great
and the opportunity to meet fellow owners is ongoing

so yesterday Max, Mark and myself were invited on board the Queen Mary 2 to meet up with Alex and to check out his oversized Tinny
very impressive, we have never been on board a cruise liner before so was an experience to say the least

many thanks Alex for the invite, we all very much enjoyed the visit and meeting up with yourself
enjoy the rest of your work rotation, can think of thousands of worse jobs than you have that is for sure

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4772/38944811910_cd2458efc1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22kqkLj)QM2 (https://flic.kr/p/22kqkLj)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4796/40755062911_573a436f97_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/256omjt)props (https://flic.kr/p/256omjt)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on March 11, 2018, 22:52
great pics and wow factor I bet!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on March 12, 2018, 03:34
I thought it was frowned upon to take shark fins. Drying them on the deck for the Chinese market?  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on March 12, 2018, 06:50
Yes those cruise ships are something out of this world aren´t they. Interesting to see their spare prop blades displayed as features on deck.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 12, 2018, 07:14
Yes those cruise ships are something out of this world aren´t they. Interesting to see their spare prop blades displayed as features on deck.

 ??? I thought they were just props, not proper props. Maybe I should have looked properly.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: drikko on March 12, 2018, 10:33
??? I thought they were just props, not proper props. Maybe I should have looked properly.

Why isn't there a faceplant emoji here????
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on March 12, 2018, 11:14
??? I thought they were just props, not proper props. Maybe I should have looked properly.

Come in spinner  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on March 12, 2018, 11:20
We like to call him gilligan...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on March 12, 2018, 22:05
??? I thought they were just props, not proper props. Maybe I should have looked properly.

He that would pun would pick a pocket  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on March 13, 2018, 06:32
Another knockout day sailing up the Queensland coast. Thanks to shajota for a tour of Airlie and the surrounds, slap up lunch and a look in the garage. I can tick off an American Eagle and a series 2 Jota in my spotters guide.

Next stop Darwin!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: a14rgs on March 13, 2018, 08:31
Alex, it's fantastic to see that you're experiencing the genuine global friendship that exists between Laverda owners.
During my travels, I'm fortunate to have spent great times with Laverda mates in Australia and NZ, as well as hosting them here in the UK.

It also puts strength behind the argument that UK beer is far better then the cold fizzy piss..... ;D :-* :laugh:

Alan :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on March 13, 2018, 08:47
Another knockout day sailing up the Queensland coast. Thanks to shajota for a tour of Airlie and the surrounds, slap up lunch and a look in the garage. I can tick off an American Eagle and a series 2 Jota in my spotters guide.

Next stop Darwin!
We met a Lav owner when up there last year  his name escapes me at the moment....bloody senior moment sorry.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on March 13, 2018, 08:53
Alex, it's fantastic to see that you're experiencing the genuine global friendship that exists between Laverda owners.
During my travels, I'm fortunate to have spent great times with Laverda mates in Australia and NZ, as well as hosting them here in the UK.

It also puts strength behind the argument that UK beer is far better then the cold fizzy piss..... ;D :-* :laugh:

Alan :)

Red had a Stella onboard the other day and seemed taken aback! Mark tried something out of a bottle.

Australian beer is as they say, like sex in a canoe ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on March 13, 2018, 09:19

It also puts strength behind the argument that UK beer is far better then the cold fizzy piss..... ;D :-* :laugh:

Alan :)

Each has its place. Couln't see myself enjoying anything other than a pint of best local bitter with lunch in an English country pub. But then that would not be a particularly enjoyable thirst quencher after a days work out in the Oz sun at over 40 deg C.

Oh, and most so called imported beers here are made to a formula by the big end of town locally and are rubbish compared to the genuine article. I support one of the few remaining family owned breweries in the country - Coopers, unless it is unavailable.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on March 13, 2018, 09:23

Next stop Darwin!

Get a Darwin stubby into your black guts. Will do you the world of good something.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on March 13, 2018, 09:34
Get a Darwin stubby into your black guts. Will do you the world of good something.
Good luck finding one these days.. well full and unopened that is  :D
NT draught was crap anyways, we used to drink VB in cans or Emu export as it was a genuine 5%...oh thats right tha'ts out of production too.
At least VB is still going and cans get colder faster than girls blouse bottles  ;D

http://www.ntnews.com.au/business/carlton-and-united-breweries-stops-regular-production-of-nt-draught/news-story/ffa04338eac2132309d673f94c0c517e (http://www.ntnews.com.au/business/carlton-and-united-breweries-stops-regular-production-of-nt-draught/news-story/ffa04338eac2132309d673f94c0c517e)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on March 13, 2018, 10:33
Found Alex walking up the gangplank proudly wearing a (now favourite) CLQ shirt :o ;D
Had to leave his tinny double parked a few miles off shore, might be able to just make it out:-
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2FAlex%2520and%2520QM2.jpg&hash=cdeeab735da6f3908b6cf736a6f449e6)

Good to meet you Alex.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on March 13, 2018, 11:03
COOPER'S PALE ALE, NECTAR OF THE GODS.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on March 13, 2018, 11:48
Emu export as it was a genuine 5%...oh thats right tha'ts out of production too.


Get up to speed. It doesn't begin and end on the east coast you know. Emu Export still made and available at liquor stores everywhere that matter. Wouldn't touch the stuff myself, especially out of cans. Real men drank Emu Bitter when I was growing up. The brewery staff even went out on strike when bloody Lion Nathan tried to change the recipe.

And VB - WTF is that shit?

Coopers Sparkling Ale out of glass please.

Oh, and forgot to say, Fosters still crank out Darwin Stubbies, but I don't know anyone in Australia that would drink that crap.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 13, 2018, 20:33
Lost my master cylinder brake light pressure switch, I had it in my hand a few days ago, and it’s just disappeared. The strange thing is, I had another’s one as well, MIA too.

As soon as I buy another one, both will turn up.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on March 15, 2018, 06:32
Good luck finding one these days.. well full and unopened that is  :D
NT draught was crap anyways, we used to drink VB in cans or Emu export as it was a genuine 5%...oh thats right tha'ts out of production too.
At least VB is still going and cans get colder faster than girls blouse bottles  ;D

I'll pop one in the fridge for you Brett  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on March 15, 2018, 10:48
Sex anywhere in good as far as I'm concerned
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on March 15, 2018, 13:24
Sex anywhere in good as far as I'm concerned
Best stay out of jail then ... :o :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 15, 2018, 18:36
Fitted up rear brake line yesterday, new pressure switch and banjos as well.

Now I just have to make another 5mm upside down calliper mount so I can bleed the system. Stupid bleed nipple position on the calliper means I have to bleed it upside down. Tomorrow Is D day for first test ride with R/H gear change  :-\
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: stevepm2011 on March 15, 2018, 19:09
2nd ride of 2018
It was a nice dry morning, albeit a bit chilly at 3C, so I took the Jota 120 to the local roadworthiness inspection shop, as it‘s two years were up.
The inspector spent more time telling me how gorgeous it is than he did testing it  :D
A guy turned up on a Harley bobber type thing, was also very complimentary.
On the way home along the empty county roads, I gave it beans for a couple of minutes. The darn thing still goes very well!
A good start to the day.

Next week is the Jota 180‘s turn....
Hopefully the same result.

Steve
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on March 15, 2018, 21:04
2nd ride of 2018
It was a nice dry morning, albeit a bit chilly at 3C, so I took the Jota 120 to the local roadworthiness inspection shop, as it‘s two years were up.
The inspector spent more time telling me how gorgeous it is than he did testing it  :D
A guy turned up on a Harley bobber type thing, was also very complimentary.
On the way home along the empty county roads, I gave it beans for a couple of minutes. The darn thing still goes very well!
A good start to the day.

Next week is the Jota 180‘s turn....
Hopefully the same result.

Steve

Winter returning, snow forecast next week.  You fancying a run in the snow Steve? ;D

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: stevepm2011 on March 15, 2018, 21:22
Studded tyres, Piet ;D ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on March 15, 2018, 22:55
Fitted up rear brake line yesterday, new pressure switch and banjos as well.

Now I just have to make another 5mm upside down calliper mount so I can bleed the system. Stupid bleed nipple position on the calliper means I have to bleed it upside down. Tomorrow Is D day for first test ride with R/H gear change  :-\
I just remove the caliper and have it sit on a loose rotor (or anything wide enough to keep the pads apart). Bleed, refit - job done. You ready to register then, CK? Noise meter check?

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 15, 2018, 23:18
I just remove the caliper and have it sit on a loose rotor (or anything wide enough to keep the pads apart). Bleed, refit - job done. You ready to register then, CK? Noise meter check?

I had a special block I made up, but have misplaced it in our move.
Already regoed 12 months ago, to the day almost........... noise check at Roadworthy was .......... errr, well let's just say the RWC guy was very nice to deal with.  ;)
And we don't have annual retests in Qld.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: bevelman on March 16, 2018, 08:47
pleasant day at redax headquarters prepping the race bike for mt gambier
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 16, 2018, 21:10
Fitted up rear brake line yesterday, new pressure switch and banjos as well.

Now I just have to make another 5mm upside down calliper mount so I can bleed the system.

Knocked off work early, raced home and spent two hours trying to bleed brake ...... frustrated, I went had dinner and drew master cylinder on a whiteboard.

A few reds with my father in-law, and we concluded the one of the fluid ports is blocked.  How that happens whilst the part was in storage l don’t know, but in any case, now I have another job to do FFS.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on March 17, 2018, 07:43
Didn't do a lot with any of mine today but well being that its Saint Patrick's day and all had a few Murphy's this evening whilst catching up with an ole mate who had dropped round once the other Lav boys had left ...........

(https://u.cubeupload.com/Lavman/stpaddysday.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on March 17, 2018, 07:53
👍
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 17, 2018, 20:49
Got to the bottom of brake bleeding issue, buggered seal.  :(
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 17, 2018, 21:00
had a few Murphy's this evening whilst catching up with an ole mate who had dropped round once the other Lav boys had left ...........

He must have been waiting around the corner, chowing down on one of those nice hamburgers the fish and chip shop makes, until the riff raff left.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on March 18, 2018, 00:24
Got to the bottom of brake bleeding issue, buggered seal.  :(

I knew you were obsessed with sex Chris, but buggering seals goes beyond what I'd have expected from you. I've a good mind to report you to the RSPCA.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on March 18, 2018, 02:47
Who blew the seal in the first place, eh?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on March 18, 2018, 07:55
no no its just ice cream..... :D :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on March 18, 2018, 21:38
Fitted an air box and air filter to the AE yesterday.
Looks like a bit of an effort to do regular maintenance .... !!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: stevepm2011 on March 19, 2018, 20:50
Put the orange Jota Series 2 up on the bike lift, and prepared it for the TueV (MOT, WOF...)
All good, except a suspect fuel tap, so ordered a new one.
And the LH rear indicator bulb was blown.
Replaced the bulb, still nothing. Dud bulb. Replaced it again, still nothing. The third bulb was OK.
Why the hell do I collect dud indicator bulbs???
Fitted a Li- ion battery. Cranks like crazy!
The bike started and ran perfectly, nice even tickover.
Now all I need is the weather to warm up.....

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on March 20, 2018, 10:21
fitted TOG up with the repaired and re-polished exhaust, had the front wheel out because the mudguard bolts have touched the tyre, why? bolts (fork to bracket) were loose and the guard had dropped on the slotted brackets, so re-polished the guard, refitted it and the wheel (temporarily) with the guard bolts tightish, adjusted the guard, removed the wheel, and belted the bolts up tight, took a soft pad to the bolt protrusions (bracket to guard) and ground them off, just for good measure, then re-polished the forks, calliper brackets (ex Red still ahead of forks) and all associated bits and reinstalled the wheel. Checked battery voltage, still good after 3 months of idleness, not far off now.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on March 20, 2018, 11:21
Header should stay nice n shiney where that Lockwire rubs across it   :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: SimonR501 on March 20, 2018, 11:52
Header should stay nice n shiney where that Lockwire rubs across it   :o

One solution would be to drill a small hole in one of the header clamp fins and feed lockwire both ways to each nut - problem solvered!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on March 20, 2018, 18:57
its not a problem, not really needed anyway, and tight enough not to fret or rub, I just don't like losing a specially made part which has proved a boon over 20 odd years, mainly in keeping the studs from rusting where exposed and the extra length means that can be wired easily, nice to know they stay put. Might even be a bit of extra cooling for the exhaust valve!
You would probably say the same about the front wheel spindle nut, but maybe not the calliper bolts, but who cares, not I.
two more pics and that's your lot for 2018.
two more jobs to do, one you cant see, needs new rear tyre, and the other you can, does anyone spot it???????
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on March 20, 2018, 19:05
good for catching pheasants,and cooking them  en route  ;)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on March 20, 2018, 19:26
Aye, turn your fucking calipers round the RIGHT way!!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on March 20, 2018, 21:50
Agree with Grant, designed to be behind the forks, but this has been mentioned before...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on March 21, 2018, 16:23
Fitting a modern ignition system..I know you have one!😁
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on March 21, 2018, 22:00
Oiling those unsightly rusty disc rotors ... great for getting rid of brake squeal as well  :-*
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 22, 2018, 05:31
Finally got my rear brake bled ............ epic bullshit. Anyhow, went to test rear brake light, as I had to fit a new hydraulic switch ............. bat flattery  ::)

Now I have to find a mini leak to earth, blaming alternator again (without knowing for sure). Will check the circuit again tonight.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on March 22, 2018, 23:33
bat flattery

Fruit bats are rather cute
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on March 23, 2018, 01:56
Fruit bats are rather cute

And taste good.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on March 23, 2018, 02:14
Fruit bats are rather cute

Post of the week, Cam..

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 24, 2018, 20:28
Spent all morning trying to find a miniscule leak to earth ........ can’t find it for the life of me. Fitted battery isolator/anti theft switch.

Raised needles to second lowest notch and took bike for a test ride. Resulting in midrange flat spot almost gone, but runs much better with choke slightly on, right through the low, mid and higher rev ranges. Good enough to get it on a dyno now.

New foot rests and controls are so much more comfortable, and, using the right hand gear change ...... not as bad as I thought, dabbed rear brake a couple of times, wanting to drop down a gear, I suppose I’ll get the hang of it.

It’s still loud. It attracts attention while riding and while I was at the at fuel station filling tank and tyres, I was swamped with people wanting to know about it.

All up, a good day playing Laverda.  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on March 25, 2018, 00:14
Spent all morning trying to find a miniscule leak to earth ........ can’t find it for the life of me

Possibly the RR. Un-plug it and see if the leak disappears.

Your battery isolator will fix it in the meantime.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 25, 2018, 02:39
Possibly the RR. Un-plug it and see if the leak disappears.

Your battery isolator will fix it in the meantime.

Was my thought too Cam. Oddly, I put my metre on it, zilch. The tried it again, a few minutes later, bingo a couple of .ohms ....... test again...... zilch.  ???
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: wdietz186 on March 25, 2018, 02:54
Is there a clock in the circuit? They draw every few minutes. The meter should be on millivolts to detect a draw.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on March 25, 2018, 03:44
Was my thought too Cam. Oddly, I put my metre on it, zilch. The tried it again, a few minutes later, bingo a couple of .ohms ....... test again...... zilch.  ???

Better to test for current rather than ohms. With the ignition off, disconnect the big red wire  from the RR to the battery positive terminal and put your meter in series between them to complete the circuit. Select the highest Amp scale (for safety) and if you get no reading, switch to lower scales until you get a reading. If you don't get anything on the lowest milliamp scale, it's OK. If the RR had more than one +12V connection (some have a voltage sense wire) check that too.

Note: I've seen quite a few multimeters that don't work on the current scale, which usually means someone has overloaded it and blown a fuse. A zero reading doesn't necessarily mean zero current.

It's a good idea to check that your meter is working properly by testing it on something like a globe. A 21W indicator globe should read about 1.75A, which is fine to test the 10A scale. But most multimeters have separate protection for the 10A scale and the milliamp scales, so it's a good idea to test both. You can test the mA scale with a 3W dash lamp which should draw around 250mA
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 25, 2018, 05:29
Is there a clock in the circuit?

Bingo, yes there is, in the digital speedo. I will make that WAS.
Thanks.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on March 25, 2018, 10:58
Well today I took my 77 Jota out for her maiden ride.
I bought this particular bike late last year as it was advertised as an opportunity to wreck or restore project, well there was no way I would like to see this bike wrecked by me or anybody so I took a punt and followed through with a period appropriate restoration.
This bike had been exposed to a few years of sea spray from the Queensland coast and had really deteriorated badly.
The owner told me he had spent heaps on the engine so I hoped that the poor quality plugs in the ports had worked in keeping any moisture and salt out of the engine, from what I saw in the cases I did remove from the engine there was no visible deterioration.
Anyway today I had the engine running for a few hours and apart from a slightly noisy clutch that engine is a ripper not quite a zippy as my Mikuni fuelled 81 Jota but still a delightfully strong 1970s bike with stacks of character and personality.   
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on March 25, 2018, 11:16
About time you had a series 1 Jota  :P well done looks good just dont mention the stripe on the tank shhh mums the word ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on March 25, 2018, 12:11
Nice work Maurice that is a great looking bike and to bring it back from the abyss is a huge credit to you.
Love it. :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on March 25, 2018, 17:04
Maurice looks great in that livery,   

Little early spin on the 3C
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 25, 2018, 21:30
Reminds me of my first Laverda :'(
Same paint scheme. Nice work Maurice
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on March 25, 2018, 22:53
Shaun I can see those 750s sitting at home a lot more since that beautiful 3C has entered your stable.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on March 25, 2018, 22:57
Nice house Shaun, or should I say Estate, didn't know you have done that well for yourself.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on March 25, 2018, 23:01
Shaun I can see those 750s sitting at home a lot more since that beautiful 3C has entered your stable.

ha ha Off to France on the GT gotta be fair, though i might mix up the white bikes ;D ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on March 25, 2018, 23:02
Nice house Shaun, or should I say Estate, didn't know you have done that well for yourself.

Bit small now Lee , running out of garage space   :D :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 25, 2018, 23:09
Lemon, why has your bike got 3 front brake lines?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on March 25, 2018, 23:11
Got a different master on at the moment, original PS15 and rubber lines , one of the next jobbies, mind you this one works well!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 26, 2018, 06:43
Ordered correct needles and atomiser tubes from Sydney, and booked bike in for dyno tune Tuesday week. 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: breganzane on March 26, 2018, 12:07
Ordered correct needles and atomiser tubes from Sydney, and booked bike in for dyno tune Tuesday week. 8)

Should be ready for the run down to Auto Italia then Chris!?
 ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on March 26, 2018, 16:27
changed the self colour countersunk cap screws fixing the tank badges onto the enlarged round badge Jolta tank, painted in correct TS colours and fitted to TOG for stainless, slotted, raised, countersunk, screws, just to stop NICKDAV7c nagging me every time he sees the bike, and he with blue hoses on his oil cooler!!!
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on March 26, 2018, 17:19
Jolta, is that an electric Laverda?¿?¿?¿
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Andy on March 26, 2018, 19:18
 :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 26, 2018, 19:32
Should be ready for the run down to Auto Italia then Chris!?
 ;D

Maybe so.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on March 26, 2018, 19:49
Giving POP a bit of a makeover at the moment.
Freshening it up and also changing the focus a wee bit.
The enlarged tank should be back here next week, hopefully in time for the Scottish bike show.
Hoping to get another 5 litres capacity out of it, and the vented flush filler cap (off an R6) will solve issues I had with the Newton flush cap currently on it.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4672/25417309457_065a367bef_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EJ3mzp)IMG-20180215-WA0005 (https://flic.kr/p/EJ3mzp) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/791/40325272234_f409eb048c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24rpywo)IMG-20180305-WA0000 (https://flic.kr/p/24rpywo) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/822/39224654940_1393ec293c_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22L9Bm9)IMG-20180326-WA0000 (https://flic.kr/p/22L9Bm9) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on March 26, 2018, 19:55
Interesting seeing the in progress photos and then the finished product  (congrats) looks good
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: harpmeister on March 26, 2018, 20:07
Lovely workmanship goes to show that there is still some craftsmen about if you know where to look, even the wife was impressed.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on March 26, 2018, 20:14
beautiful job, I think your proportions are spot on, fantastic color too
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on March 26, 2018, 20:18
The base is standard, just moved the sides more vertical and raised the roof a bit. Hopefully it will look subtle enough and not throw proportions out of kilter.
I'm eventually going to change the seat and mudguards as the standard vibe will be fulfilled by the 007 1200.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sonomalaverda on March 26, 2018, 20:31
Grant, it looks stunning. You know I like that colour too!

ALEX
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on March 26, 2018, 20:39
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/802/40326141394_1de9011e65_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24ru1TU)2015-12-21 16.02.38 (https://flic.kr/p/24ru1TU) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/868/27163683508_209c69dfce_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HomYJQ)P3011790 (https://flic.kr/p/HomYJQ) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 26, 2018, 21:17
Stop it Grant, your handiwork is giving me an hard-on. Superb.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on March 26, 2018, 21:30
Err, do you want to re-phrase that?¿?¿?¿
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on March 26, 2018, 22:01
Killed it... >:(

Bad day at the office for me at Paul Ricard.  Works SFC750 engine threw a rod and smashed the unique cases big time.  :o

We were warned... :(

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on March 26, 2018, 22:16
You must be gutted, hope your laser welder bloke can bring it back. Had some experience with these catastrophic failures, leaves a sour taste in your mouth especially when you think you have done all you can to AVOID THEM.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on March 26, 2018, 22:23
Beautiful work on the tank Grant, I have a Ducati flush cap on mine and a Newington bolt on breather. The fuel has crept under the breather and bubbled the paint on mine, bloody annoying.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on March 26, 2018, 23:26
Killed it... >:(

Bad day at the office for me at Paul Ricard.  Works SFC750 engine threw a rod and smashed the unique cases big time.  :o

We were warned... :(

piet
Shaezer, Piet!!  :o :o :o :o :o   :-\
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 26, 2018, 23:41
Killed it... >:(

Bad day at the office for me at Paul Ricard.  Works SFC750 engine threw a rod and smashed the unique cases big time.  :o

We were warned... :(

piet

 :( FFS ............... you said it might be a bit suss, almost exactly 12 months ago to the week.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on March 27, 2018, 00:52
 :(
Terrible news Piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on March 27, 2018, 00:57
Piet, I’m really sorry to hear the news - can the cases be fixed in today’s world?

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on March 27, 2018, 01:18
I cannot remember if the cases were Magnesium or Electa, or std aluminium
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on March 27, 2018, 01:36
Shit! Very sorry to hear that Piet.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on March 27, 2018, 02:15
Great tank, beautiful work.

And then followed by news of Piets troubles. Really sorry to hear that news. Hope it is repairable.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: breganzane on March 27, 2018, 03:42
Killed it... >:(
Bad day at the office for me at Paul Ricard.  Works SFC750 engine threw a rod and smashed the unique cases big time.  :o
We were warned... :(
piet

Oh no!  There goes a piece (several pieces?) of history, bummer.
There is a significant incentive to repair, since they are impossible to replace.
It will just add some extra colour to the bike's interesting past...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: henrywillms on March 27, 2018, 05:10
A case of give me the good news first.....lovely job on the tank , and then the bad news....real bad...other than an accident where the rider gets hurt, a broken crankcase  is  next in line.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on March 27, 2018, 07:56
Looks repairable at first glance.  I'll be able ti assess the damage when the bike returns to the workshop this week, pics will follow.  Be prepared for a horror movie preview... ;D

I certainly am gutted, feel like I accidently shot the last of a species.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on March 27, 2018, 08:05
Looks repairable at first glance.  I'll be able ti assess the damage when the bike returns to the workshop this week, pics will follow.  Be prepared for a horror movie preview... ;D

I certainly am gutted, feel like I accidently shot the last of a species.

piet

I wish you every success with saving the crankcases, Piet.

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on March 27, 2018, 08:08

I certainly am gutted, feel like I accidently shot the last of a species.

piet

The last male northern white rhino was euthanased last week saving you the trouble of shooting it.   :( :( >:(
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on March 27, 2018, 08:13
Rotten news, Piet.
Were you riding it?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: tom3c75 on March 27, 2018, 10:19
Ouch!  Sorry to read about that Piet.
That's the second Laverda that I'm aware of in the last two days to throw a rod.
I'm sure, with your skills and resources, it will come right.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: VanguardontheLav on March 27, 2018, 18:48
That's the second Laverda that I'm aware of in the last two days to throw a rod.

I'm guessing mine was the other one Tom... For those of you not on Facebook...

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/798/41024545181_eb12b0b434_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25vcw1v)

--
Dick
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on March 27, 2018, 19:17
What"s your plan Dick? , really awful news.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on March 27, 2018, 20:09
Rotten news, Piet.
Were you riding it?

Yep.  My first Lav rod... not proud of that.  Quite pissed actually. >:(

Happened at the end of the Mistral straight, which was interrupted by a chicane 2/3s of the way, so a long way from Vmax.  Not sure if I had already gone from the throttle, pretty close to the 100m mark when it went bang.  Was taking it easy, so possibly preparing to brake.  It was the final lap of the afternoon and I was due to enter the pits after the next couple of corners.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: MarnixSFC on March 27, 2018, 21:34
That’s shit Piet. Another works 73 SFC crank threw a rod, assume the original (tooj slim rods were still in there?

Marnix
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on March 27, 2018, 21:47
Yep. 

Well, you did warn us...  Going to be a bugger of a job to fix, already looking for a knackered donor crankcase!  A fist-sized chunk missing from the front left side and a small vent stamped through behind the barrel.  Didn't find much at trackside, only one quite large bit.  A lot of oil though.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: MarnixSFC on March 27, 2018, 21:53
Hate to be proven right in this case... Really sorry to hear...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on March 27, 2018, 22:44
That’s shit Piet. Another works 73 SFC crank threw a rod, assume the original (too slim rods were still in there?

Marnix
Did the works SFCs run a narrower rod than the 'standard' SFC rod (similar to a triple rod, but polished)?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on March 27, 2018, 23:30
Did the works SFCs run a narrower rod than the 'standard' SFC rod (similar to a triple rod, but polished)?

Completely different.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 28, 2018, 05:39
Well, you did warn us...  Going to be a bugger of a job to fix,
piet

There's a Forum member that has something apt on their signature: If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.  ;)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on March 28, 2018, 06:40
There's a Forum member that has something apt on their signature: If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.  ;)

Reminds me of the old Easy Rider Magazine maxim:- "If you can't fix it, fuck it!"
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: MarnixSFC on March 28, 2018, 08:19
Did the works SFCs run a narrower rod than the 'standard' SFC rod (similar to a triple rod, but polished)?

Only in 1973 they used slimmer rods than the ones you mention. They were slim and shot peened. The 5 experimental racers that they built in 1973 had these. Now I'm the only one left with a complete running 1973 works engine... Had a narrow escape at Spa when a piston seized, scared me shitless.

Marnix
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Ventodue on March 28, 2018, 08:31
Damn, Piet.  I share your pain.  Bum, bum, bum, bum ...  :'(

You know, every time I've had something let go on track, it's always been on the final lap.  So I've decided not to do final laps no more ...  ???

(P.s  Sorry to have missed you at Castellet.  Couldn't get over til the Sunday, unfortunately.)

Craig
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on March 28, 2018, 08:41
So was my luck that my SFC crank did so many hard racing miles and luckily had non-works normal rods, or is my luck that I now fitted Carrillos? Fortunately I didn’t find out.
I’m sure you will have it back on track before too long Piet.
Otherwise by all accounts the meeting was a huge success.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Steph on March 28, 2018, 08:57
I certainly am gutted, feel like I accidently shot the last of a species.

Really sad and sorry to read this  :(
It's really a shame Piet
Wish you the best for the repairs..

S.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on March 28, 2018, 16:11
I feel your pain Piet, I feel your pain,
you are probably one of the best qualified if not THE BEST qualified spanner man in the world to get this rare works  SFC  back and running again. Anyone can rebuild almost anything and there are plenty of known SFC experts around, but when crank cases have "grenaded" and rods twisted and snapped like baler twine????  that becomes a different story,My best wishes go to you for the work ahead,

then again you could just wop a 1200 bandit engine in there instead!

CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Rob on March 28, 2018, 17:49
What horrible news, Piet.  I wondered what had happened to you when I couldn't find you on Sunday. 

Thanks for taking the time on Friday to tell me about the bike and show me all the photos of your extraordinary build last year - makes your pain all the more real, especially as you mentioned those lightweight rods that had obviously lasted fine until now.

For those who haven't been lucky enough to see this special bike in the flesh, a couple of snaps from Le Castellet

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbradburyonline.com%2Fkoken%2Fstorage%2Fcache%2Fimages%2F000%2F154%2FP1000120%2Cmedium_large.1522255504.JPG&hash=ebed74ff9746ea74dffebdb05d0bba62)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbradburyonline.com%2Fkoken%2Fstorage%2Fcache%2Fimages%2F000%2F153%2FP1000121%2Cmedium_large.1522255474.JPG&hash=30bca79fbb74d420889f817c04ca8e6b)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on March 28, 2018, 19:29
Only in 1973 they used slimmer rods than the ones you mention. They were slim and shot peened. The 5 experimental racers that they built in 1973 had these. Now I'm the only one left with a complete running 1973 works engine... Had a narrow escape at Spa when a piston seized, scared me shitless.

Marnix

Our crank is quite different, but has/had the same rods.

I'll start a new thread for the horror pics and re-build. ;D

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on March 29, 2018, 19:55
What a beautiful racing machine, nice job Piet, sorry for your loss, sounds like your confident on a total repair.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on March 29, 2018, 20:13
What a beautiful racing machine, nice job Piet, sorry for your loss, sounds like your confident on a total repair.

Not a loss mate, just a new challenge... ;D

Others have been through worse and managed OK.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 29, 2018, 21:08
Got my new standard needles and tubes, thanks for the sizes Marty, in the mail from Gowanlocks. I’ll throw those in today, and should be ready for dyno tune Tuesday  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on March 29, 2018, 23:15
Not a loss mate, just a new challenge... ;D

Others have been through worse and managed OK.

piet
    I like the positive attitude, get after it! ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on March 30, 2018, 05:44
Not a loss mate, just a new challenge... ;D

Others have been through worse and managed OK.

piet

nice work Piet, we have a saying in our workshop, "its all about the recovery" we all make mistakes and bad stuff happens but its how you make it good again thats the most important.
We also have another saying up on the wall, hope this puts a smile on your face. :D



Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 30, 2018, 06:29
 :o It’s everywhere!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on March 30, 2018, 06:30
nice work Piet, we have a saying in our workshop, "its all about the recovery" we all make mistakes and bad stuff happens but its how you make it good again thats the most important.
We also have another saying up on the wall, hope this puts a smile on your face. :D

Don't let Ron see that sign about Neil Young.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on March 30, 2018, 06:32
Don't let Ron see that sign about Neil Young.

 :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sonomalaverda on March 30, 2018, 07:52
Yep, me too on the final lap once at Kyalami. Concentration goes or you say it's the last lap, I'll go for it, I suppose ( rider error in my case ).
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on March 30, 2018, 08:26
nice work Piet, we have a saying in our workshop, "its all about the recovery" we all make mistakes and bad stuff happens but its how you make it good again thats the most important.
We also have another saying up on the wall, hope this puts a smile on your face. :D

So you get a boat in for repair every decade or so?  :-*
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on March 30, 2018, 08:28
Was that an intentional pun there Davo with “decade”?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on March 30, 2018, 22:28
So you get a boat in for repair every decade or so?  :-*

Sometimes it feels like that, one of our apprentices came up with that sign when we were going through a real Neil stage on the playlist, and the pun is pretty accurate too :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on March 31, 2018, 18:12
Not a loss mate, just a new challenge... ;D

Others have been through worse and managed OK.

piet
Would have just meant a bit longer pitstop back in the day!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on March 31, 2018, 20:14
Would have just meant a bit longer pitstop back in the day!

Nah... I think regulations required to keep the cases for the duration of a race, all internals could be swapped though.

Curing time of JB-Weld would mean a serious drop of positions.  ;D  Would probably be best to call it a day.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on March 31, 2018, 22:14
Sometimes it feels like that, one of our apprentices came up with that sign when we were going through a real Neil stage on the playlist, and the pun is pretty accurate too :)

I’ll bring my Hartley TS18 in for a cabin respray next week then..

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: stevepm2011 on April 02, 2018, 18:10
Being grounded due to a buggered shoulder, I decided to have a go at the Jota Series 2 maintenance.

New fuel taps, flushed the tank out. Quite a bit of rust, will need to line it at the next opportunity.

Replaced the Todd-Boyer ignition with a Witt DMC 2. The Todd-Boyer was still working fine (Phil  ;D) but I was concerned about it packing up away from home. With the Witt I can carry spares - all my bikes have them.
Gratifyingly, it started the moment I hit the button, and the strobe showed the maximum advance to be exactly on the 32 degrees BTDC mark.

Fitted a new Li-Ion battery. Cranks incredibly well, weighs nothing.

Now all I need is to get the shoulder fixed...

Steve

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: breganzane on April 03, 2018, 00:45
Nah... I think regulations required to keep the cases for the duration of a race, all internals could be swapped though.

Curing time of JB-Weld would mean a serious drop of positions.  ;D  Would probably be best to call it a day.
piet

I wonder what the biggest repair was that was ever done during their racing heyday?  I think I recall stories of heads being off during the race, did they ever open the cases to do a gearbox repair or swap a crank?
Fascinating in contrast to these days when engines are sealed and for example in motogp they have had a limit of as little as 5 engines for a whole season!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on April 03, 2018, 01:01
Steve,

There was a little episode concerning a v.Dijk Team Zane Formula in a 24 Heures du Liege around 2000.  Roger reported a spare engine was stripped and many of the internals were installed in the race engine.  Whole process took a couple of hours, allegedly the cases were still warm when re-installed. ;D  I'll quiz Roger for details, he was on re-fuelling duty and was directly involved.  Not sure if it was crank or gearbox issues that was the cause.  Perhaps Marnix knows more.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on April 03, 2018, 01:20
Hardest working pit crew I ever saw was Stan and Steve Bayliss at Symmons Plains Raceway back in the 70s.  They were competing in two sidecar classes (600cc and unlimited I think) with the one outfit and two Honda SOHC 4 engines of different capacities. They had to fit the appropriate sized engine for each race. There were two races for each class on both Saturday and Sunday. 8 races in all with an engine swap between each one. That's 7 engine swaps for the weekend. Not to mention tyre changes and other maintenance. At one stage while Stan was wrestling a hot engine out of the outfit I asked him if he'd mind if I took a photo. All he said was "Fuck off!"  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on April 03, 2018, 03:12
At one stage while Stan was wrestling a hot engine out of the outfit I asked him if he'd mind if I took a photo. All he said was "Fuck off!"  :D
Were you surprised, Cam??!! 
Lucky he didn't throw a 12 inch shifter at you!  :-*
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on April 03, 2018, 06:06
Were you surprised, Cam??!! 

Probably not, most people say that to him anyways.  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: SimonR501 on April 03, 2018, 06:44
At one stage while Stan was wrestling a hot engine out of the outfit I asked him if he'd mind if I took a photo. All he said was "Fuck off!"  :D
At least he took time out to pass on some important information.  Was that a 'Yes' or 'No' then?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on April 03, 2018, 10:56
I remember Slaters doing a head change on an SFC mid race, cant recall when or where though!, pretty sure it was continental
Zandvoort?   also remember a tyre change on a triple with alloy wheels, and yes I do mean tyre not wheel and tyre, for some reason the spare had already been used, that was at Snetterton in a 6 hour race. Changing a tyre on alloy wheels is something that I have never achieved without the wheel being bolted into a tyre changing machine, so respect there.

I also remember them sending an SFC from the IOM, back to their mainland base (Collington) so that Graham Binnion could cut and re-weld the headstock to change the steering angle, and then back to the IOM and they didn't miss practise or racing! I think that bike got a replacement frame later and now lives in Australia.

CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on April 03, 2018, 14:28
Big box arrived from Spain today.
Now I can find out how much extra capacity it has.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/885/40494466274_8324ce9b07_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24GmJ21)2018-04-03 12.35.29 (https://flic.kr/p/24GmJ21) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/891/40312582055_7d73bf34dd_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24qhwbc)2018-04-03 13.14.41 (https://flic.kr/p/24qhwbc) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/810/41208964241_b094194ffa_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25MuHnt)2018-04-03 12.57.18 (https://flic.kr/p/25MuHnt) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Gerald on April 03, 2018, 17:22
Nice  (bigthumb) you sent the tank and sidepanels to Spain? no decent, affordable place in Scotland?

Regards Gerald
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on April 03, 2018, 17:31
Decent and affordable, which one do you want?¿?¿

I sent it to my previous painter in Spain as I saw his efforts in increasing tank capacity when I lived there.
Decent AND affordable too.  8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on April 04, 2018, 10:30
I pay my painter £140 cash for tank and side panels and any minor repairs needed to either.He wins prizes for Scooters,which are mainly paint!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on April 04, 2018, 11:09
That's reasonable!

The orange bodywork alone for the series 2 I have for sale was over 1000GBP.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on April 04, 2018, 11:13
Send them down here !

  My previous guy in Bromsgrove did the TS silver and put on the red pinstripes from copying an original PANEL for £400.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on April 04, 2018, 17:01
My front  orange mudguard alone,though 3 parts and needed blasting, was £100
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on April 04, 2018, 17:12
it's who you know Nick  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on April 04, 2018, 21:51
ah yes nick, but did you know that painter was sacked by his dad for puking and shitting at the same time in a customers finished car, while it cooked in the paint oven and he had fallen into a semi comatose state?
he is now close to destitute living in an unsanitised camper that you or I would not go closer than 20 yards from, and its in a farm yard which is that of a milking herd, and the shit is literally scraped up every day by tractor, around his camper, I can smell the pong when driving by and I don't mean the cow shit.

that folks, is what class A can do to you.

you are very lucky to have got it back Nicko
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on April 05, 2018, 07:46
Bloody hell! Sorry to hear that Clem..it did take a year btw..Hope he gets some help..and wants it.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on April 05, 2018, 15:28
The black decals arrived today.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/805/26381472987_780a489e2d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GceWNx)2018-04-05 11.03.44 (https://flic.kr/p/GceWNx) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on April 07, 2018, 02:45
Rear end fun (there's your 'in' for some toilet talk, Chris  :-*) - getting bike #2 ready for the triumph legend rear wheel - bike will be made up from spare parts and I needed chain adjusters, so wy not waste countless hours I don't have making some blingo alloy ones??!!  :-X
Ss some long hours on the Emco (Compact Eight). It's not a big lathe and the milling is total mother-of-invention stuff, using old vertical slides and a Myford dividing head bolted on to the crossbed (sometimes precariously!) of the little Emco. Never been trained as a machinist, so important things like cutting speeds and feed rates (all manual) have to be learnt through trial and error - and the lathe bed isn't solid the way it would be if it were a dedicated mill bed, so vibration and chatter can be a problemo.

The chainline on the Triumph hub was way too wide, so the cush bearing housing was narrowed and the bearing recess bored deeper; sprocket mounting face ditto, shorter studs, added thread.

Having trouble getting the pics in, even tho they have been resized to less than 200kb ???   :-\




Said chain adjusters in place. The disc that came with the hub was huge and heavy. Machined off the mounting stubs on the hub and had to machine angled flange that would mate with the angled mating flange on the new disc carrier (Yamaha 125 disc to be fitted). Tricky little mother of a job, this one!!

Rim (Akront 4.25x17) came with the wheel, which is why I bought it - but it saves me 2kg on the Kwaka Z1000 hub that's been on bike #1 for 30 years. Next job is to try and find a 38T 520 sprocket that will fit the 5-bolt triumph cush drive. might have to make an alloy carrier and bolt a sprocket to that.


Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on April 07, 2018, 02:46
Shaeze! What the fukk happened to my beautiful clear pic???  :-\
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on April 07, 2018, 02:48
Ignore last post - pic seems to have cleared up all by itself. Here's another ...

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on April 07, 2018, 02:49
other side of the flange - sorry they are separate posts - can't seem to get more than one into each entry.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on April 07, 2018, 02:51
Last one ...

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on April 07, 2018, 02:56
Nice job Quentin, especially considering the "mother-of-invention" machinery you're working with.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on April 07, 2018, 03:21
Next job is to try and find a 38T 520 sprocket that will fit the 5-bolt triumph cush drive. might have to make an alloy carrier and bolt a sprocket to that.

just buy a blank 38T x 520 sprocket and make your own, that is what I do with our custom stuff
have to make our own sprockets for the GSXR wheel conversions and custom sprockets for both race bikes
fairly straightforward after what you have just accomplished

good job, looks great
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on April 07, 2018, 03:30
just buy a blank 38T x 520 sprocket and make your own, that is what I do with our custom stuff
have to make our own sprockets for the GSXR wheel conversions and custom sprockets for both race bikes
fairly straightforward after what you have just accomplished

good job, looks great
Cool nanas. Thanks Red. Do you buy blanks from Metal Gear or ... somewhere else? In the past I've been able to buy Kwaka sprockets 'off the shelf' but nothing doing in anything smaller than a 42 (and in 530) for a trumpet.

I should post some pics of the 'tower of bolt-ons' I use to achieve some of this stuff on what is basically a large model maker's lathe. In the next life I'll have a Bridport, and and ... (and the know-how to do it right!).
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on April 07, 2018, 10:04
Well, not my bikes, but bikes that have been repaired/overhauled by me at OCT over the winter months.  All due for test rides, yesterday was the first day allowing proper 40-50km test rides without the danger of salting customers bikes from top to bottom.  Lots of salt on the roads this winter, but thankfully washed away by the heavy rains in the past 2 weeks.

It's a shit job for sure, but somebody has to do it... ;D

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on April 07, 2018, 10:22
Salt on roads what the :) :) I took the 77 Jota out for more settling in had to watch out for the salt that was spraying over the Great Ocean Road from Bells Beach and the Rip Curl Pro 25 degrees and clear sunny skies.
Oh yes that old Jota is such a joy it wont take long to wind 1000kms on for a head tension shim check etc.
Bloody Kangaroos everywhere I hope those idiots like black bikes!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on April 07, 2018, 10:31
little nip out to Union Velo for a superb coffee.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on April 07, 2018, 12:12

Ss some long hours on the Emco (Compact Eight). It's not a big lathe


Used to flog those to model makers for turning up tiny parts for their model steam engines &tc.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: motoddrob on April 07, 2018, 13:25
Used to flog those to model makers for turning up tiny parts for their model steam engines &tc.

Was a model maker for 40 odd years and I never built a steam engine! ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on April 07, 2018, 13:33
Was a model maker for 40 odd years and I never built a steam engine! ;D

For some reason they were the "big thing" among the old farts in Esperance. Too many retired cockies with time on their hands I guess.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: stevepm2011 on April 08, 2018, 20:50
I took the 1200 series 1 for a ride.
It has a few improvements:
forged, high compression pistons
Big valve head
Jota silencers
Airbox gutted
It really goes like stink, lots of torque. I am still running the standard A11 cams, not sure if it is worth putting 4Cs in.
The clutch, however is nasty! Need to have another go at it...
 

Steve
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on April 08, 2018, 21:33
no A11s are lovely.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on April 08, 2018, 21:59
no A11s are lovely.

 ??? Ya can’t push Laverda valves down if you don’t have a camshaft. Perhaps by lovely, you meant nice and quiet.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on April 08, 2018, 23:11
Brought it back from the Scottish bike show.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/786/41328096871_c155f272d4_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25Y2imk)2018-04-08 17.10.59 (https://flic.kr/p/25Y2imk) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on April 09, 2018, 02:17
Someone has nicked your shock absorbers.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on April 09, 2018, 07:14
 (clever)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on April 09, 2018, 07:20
Someone has nicked your shock absorbers.

10 points Cam.   Into the Hall of Fame with that post...

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on April 09, 2018, 07:21
Grant have you got a side by side couple pics, old tank and new on the bike. How many litres extra. That RGS that went around the world 20 years ago had a 35-litre tank extension, yours looks much nicer.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on April 09, 2018, 08:11
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/887/41210473872_bb033c2616_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25MCs8A)IMG-20180307-WA0004 (https://flic.kr/p/25MCs8A) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/895/27380225598_da4762545b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HHuPa9)IMG-20180307-WA0000 (https://flic.kr/p/HHuPa9) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

The Scottish bike show got in the way this weekend as I was on stand duty.
I decanted 4 litres from the old tank (measured) and at first opportunity I'll take it to a petrol station and fill it up.
I'm only hoping for 4 or 5 more litres.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on April 10, 2018, 10:06
OK, done the comparison.
Old tank, 18 litres, new tank 23 litres.
Result!
Neither tank completely full, as in each case the filler cap is central on the tank and the bike only has a sidestand.
But valid in real world fill-ups.
I now have just over 1 UK gallon extra.
Should comfortably give another 40 odd miles range before reserve.
Should be useful during my Highland tour this summer where service stations can be few and far between and maybe not open on Sundays.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on April 11, 2018, 12:13
Here's a collection of lovely Laverdas at the meeting Sunday

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on April 14, 2018, 20:21
My 3CL tank is done , came out very nice
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on April 16, 2018, 01:01
Nice.  Next job is the badges.  I bought some little pots of red and green modeller's enamel and a fine brush the other day for that exact job.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on April 16, 2018, 03:38
Nice.  Next job is the badges.  I bought some little pots of red and green modeller's enamel and a fine brush the other day for that exact job.

Lee will appreciate the effort you have gone to fixing up his badges for him
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on April 16, 2018, 04:02
Yes Chris, I would have appreciated him doing my badges but I just did them
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on April 16, 2018, 21:37
Look great Lee.

I ordered a set of Jet drills from Weber yesterday, l,m going to tackle this flat spot myself. Away for work, but drills should be waiting for me when I get back.  8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on April 17, 2018, 00:45
Look great Lee.

I ordered a set of Jet drills from Weber yesterday, l,m going to tackle this flat spot myself. Away for work, but drills should be waiting for me when I get back.  8)
Where are you up to with this flat spot, CK? Seems to me you need someone familiar with Dells to spend a measly half an hour and they should be able to sort it. Not that complicated tracking down what you describe. And you can watch and learn  :-*

What you haven't told us is how many turns from 'in' the pilot mixture screw is wound out. A very good start when looking to sort a fluff at low revs.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on April 17, 2018, 04:05
What you haven't told us is how many turns from 'in' the pilot mixture screw is wound out. A very good start when looking to sort a fluff at low revs.

Back home (at work) again now. Will check tonight and advise.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on April 17, 2018, 12:21
What shape advance curve is throwing a spanner in the works?
Jet drills! A couple of pairs of pilot jets of guaranteed size surely will see it mixed correctly.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on April 17, 2018, 18:07

I ordered a set of Jet drills from Weber yesterday, l

Do they have drills that make the jets smaller?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on April 18, 2018, 01:34
Got my jet dill kit today: 0.30mm up to 2.00mm in .05 increments.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on April 18, 2018, 02:50
Got my jet dill kit today: 0.30mm up to 2.00mm in .05 increments.

Whatcha gonna drill? Some airliners?

Did they come with a set of tiny stamps to relabel the jets?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on April 18, 2018, 05:06
Whatcha gonna drill? Some airliners

Yep, they want smaller holes in the passenger windows.  ;D

Not sure why the holes are there, but there must be a reason. Demisting?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: SimonR501 on April 20, 2018, 17:11
Not sure why the holes are there, but there must be a reason. Demisting?
I was told the holes are for equalising pressure! It is only thin polycarbonate.

The much thicker outer window does the hard work.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on April 20, 2018, 17:37
Yep, they want smaller holes in the passenger windows.  ;D

Not sure why the holes are there, but there must be a reason. Demisting?

If you drill holes in outer window ..... it gets very misty!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on April 20, 2018, 17:47
The only time I drilled a jet, FCR Kehans have a jet that when bigger reduces the volume of the accelerator pump squirt, its called a leak jet. The tuning pros have hundreds of mods to sort this, lots of bikes that run these have massive carbs. My 250 Husky came with a 37mm carb and would almost stall with a fist of the accelerator pump.To find the best amount of squirt sounds suspect, they would video it at the std 30 frames a second and with experiments found its best was at 0.75mm compared to 0.35mm. Clever types. So I go into the local Husky shop and ask for a 0.75 Leak Jet and get a confused look. They never heard of any of this. So then I bought a 0.75mm drill bit, then I needed a drill with a chuck to hold it. My Dramal did the job, slow as possible as there very easily broken. This worked great with power wheelies and zero bog. A couple of other great mods is a gadget called a Power Now. It's a fixed horizontal thin blade that divides the middle of the carb throat air filter side and causes the carb to act like its smaller at small throatal openings. That also worked well. Last gadget was a JD jetting kit, that is 2 triple tapered needles with 5 notches developed on a dino for your model and a list of altitudes and temperatures they work at. You could feel the difference if you didnt use the right needle for summer or winter temperatures. So even the latest best-designed carbs take some work to jet well.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on April 21, 2018, 09:43
Bedding in Paddys Brembo front pads and new front BT45 boot.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on April 21, 2018, 11:14
Work in progress for phase 2 of the makeover.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/812/27728542508_d1f1266aa9_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Jfh2D7)2018-04-21 10.57.53 (https://flic.kr/p/Jfh2D7) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on April 22, 2018, 00:20
Cool Grant. Why is there a big black hole in your sprocket?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on April 22, 2018, 00:30
Cool Grant. Why is there a big black hole in your sprocket?

'cos I put it there.  There's another 4 of 'em, seemed  like a good idea at the time. ;D

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on April 22, 2018, 00:37
'cos I put it there.  There's another 4 of 'em, seemed  like a good idea at the time. ;D

piet

The other four must be hiding due to embarrassment  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on April 22, 2018, 03:09
I can see 3 in the photo, get a pair of glasses.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on April 22, 2018, 07:42
Not only do you know nothing about candles, you know SFA about holes as well :o ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on April 22, 2018, 10:03
you will find the missing hole on the front engine plate
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: MotoJouni on April 22, 2018, 11:13
Eye holes, someone has stared it too long.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on April 22, 2018, 22:15
"Skittles" at Woolacombe today  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on April 23, 2018, 08:15
Got the gelati running on the weekend with much help from the Golden Panda and the Boss
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on April 23, 2018, 12:37
Got the gelati running on the weekend with much help from the Golden Panda and the Boss
(salute)

Cool...

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on April 23, 2018, 19:06
Got the gelati running on the weekend with much help from the Golden Panda and the Boss

and liberal amounts of Beer and Bourbon
Good weekend

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverdalothar on April 24, 2018, 06:58
Do they have drills that make the jets smaller?

any drill makes the jets smaller - if you leave it in the jet...  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on April 24, 2018, 07:03
Ordered new slides for it.  ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on April 29, 2018, 06:51
Thought I'd try and make the Eagles seat presentable. Cover looks to be original, but was missing seat strap, chrome trim, had a couple of holes and had become unstuck from the seat base in parts:-
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2F20180427_142935.jpg&hash=39452fe698de2b5925f0e53a4d882e67)

Bought some repro trim and seat strap from ebay, some spray on glue and quite pleased with result. Still have a hole at rear on other side. I will try and find some similar vinyl and glue a patch on. I know it isn't a patch on a proper job, but I'm happy with result and think it suits the original look and makes it look more complete. (May get a new seat cover later perhaps?):-
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2F20180429_151832.jpg&hash=fa8637369df52f0fbf33c87240aff31a)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on May 04, 2018, 16:40
Finally finished up on fitting some new fork seals to the Jota,have to say they were the easiest seals i have ever had the pleasure of removing,..... big thanks to Ducati Paddy for supplying me with spares. (bigthumb)

First time I have had the Marzocchi forks apart,found them fitted with two seals in each leg and lovely brown oil......and doesn't it smell!

another job done and experience banked.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on May 05, 2018, 04:46
A crispy sunny Autumn morning meant a squirt up to Healesville.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 05, 2018, 21:36
Lucky bugger, did you do the Spur? Gods motorcycling country.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on May 05, 2018, 23:20
Nope.
Maybe today  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on May 06, 2018, 14:38
No sooner am I home than the carby replacement begins.

Dellortos off, I discover oil leaking around the bottom of carb 1 and 2 inlet stubs, and a split in the gasket between stub 3 and the block.

Having thought ahead, I do have replacements.

Backing out the lower stud from cylinder 2 was easy enough using 2 nuts. But 1 and 3 wont shift. Any tips?

Removing the lower studs is necessary to install Red's angled stubs...

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: SimonR501 on May 06, 2018, 17:39
You could try:
1). Penetrating fluid (the proper stuff, not WD40), then try again.
2). Heat around the stud while trying to undo (there might be Loctite in there).
3). Shock load the stud with a smallish hammer on the end to break the bond, then rip into it.
4). Try a bit harder with double nuts.
 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on May 06, 2018, 18:49
You could try:
1). Penetrating fluid (the proper stuff, not WD40), then try again.
2). Heat around the stud while trying to undo (there might be Loctite in there).
3). Shock load the stud with a smallish hammer on the end to break the bond, then rip into it.
4). Try a bit harder with double nuts.

Double nuts are just turning together and the technical tap didnt work.

Off to get a blow torch tomorrow...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on May 06, 2018, 18:49
Progressing slowly with the POP makeover.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/969/40859838285_268a6a792c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25fDmor)2018-04-28 13.16.45 (https://flic.kr/p/25fDmor) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/911/40119899870_aaede2162f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/248fYty)2018-05-06 11.33.49 (https://flic.kr/p/248fYty) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: angonemoto on May 06, 2018, 21:09
Perfect weather, 69 and Sunny, here in Chicagoland so I took a break from rebuilding the triple's carbs (parts on order) and after some fiddling, including replacing these fouled plugs and rummaging through the points plate, a few turns here and there on the carbs and some necessary detailing took the 750 SF2 out for a spirited flogging. Wow, I wish I could duplicate todays weather, because everything seemed to be correct conditions wise and over the quick 93 mile journey the only complaint is I had to come home to help out around the yard. Midrange and up the throttle response is getting better, I still think there is more there so after the 3CL this bike is going to get a going over, too. Ride safe!

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F11817%2FIMG_20180505_163414.jpg&hash=6d5df758f265ef67a6970a935e63291f)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F11817%2FIMG_20180505_165536.jpg&hash=c8e08a61d08259c6c976913449a26e16)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F11817%2FIMG_20180505_154336.jpg&hash=6b1e2a3b97c0d17122c6fbf33817eba9)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F11817%2FIMG_20180505_193850_304.jpg&hash=6b9a7afcdd2be547e4d7b8b5df8535b9)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on May 06, 2018, 22:21
Get rid of the rivets on the condensers before they work loose and put screws in.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on May 06, 2018, 22:27
Sound advice Paul, happened on my GT once.Limped home banging like a good"un on one set.,
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on May 06, 2018, 22:45
No sooner am I home than the carby replacement begins.
Dellortos off, I discover oil leaking around the bottom of carb 1 and 2 inlet stubs, and a split in the gasket between stub 3 and the block.
Having thought ahead, I do have replacements.
Backing out the lower stud from cylinder 2 was easy enough using 2 nuts. But 1 and 3 wont shift. Any tips?
Removing the lower studs is necessary to install Red's angled stubs...

I weld a nut on to the stud when I find studs that are not keen to be liberated from their position

when installing the Mikuni's do not use the heat spacers, they are not needed as the rubber couplings do the same job

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: angonemoto on May 07, 2018, 01:29
Wow, that would totally suck. I do have plans to update the ignition to a digital setup this season. Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on May 07, 2018, 18:56
Blowtorch applied, stubs out, studs on. Mikunis were very easy to fit.

Started off the button without choke.

Took her for a spin down to Stonhenge and back. Massive improvement on throttle response.

Sadly found i had evolved a cam cover oil leak. Suspect its due to changing out one bolt to fit a new one that secures the bracket holding the carbs
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on May 08, 2018, 05:07
When I fitted Mikunis to my Jota, It felt like it had better throttle response too. But putting it on the dyno revealed bugger-all difference in power from the Dellortos. The power curves were pretty much identical. I reckon the different feel was because of the lighter throttle. It was easier to twist it open so I was probably opening it further!

Mine needs choke to start and it coughs and splutters a bit until warmed up.

Fuel consumption is improved with the Mikunis.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on May 08, 2018, 18:05
When I fitted Mikunis to my Jota, It felt like it had better throttle response too. But putting it on the dyno revealed bugger-all difference in power from the Dellortos. The power curves were pretty much identical. I reckon the different feel was because of the lighter throttle. It was easier to twist it open so I was probably opening it further!

Mine needs choke to start and it coughs and splutters a bit until warmed up.

Fuel consumption is improved with the Mikunis.

how many miles until you"re break even ?;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on May 09, 2018, 03:02
how many miles until you"re break even ?;D

Not many. I used a second-hand set of Mikunis that I got pretty cheaply. They were on a bike that had been left outside in a wrecker's yard, so they looked like shit. Also, one of the float bowls had burst open from being full of water and freezing in winter (hence the cheap price), but it wasn't the pumper bowl so I could discard it. There was a lot of crud on the inside too, but they had hardly any wear on them and cleaned up nicely. One of my cheapskate gambles that paid off.  :D

Come to think of it, the brand new Mikunis on my RGS mongrel were even cheaper. I got 3 right-hand carbs from Red for a very reasonable price.  The right-hand one is the carb he discards when converting the 4 carb setup to 3. There was a bit of work involved in converting them to a Left/Centre/Right set and turning the centre one into a pumper (and another gamble because I was unsure whether it was do-able) but it all worked OK.

Now that I know it's possible to use the left-over #4 carbs, I'd be keen to get a box full of them and make up some sets to sell. The only issue is that they don't come with all the shaft gubbins like springs, cable cranks, etc. (Red re-uses that stuff on his conversions). The issue being that some of those parts are no longer available separately from Mikuni, so I'd have to get them made. I was lucky to find some second-hand bits on ebay for my carbs. I did have a go at casting up a cable crank at home (the Mikuni ones are cast alloy) but it was an abject failure. I could make them from billet if I had a milling machine ... 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on May 09, 2018, 08:40
that"s all very dedicated, reminds me of 70"s tuppaware parties for some reason  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Hunter on May 10, 2018, 14:48
My Eagle has gotten some well deserved attention this week. A good cleaning and polished the shiny bits. Then adjusted the valves and timing. Timing was a bit retarded but now that it is corrected it feels much more crisp and cruises 70+mph easily! Not bad for a 50 year old lump.  Now I just need the seat back from the upholsterer and all’s done for now.

Hunter
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on May 10, 2018, 14:55
how many miles until you"re break even ?;D

As a percentage of the total rebuild cost of my bike, who cares?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 10, 2018, 23:28
Tomorrow is a big day, got my new slides to fit and re-jet carbs, oil cooler lines to fit ............ and a few test runs.  ;D

Then next week, dyno run, and get ready for a run down to Morgan Park, via Woodenbong, to meet John Kochany with his newly painted Jota.
MartyMooose, JohnK and myself are staying at Killarney. (cheers)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on May 11, 2018, 01:25
Tomorrow is a big day, got my new slides to fit and re-jet carbs, oil cooler lines to fit ............ and a few test runs.  ;D

If it's less than 40C don't forget to shroud the oil cooler fins, Chris  :-*

Good luck with the new jetting setup. looking forward to more reports from in the saddle!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 11, 2018, 01:31
If it's less than 40C don't forget to shroud the oil cooler fins, Chris  :-*

Good luck with the new jetting setup. looking forward to more reports from in the saddle!

I have already thought of that. I have a black stubby cooler that velcroes together down the side. I have the perfect use for it ........... and I can put it to good use when stopped at a pub too  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 12, 2018, 07:08
If it's less than 40C don't forget to shroud the oil cooler fins, Chris  :-*

Good luck with the new jetting setup. looking forward to more reports from in the saddle!

Fitted 50/3 slides, 68 idle jets.

Removed oil cooler because it sprung a leak, just where Clems did.

Pulls smooth, rode from home to Reds, about 10klms, to watch him work on race bikes.

One stray ‘pop’ on there way there.  ;D

Nothing missing, or fallen off.

Measured head temp when I got home:
98c at exhaust ports, 86c at bottom of barrels.  8)

Speedo fix didn’t fix, but realised on the way home, that at 100ks on motorway, keeping with cars, that my 65 Klm Reading was mph. Must drag out the manual.

All up, very chuffed. A big shout out to Redax for their input and help. I’ll ride it to work, this week, when I can, to loosen it up a bit before the 3 hour run to Morgan Park next weekend.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on May 12, 2018, 11:07
I’ll ride it to work, this week, when I can, to loosen it up a bit before the 3 hour run to Morgan Park next weekend.
It's a bit more then 3hrs the way your going....
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on May 12, 2018, 16:33
Verlicchi grips (now so much easier to reach levers) and Oberon bar end mirror fitted to 3C
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on May 12, 2018, 17:27
Fitted a quick release connection to the overflow pipe from the base of the tank.
Internally connected by pipe to the filler cap area. (see second pic taken during construction)
Now removing the tank will be a breeze.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/952/42014996582_fe9d2f849e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/271HQGN)2018-05-12 10.07.26 (https://flic.kr/p/271HQGN) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/795/27380225748_5e4d391c77_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HHuPcJ)IMG-20180215-WA0005 (https://flic.kr/p/HHuPcJ) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 13, 2018, 07:36
I’m a bloody idiot. Went into work to spin up a rattle free fairing ears mount, and fucked it up in 5 minutes. Now it’s beyond repair and I have to start from scratch.

I was looking at Scumpys mirror picture and would like to mount the mount, ala Zane, off the headstock, but there’s no enough room. So it’s got to be mounted on the headstock nut .....

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: andre g on May 13, 2018, 22:27
Wanted to adjust valves but need shims with 1.8 and 1,75 mm- are thay available?
Can I fix a Dremel on the support of my lathe and grind the thicker shims to the correct thickness?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 13, 2018, 23:10
Wanted to adjust valves but need shims with 1.8 and 1,75 mm- are thay available?
Can I fix a Dremel on the support of my lathe and grind the thicker shims to the correct thickness?

 :o Seriously? Sounds like trouble Andre.

800 Wet and dry with lube on a glass surface, and rub in circular motions to you hearts content. Don't forget to measure them, to see how you are progressing.
Turn the suckers around every now and then, so the surface remains flat/even. Have fun.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on May 14, 2018, 00:10
Wanted to adjust valves but need shims with 1.8 and 1,75 mm- are thay available?
Can I fix a Dremel on the support of my lathe and grind the thicker shims to the correct thickness?
I've mounted my angle grinder in the lathe and used a fine wheel to grind hardened surfaces and cut through needle bearings (for bicycle freehub use). As long as you dial the shim to ensure it's running absolutely true there's no reason it won't work. Can improve the finish by hand as per CKs suggestion.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on May 14, 2018, 00:10
Verlicchi grips (now so much easier to reach levers) and Oberon bar end mirror fitted to 3C


Pic?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on May 14, 2018, 02:02
Verlicchi grips (now so much easier to reach levers) and Oberon bar end mirror fitted to 3C

the Verlicchi grips on my Jota fell to bits on the west coast ride a couple of months ago. I had to wrap gaffer tape around the twistgrip to give me something to get a grip onto. They were on the bike when I bought it so no idea how old they were.

On longish rides, I was getting a bit of numbness in my left hand with the Verlicchi type so decided to try something with a bit more padding to replace them. Just bought some Beston style grips on Ebay. I think they were fitted the old British parallel twins back in the day, so maybe they offer a bit of vibration isolation.

Weather is not conducive to long rides at this time of year, so I probably won't find out if it makes any difference until we come out the other side of winter.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on May 14, 2018, 08:06
well never had a problem with Verlicchi ever ,now on 3 of my 4 Laverdas, Suzuki grips on Sprint, I really don"t like padded middle grips , must be my small delicate hands Cam  : :-*
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 14, 2018, 08:50
must be my small delicate hands Cam  : :-*

I could well have a (han. ...) job for you Lemon. Do you have an issue with wearing nail polish for a while?  :-*
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on May 14, 2018, 09:38
just removing it  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on May 14, 2018, 10:24
How is the 120?¿?¿
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on May 14, 2018, 10:47
civil partnership sorted.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on May 14, 2018, 11:02
 ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 15, 2018, 05:10
Between Dr visits and pathology and MRI and X-rays yesterday and today ::) I made up a new fairing ears mount, and it doesn’t rattle! Fitted up nicely and mounts off the centre steering nut. I used a, modified for purpose, inline rod end, so that it can swivel, without rattling.

As my phone, computer and photobucket are arguing with each other, I can’t show you any pictures  >:(

Have the afternoon at home today, so maybe I’ll go and play Laverda.  :P
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on May 15, 2018, 05:15
Just because I am a fussy type, I have a 3mm thick needle roller bearing between the steering head nut and the fairing mounts on both the 3C and Pantah. Takes any friction load of the nut from the fairing weight. Probably not worth the effort but I like to do this stuff.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on May 15, 2018, 08:37
Received another couple of bits today and was able to mount and connect the speedo and tacho. Mounted the tach first, held my breath, started the bike and tacho worked beautifully, nice smooth action , no wavering. Next connected the speedo and took it for a ride. Didn't look like it would work, then after getting going a bit it also started working and again no wavering or jerkiness!! Now, not saying they will continue to work (or accurate) as both appear to move about in their casings, (presume perished mounting rubbers) but at least I can take it to my friendly roadworthy guy and get a bit of paper to get it registered so I can ride it legally..........very happy.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on May 17, 2018, 23:22
Took a couple bits of paper to local transport office yesterday and after a bit of computer massaging my Eagle is now registered  ;D
Didn't want to confuse the issue too much so requested it be registered as a Laverda American Eagle (model). Funny enough couldn't find a Laverda American Eagle (only GTL or SF) on their data base :o, but didn't matter as chassis number was not recognised anyway so they had to create the model. So it is registered as a 1969 Laverda American eagle..............
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on May 18, 2018, 00:33
Took a couple bits of paper to local transport office yesterday and after a bit of computer massaging my Eagle is now registered  ;D
Didn't want to confuse the issue too much so requested it be registered as a Laverda American Eagle (model). Funny enough couldn't find a Laverda American Eagle (only GTL or SF) on their data base :o , but didn't matter as chassis number was not recognised anyway so they had to create the model. So it is registered as a 1969 Laverda American eagle..............


 (needpics)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 18, 2018, 01:10
 (needpics)

 (needpics)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on May 18, 2018, 04:59
Just because I am a fussy type, I have a 3mm thick needle roller bearing between the steering head nut and the fairing mounts on both the 3C and Pantah. Takes any friction load of the nut from the fairing weight. Probably not worth the effort but I like to do this stuff.

Blimey Vince. I thought I had a tendency to over-design things.  But I've never bothered with a bearing for a fairing mount on top of the steering nut. I just let it swivel on a M6 bolt. The nearest I've ever got to putting a bearing in that application is to make the centre mounting doohickey out of plastic. As you can see in the attached photo of my RGS mongrel.

BTW, if the swivel mount is taking some of the weight of the fairing, a needle roller is the wrong choice of bearing because it won't carry any axial load. You'd have been better off with a ball bearing.  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on May 18, 2018, 05:10
Its got a load, it's my attempt to jack up the fairing as high as possible so my poor old back is a bit straighter. It was needed to help clear the handlebars, also as high as possible, at full lock.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 18, 2018, 06:26
Just sent some pics to Cam to load on here for me: New fairing stay, foot controls, and mounts I made up for them.

Breather works a treat, no more fuel smear around the filler cap.

Have a look in the 'Tips and how to' thread.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on May 18, 2018, 06:35
Ok, didn't think the shiners were interested in something that still looks old and neglected :o
Now remember, this isn't a resto, more like a resurrection :-\. Trying to keep it in original condition although still tossing up what to do........ Running beautifully, will try and get young bloke to upload a video:-

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2F18052018%2520c.jpg&hash=abf8f706cd3cdef5507b7a9c5b5c0038)
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2F18052018d.jpg&hash=4f4edb10425ee1122f419d24c57b0a04)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 18, 2018, 06:40
Too  8) Peter, great patina.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on May 18, 2018, 06:47
I really like the S, but thats a great looking GT survivor.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on May 18, 2018, 06:52
Just sent some pics to Cam to load on here for me: New fairing stay, foot controls, and mounts I made up for them.

Breather works a treat, no more fuel smear around the filler cap.

Have a look in the 'Tips and how to' thread.

Here's the link to Chris' photos  http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,93299.0.html (http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,93299.0.html)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: lavgert on May 18, 2018, 08:04
Ok, didn't think the shiners were interested in something that still looks old and neglected :o
Now remember, this isn't a resto, more like a resurrection :-\. Trying to keep it in original condition although still tossing up what to do........ Running beautifully, will try and get young bloke to upload a video:-

... great bike! Much better than any high gloss restauration!
Ciao, Gert
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on May 18, 2018, 08:08
Ok, didn't think the shiners were interested in something that still looks old and neglected :o
Now remember, this isn't a resto, more like a resurrection :-\ . Trying to keep it in original condition although still tossing up what to do........ Running beautifully, will try and get young bloke to upload a video:-


That is really neat!! :D :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on May 18, 2018, 08:38
Loving that 750 GT, Leave it as is, just perfect.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on May 18, 2018, 09:31
looks sensational to me , no need to be too shiny, love it :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on May 18, 2018, 11:46
i am sure that fuel pipe is the wrong colour for some  :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: 3C-Wayne on May 18, 2018, 11:49
Add a copy of the first American Eagle photo to the 2019 Calendar thread...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sonomalaverda on May 18, 2018, 14:27
That is just lovely !
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jo on May 18, 2018, 14:35
looks sensational to me , no need to be too shiny, love it :D
+1   (bigthumb)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on May 18, 2018, 14:39
Yes, should definitely be in the calendar thread. As well as the patina it's not a racer or an orange triple.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on May 18, 2018, 14:42
Loving that 750 GT, Leave it as is, just perfect.

lovely, leave as is.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on May 18, 2018, 20:37
Ok, didn't think the shiners were interested in something that still looks old and neglected :o
Now remember, this isn't a resto, more like a resurrection :-\. Trying to keep it in original condition although still tossing up what to do........ Running beautifully, will try and get young bloke to upload a video:-

Very cool, Peter.

I'd polish it up as best it will go, warts, rust and all, without renewing anything that doesn't really require it.  Would preserve the patina without looking scruffy and un-loved. 

Wilfried "restores" his tiddlers like that, renewing only safety-related and technically vital bits (rims, tyres, cables, wiring, etc), then belts them down the length of Italy in the Milan-Taranto event.  His bikes stand out beautifully against the shiny concourse bikes.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 18, 2018, 21:20
And what a little cutie it is.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on May 18, 2018, 22:25
Thanks all for your comments. It has taken a surprisingly lot of time to clean all the crud off and get everything functioning correctly. (Actually without any blasting it is never ending getting the crud from the hard to reach areas) I am very pleased with it as everything works and runs great, although it is a pity the paintwork has deteriorated that much.
Interestingly only had one person around here thought I should paint it and he rides a Harley :o
I was just waiting for one small item and I had a photo planned that I was going to post in the calendar thread. Knowing my camera skills I will no doubt just throw the one I put on here earlier into the hat............... :-[
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on May 19, 2018, 00:33
SuperCheap do a really good degreaser in 5L tubs: paint it on / work it in with a brush and then rinse off: sandcast cases come up like new!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Ventodue on May 19, 2018, 07:16
Wilfried "restores" his tiddlers like that <snip>

 (thumbup).  Best looking Laverda I've seen for a long time, Piet.  Just shouts, "SPEED!"
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on May 19, 2018, 08:27

Wilfried "restores" his tiddlers like that, renewing only safety-related and technically vital bits (rims, tyres, cables, wiring, etc), then belts them down the length of Italy in the Milan-Taranto event.  His bikes stand out beautifully against the shiny concourse bikes.

piet

Another one for the calendar thread please.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on May 19, 2018, 22:05
Ok, didn't think the shiners were interested in something that still looks old and neglected :o
Now remember, this isn't a resto, more like a resurrection :-\. Trying to keep it in original condition although still tossing up what to do........ Running beautifully, will try and get young bloke to upload a video:-

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2F18052018%2520c.jpg&hash=abf8f706cd3cdef5507b7a9c5b5c0038)
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2F18052018d.jpg&hash=4f4edb10425ee1122f419d24c57b0a04)

Looking great, you've been busy since I saw it up on the bench
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Hunter on May 20, 2018, 21:56
Ok, didn't think the shiners were interested in something that still looks old and neglected :o
Now remember, this isn't a resto, more like a resurrection :-\. Trying to keep it in original condition although still tossing up what to do........ Running beautifully, will try and get young bloke to upload a video:-

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2F18052018%2520c.jpg&hash=abf8f706cd3cdef5507b7a9c5b5c0038)

That is a really nice find! And it's one of the fast red ones to boot!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on May 21, 2018, 08:31
Looking great, you've been busy since I saw it up on the bench
Yeh, Alex, managed to get it all back together ;)
Have you been able to gives those Mikunis a decent work out yet??
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on May 21, 2018, 08:56
Another one for the calendar thread please.

Only have hi-res pics of this bike with time/date stamps, so not really suited for the calendar.

I've now disabled this function in my camera...

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 21, 2018, 09:00
Only have hi-res pics of this bike with time/date stamps, so not really suited for the calendar.

I've now disabled this function in my camera...

piet

A calendar with a clock ....... a hi-tech calendar indeed.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on May 21, 2018, 10:57
Rode it for 1100 odd trouble free K's today, decided to go the long way home  :o have I ever mentioned that RGS's are simply the best damn touring bikes on the planet oh and they dont do too bad on the track even if the rider misses the odd gear here and there.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on May 21, 2018, 16:02
Yeh, Alex, managed to get it all back together ;)
Have you been able to gives those Mikunis a decent work out yet??

I've done a couple of long runs in preparation for a tour around Scotland starting wednesday. Bike has been running exceptionally - with a few niggles

Going down to Devon the other day, picked up a misfire at 4000revs that turned out to be a loose connection

On the run home yesterday, lost my brake light lens somewhere on the A303

Today trying to fine balance the carbs I only succeeded in unbalancing them, and the bike now wont start. Battery charging overnight and will have another crack at it tomorrow...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 21, 2018, 23:21
Rode it for 1100 odd trouble free K's today, decided to go the long way home  :o have I ever mentioned that RGS's are simply the best damn touring bikes on the planet oh and they dont do too bad on the track even if the rider misses the odd gear here and there.

 :o Is that a pair of thongs I see hanging off the top of you panniers? A strange way to carry your thongs ...........

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D97052.0%3Battach%3D48337%3Bimage&hash=6799f9d203e0804528089039b662e777)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on May 22, 2018, 00:28
Rode it for 1100 odd trouble free K's today, decided to go the long way home  :o have I ever mentioned that RGS's are simply the best damn touring bikes on the planet oh and they dont do too bad on the track even if the rider misses the odd gear here and there.
Good stuff, Brett. Using the beast for what it was designed to do. I have always felt the same way about my 750, but the RGS is certainly a perfect setup for long distance travel.

Where else should the thongs go, CK? On his feet?  :-*
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on May 22, 2018, 02:09
:o Is that a pair of thongs I see hanging off the top of you panniers? A strange way to carry your thongs ...........


Dare I ask, where do you wear your thong?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverda143 on May 22, 2018, 03:25
Hi Brett, I completely agree with you on the RGS being a great bike to ride and it is soooo good looking. Here is my first RGS, when my Corsa came up for sale I sold this and bought the Corsa which I still have.

Bob
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 22, 2018, 05:38
Where else should the thongs go, CK? On his feet?  :-*

 ;D It was a point of conversation at the track, instead of going in the panniers, he bungee's them to the top.
Maybe he doesn't wear his thongs inside the house either  (dunno)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Steph on May 22, 2018, 07:15
Only have hi-res pics of this bike with time/date stamps, so not really suited for the calendar.

I've now disabled this function in my camera...

All "real" cameras embed information (like date taken and many other data) into the jpeg picture in the metadata region (Exif) of the file anyway.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on May 22, 2018, 15:01
Dare I ask, where do you wear your thong?

Dare I ask ........ what kind of thong you're talking about?

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51zy2VNWh8L._UX385_.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverdalothar on May 22, 2018, 15:04
Wrong forum, guys, wrong forum...  :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on May 22, 2018, 16:52
Largely but seemingly not completely unbuggered my crappy carb balancing efforts from monday. Doesnt feel as smooth revving as it was before, but fingers crossed in the morning it proves rideable, as I'm heading north towards inverness to take it around the coast. Alternatively on the KTM if it's still buggered.

Rebuilt the brake light using a spare lens and a cojple of bits of m4 threaded bar. The old lens is scattered somewhere over the A303
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: a14rgs on May 22, 2018, 18:31
Rebuilt the brake light using a spare lens and a cojple of bits of m4 threaded bar. The old lens is scattered somewhere over the A303
Wiltshire Laverda Spares to the rescue (again) ;)
Good luck for tomorrow - I’ll await the updates 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on May 22, 2018, 18:44
1100 ks - hats off my arse would be pulp - did 140 miles on Sunday with the mirror unscrewing itself every 3 miles  8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on May 22, 2018, 19:08
Martins just come back from Hebridean adventure 1,800 miles, Sky, Harris  etc on his 77 1200, Alex if you"de stopped at our ILOC meet on Sunday you"de have met him.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on May 22, 2018, 21:30
Largely but seemingly not completely unbuggered my crappy carb balancing efforts from monday. Doesnt feel as smooth revving as it was before, but fingers crossed in the morning it proves rideable, as I'm heading north towards inverness to take it around the coast. Alternatively on the KTM if it's still buggered.

how are you trying to balance these carbs Alex, with vacuum gauges ?
attach hoses to all 3 carbs using the vacuum ports provided on the Mikuni carb, you remove the rubber bungs that are currently installed
remove the carb tops on the outer two carbs, no need to do anything to the middle carb as it has no adjustment
start engine, I ramp the idle speed up to 1,500 rpm when doing the initial balance
manipulate the eccentric nuts below the Phillip head lock nuts to adjust the vacuum readings on the outer two carbs to match the middle carb

can be a finicky process as the middle carb will change as you bring the others into line as idle speed will increase and decrease depending on adjustment
 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on May 22, 2018, 23:02
how are you trying to balance these carbs Alex, with vacuum gauges ?
attach hoses to all 3 carbs using the vacuum ports provided on the Mikuni carb, you remove the rubber bungs that are currently installed
remove the carb tops on the outer two carbs, no need to do anything to the middle carb as it has no adjustment
start engine, I ramp the idle speed up to 1,500 rpm when doing the initial balance
manipulate the eccentric nuts below the Phillip head lock nuts to adjust the vacuum readings on the outer two carbs to match the middle carb

can be a finicky process as the middle carb will change as you bring the others into line as idle speed will increase and decrease depending on adjustment

That's what I was trying, Red - borrowed some gauges from A14RGS and set them up. But once I started tweaking Carb 1, Carb 2 went out of whack. Then it stalled. Then I couldn't restart it, and bugger me but I couldn't get it back to where I started.
The adjustment of the eccentric nuts is very fiddly.
Disassembled the whole rig, re-did them all by eye. Reassembled it and got it running again.

Tweaked on the gauges at a higher idle so that it wasn't as prone to stalling - they' were pretty well in line but it doesn't feel as smooth as it did before I started :(

Or at least in line enough that hopefully I can ride it over to see Rob tomorrow and he can have a more experienced crack at it!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 23, 2018, 03:59
Last night, I was thinking about my harsh forks ......... then I remembered when the bike burned to the ground, the plastic spring spacers (a hollow cone shape) had melted and I turned up some solid alloy spacers.

These would be about 90mm long, with just enough clearance to fit down the tubes. I may have inadvertently reduced my air gap by ............. shitloads.

Last year I found some on Ebay, I just have to remember where I put them.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on May 23, 2018, 09:58
I use plastic electrical conduit for preload spacers. The heavy duty orange stuff is best. It has a thick wall so the spring has a good end surface to bear against and if you get the right size (32mm I think?) it fits neatly into a 38mm fork. Seems to be resistant to fork oil too. Just square the ends off in the lathe and bob's your uncle.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on May 23, 2018, 10:24
I use plastic electrical conduit for preload spacers. The heavy duty orange stuff is best. It has a thick wall so the spring has a good end surface to bear against and if you get the right size (32mm I think?) it fits neatly into a 38mm fork. Seems to be resistant to fork oil too. Just square the ends off in the lathe and bob's your uncle.

What is a good starting length for a Ceriani forked 3c? mine has none at the moment :(
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on May 23, 2018, 10:38
Depends how much sag ya have at the mo. Oil weight/ quantity and spring rate all have bearing on whether you need any preload  ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on May 23, 2018, 10:54
About 1/3 of travel or 30mm sag, that's how much the bike fork sinks from fully up to where the bike is with you sitting on it.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on May 23, 2018, 11:24
What is a good starting length for a Ceriani forked 3c? mine has none at the moment :(

If you have standard, unfucked with, 38mm Ceriani forks in good condition just find a weight fork oil that suits and otherwise leave them alone. Once you start playing with them you spend a heap of time and money for very little improvement.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on May 23, 2018, 12:20
Thanks for that, will give it a miss for the moment  :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on May 23, 2018, 18:55
m.o.t'd the Jota yesterday.......a little late unfortunately after its fork seal change and exhaust fettling but now happily back on the road..........Strangely my horn decided to stop working at the testing station?......but easily fixed by taking a wire off the second one!
allowing the other one to beep merrily.......very strange as they both worked before i left home and both worked again when i got home........how very peculiar that was. :D 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on May 24, 2018, 01:27
Strangely my horn decided to stop working at the testing station?

Bound to happen ... blame some guy called Murphy? Or Ruderhaus (spelling guess)?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on May 24, 2018, 02:45
Told by some random bloke, have a good look at the horn and you will see 2 tiny drain holes, locate one at the bottom so water drains away and they don't rust inside, who knew that one other than random man.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on May 24, 2018, 03:03
Strangely my horn decided to stop working at the testing station?......

I had exactly the same thing happen to me at a testing station. Pulled the spade connectors off the horn and gave them a squeeze with pliers - all good. Bike passed the test.

Some bikes just don't like being MOTd.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on May 24, 2018, 03:13
My indicators stopped working. The tester let it through anyway as they had been working to start with. Brand new indicators that came with the globes fitted. Pulled them apart when I got home to find they all had 6V globes.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on May 24, 2018, 04:55
Bet you had real bright indicators for a couple of flashes ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on May 24, 2018, 05:23
I’ve often wondered whether early Lavs might only have 6v alternators... ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on May 24, 2018, 06:24
Finally got my 3C back from having the tank kreme stripped out of its guts. Someone in their infinite wisdom had doesed it about 12 years ago but left all the kreme in ....... it was an inch thick in the corners. Took acetone and half a dozen other chemicals to get it stripped out ..... and that only took a few months as it had to sit for days waiting to soften the crud.

The tank is now at the painters ....... hoping the next post will be some photo's of the finished product.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on May 24, 2018, 06:38
I made to stupid decision to use that shit on a Triumph tank mega years ago. I was thinking the other day it being white it must be PVA based, it was an epic fail. The bottom of the tank ended up being cut out to get rid of it.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on May 24, 2018, 08:26
The seat on my AE had a faint outline and 2 mounting holes on the rear where presumably a badge had been attached. I ordered one of those Lav seat badges (the small ones use I believe) and it arrived today. Drilled a couple of holes in badge and it fitted to spot perfectly. Very nice metal badge....
Anyway, I quite like the understated elegance ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: angonemoto on May 24, 2018, 15:35
Where did you order the seat badge from? I really like that.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Alexb83 on May 24, 2018, 20:07
Yesterday: 170 odd miles to Knutsford, lost satnav on the m6 to suction cup failure. Oh well!

Today: 220 miles to Glasgow mainly on motorway. Then 170 more miles to Inverness up the A9 which was very scenic but very boring otherwise. Beatiful weather, bike running nicely but consuming oil.
Stocked up on 20w50 ready for the rest of the NC500
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on May 24, 2018, 20:13
Where did you order the seat badge from? I really like that.

Come clean Peter, I want one too.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on May 24, 2018, 20:43
Well, couldn't find anything on the net so I actually did a search on here and found a query not very long ago about a supplier of these and of course Piet had the answer:-
http://www.abziehbilderservice.de/Start.htm
I did send emails etc and very good communication and service. Great little badge, just have to drill the mounting holes.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on June 07, 2018, 09:45
Fixed the ignition switch on the Flying Bogie (SF0). It was worn to the point that there was an intermittent 'off' when going over bumpy roads. A bit of cleaning and adjustemnt - to compensate for mechanical wear - has it all tickety boo again. Once more I spend many hours to fix something that is, these days, functionaly replacable for pennies. Still, at least it's the Bosch switch and not a Chinese thing with unknown internal quality.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1736/40814406920_8a139caf11.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on June 08, 2018, 00:52
Once more I spend many hours to fix something that is, these days, functionaly replacable for pennies.

I do that all the time. It pisses me off to chuck away something that's fixable, especially the original design can be improved in the process.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverda SF on June 08, 2018, 03:27
For an SF0 Ignition SX - That doesn't look Bosch to me ;o)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on June 08, 2018, 03:47
Got some 10mm 6061 Ali plate so that I can fabricate some adaptors to mount 4 pot Brembos on my Ceriani forks. They seem to be unobtanium these days.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: blab on June 08, 2018, 04:05
Got some 10mm 6061 Ali plate so that I can fabricate some adaptors to mount 4 pot Brembos on my Ceriani forks. They seem to be unobtanium these days.
https://www.eurobrit.com.au/store/Brake+Accessories/Brembo+Caliper+Adaptors+40+x+280#productdetails
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on June 08, 2018, 04:23
https://www.eurobrit.com.au/store/Brake+Accessories/Brembo+Caliper+Adaptors+40+x+280#productdetails

Thanks Blab, I have a set the same as those from Guzzitech. They only work with Marzocchi forks. They are designed to mount on the outside of the fork lugs and that leaves about a 55mm gap to the caliper mounts. They are too thick to mount on the inside of the Ceriani lugs and grinding them away to fit does not leave enough "meat" to give me reassurance they would be safe.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on June 08, 2018, 13:50
Replaced pivot bush in SF's clutch lever. It wasn't too bad for ovaling but DPO haf fitted a full thread screw as the male pivot and so it was a bit buggered. A few mm of valuable cable travel were being lost. A very quick job. I went for an oilite bush, maybe a bit soft, but so easy to replace and less than a £ each.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1721/41896554614_01a40cd8e7_c.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1741/40806792760_d33a321da1_c.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1722/28797596928_9970fd704b_c.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1730/40861899440_0a69ccaf73_c.jpg)


Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: andre g on June 08, 2018, 21:48
At my RGS after the German Forum Meeting at Sigis place in Hohenpeißenberg, a place with outstanding view to the alps, I had to change my rear tyre- wires to be seen :o.
So today, new rear tyre, new brake pads all three, oil and ready to go ...Andre
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Ventodue on June 09, 2018, 14:42
Replaced pivot bush in SF's clutch lever. <snip>  I went for an oilite bush, <snip>

Thanks for the post, Paul.  Haven't come across those before.  Looks good.  Where did you get it from?

Ciao

Craig
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on June 09, 2018, 22:08
Been traveling for work, the last fortnight. Between meals and drinks on a flight I had a horrible thought. Was trying to work out where the oil accumulated under the starter motor came from when I had the twin on the track.

Then recalled someone here mentioning the same thing, due to a crack at the rear starter motor mount. (Rowdy Pat I think)

Got home, kissed the dog and kicked the Mrs, went to bike and had a good look  :o :o
Sure enough ........ rear starter motor mount has grown a vagina.  And explains why the starter/generator cover holes a a tad hard to align.

I presume the only fix is to have it welded up before genital multilation sets in.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on June 09, 2018, 22:39
Went for a ride to West Head yesterday,north of Sydney. Longest ride so far , bike went well, road was wet but not raining and with new tires felt great.
 :) :) :)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on June 09, 2018, 23:14
Thanks for the post, Paul.  Haven't come across those before.  Looks good.  Where did you get it from?

Ciao  Craig 

Hi Craig,

Any bearing shop will have them. The nomenclature is usual based on... "ID-OD-Length" preceded by a manufacturers shorthand such as OB or AM. In the case of my SF levers a quick measure up showed I needed 081208. My local bearing supplier stocks them, but here they are on ebay.... https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=ob081208&_sacat=0

HTH, Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on June 09, 2018, 23:36
Went for a ride to West Head yesterday,north of Sydney. Longest ride so far , bike went well, road was wet but not raining
Hey Tom your bike is looking good I was just thinking rub out those ugly white pin lines and you have a proper red 3C and just ignore the silver frame for a while.
Brett myself and yours will make a trifecta of them.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on June 10, 2018, 00:11
Thanks Maurice, I am pretty keen to get it back to a black frame, and I wont really know all thats going on with this bike till I strip it completely so it really is a win win as far as a full repaint goes.Just fun enjoying it at the moment. Raining in Sydney now so its garage time again. ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: martymoose on June 10, 2018, 01:30
Sounds great Tom looking forward to meeting you might organise a run for next Sunday?  Sunday after is our bbq rego day.  If we get brett out on his 3c I will bring mine for the photo opportunity.
Marty
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on June 10, 2018, 02:03
Then recalled someone here mentioning the same thing, due to a crack at the rear starter motor mount. (Rowdy Pat I think)


So does this crack go into the cases, hence the oil Chris? You'll need to post a pic or two. Hadn't heard of this before now. Why would it crack there? Bolt done up when something was misaligned??
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on June 10, 2018, 02:04
That is defiantly a possibility Marty
Am as locked int the BBQ as I can be and next sunday sounds good. 3 x 3c has got to be good thing ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on June 10, 2018, 02:53
3 x 3c has got to be good thing ::)

= one x 9C
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on June 10, 2018, 03:46
Be four 3Cs if mine was going, sadly not. Did you pay the National Park entry fee, last I saw it was $11. The cost compared to corners past that gate just have me bypassing the park. Even if the view at West Head is gobsmacking. Take care at the Mona Vale rd end, the cops have been known to sit in the hidden driveways there.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on June 10, 2018, 04:08
Hey Vince, no I go either early or after 3.30 pm so no fees, also you can go around the back way via Akuna Bay, some of the best roads around, fully resurfaced by our hero PM Tony Abbott so him and his mates can cycle there. only good thing he has ever done.... Heaps of cops on Mona Vale Rd today just as you said. :(
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on June 10, 2018, 04:33
the cops have been known to sit in the hidden driveways there.

If I found a cop sitting in my driveway with a speed camera, I'd take him a cup of tea and a biscuit.

I've often seen idiots going past my place at crazy speed for a residential area. Speed limit is 50kph. Just yesterday evening some dickhead went past at about 100kph as it was starting to get dark. There are kids and pets in the area that he could easily have not seen in the fading light. The pricks should be publically shamed for that sort of thing. Put 'em in stocks in the middle of the village.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on June 10, 2018, 04:45
Where this happens is a 60k zone. It's depending on what way you coming, the start of 30 or 40 ks of National park comprising lots of 30 and 40k bends. That's my attraction, but I expect where it starts or ends on a longish straight, now in suburbia some get overexcited. You blow past some poor buggars bushland retreat at over 80 and making heaps of noise then fair enough get a ticket. But its the 10ks over stuff that I object too. BTW I do the same on all of the rds we ride, I avoid being a dickhead and speeding past any village if I can. It's the corners I want, not the straight bits between.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on June 10, 2018, 07:35
So does this crack go into the cases, hence the oil Chris? You'll need to post a pic or two. Hadn't heard of this before now. Why would it crack there? Bolt done up when something was misaligned??

Text sent, Q.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Ventodue on June 10, 2018, 11:21
Hi Craig,

Any bearing shop will have them.<snip>

Ta Paul.

(Last time I went by my 'local bearing shop', I discovered they'd instituted a minimum purchase policy.  Not great if all you want is a coupla of circlips - or a single oilite bush ...  :(.

What I fear is that they're just the kind of people who moan about business going over to the internet.  They've already moved to smaller premises, in a backwater industrial estate.  Hey ho ... It wouldn't surprise me if this lot soon join the long list of local businesses who one day 'suddenly' shut up shop).
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on June 10, 2018, 13:00
Ran into a bit of trouble on the Jota today.............they thought they could out roar me!..........they were wrong  :D

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010163%25202_zps4n2nyvft.jpg&hash=8192e5d2d08c4f43a78d83509585da3f) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010163%202_zps4n2nyvft.jpg.html)


(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010173%25202_zpsea3skkvb.jpg&hash=0611aa988a27a1afb6d12e63033490e7) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010173%202_zpsea3skkvb.jpg.html)

Malcolm will be happy  (bigthumb)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: veravista on June 10, 2018, 13:35
Dragged the beast out today for the local village fete.  Remarkably not the newest bike there, the sidecar is actually a 1980 Bonnie and there was another '79 Trumpet there. (The 1913 Triumph 3rd in is interesing - have been promised a go on it later)



Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: stevepm2011 on June 10, 2018, 16:55
Fixed the 1000 SFC's carburetion.
The idle was unstable, and it was not happy trickling through the village in 2nd gear.
I decided it was too rich, so went down from 65 idle jets (too big for a 120 engine, in my limited experience) to 60.
Problem solved!
Beer O'clock here.

Steve
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on June 10, 2018, 17:02
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010173%25202_zpsea3skkvb.jpg&hash=0611aa988a27a1afb6d12e63033490e7) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010173%202_zpsea3skkvb.jpg.html)

Calendar material.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on June 11, 2018, 11:20
Pulled carburettor off OR600 today, to replace original inlet stubs with new CNC versions as they had cracked.  Had to loosen oil lines on head in order to get better access to mounting bolts. 

Managed to snap oil line banjo bolt putting it back together, which was really smart.  Luckily, I was able to get broken bolt out of head, so just need new bolt to fix.

Sometimes, you get a break...

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on June 11, 2018, 12:31
If I found a cop sitting in my driveway with a speed camera, I'd take him a cup of tea and a biscuit.


So would I, as long as he was picking up the dickheads using the dual use path past our place as a racetrack. Half the little bastards don't even wear helmets. Used to be a well used cycle and walking path but not now, too bloody dangerous.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sweetas on June 11, 2018, 13:17
So would I, as long as he was picking up the dickheads using the dual use path past our place as a racetrack. Half the little bastards don't even wear helmets. Used to be a well used cycle and walking path but not now, too bloody dangerous.

probably have you charged with interfering with police business...... 

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on June 11, 2018, 13:31
probably have you charged with interfering with police business......

Only if they were unhappy with the quality of the resin in the tea  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on June 12, 2018, 15:29
Got the newly painted bodywork back today and fitted it.
Just got to connect the rear sub-loom to the main loom and then it's time for first ride.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1726/42705399122_cb39929dc7_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/284JkjS)2018-06-12 13.35.05 (https://flic.kr/p/284JkjS) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: SimonR501 on June 12, 2018, 15:45
That does look lovely Grant!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on June 12, 2018, 20:45
Well done Grant, looks great!, now ride the bloody thing will you
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on June 12, 2018, 21:25
That's the plan, but so far this year work has taken priority.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on June 13, 2018, 17:17
looks really great  ,  love it all, except the tail light but that"s not your fault. They always look stuck on as an after thought ...a 70s thing..
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on June 13, 2018, 17:26
I went with a Lucas style light as it was so much neater than the round or square CEV units.

Glad it's not my fault.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on June 13, 2018, 17:28
ha ha ! ;D ;D Bike looks great .
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on June 13, 2018, 17:37
Was supposed to be first ride today but came down with a migraine instead.  >:D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on June 13, 2018, 18:00
not pleasant by all accounts, my mum passed away on the 2nd so I ve been dealing with red tape, think they"d let you grieve for a bit!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on June 14, 2018, 02:21
Sorry to hear that Shaun. Condolences.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on June 14, 2018, 07:04
Condolences LJ.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Gerald on June 14, 2018, 07:47
my condolences LJ. know what you're going through, my mother passed away last year and the red tape has consumed a lot of my time.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on June 14, 2018, 16:41
Thanks guys for you kind words.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on June 14, 2018, 22:10
Thanks guys for you kind words.

Been there done that, hurts the soul.  She’ll always remain your mum.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sonomalaverda on June 15, 2018, 02:00
I'd like to add my condolences. We ( as in two brothers and me ) lost our mum aged 89 last year. A thoroughly good mum, and she even approved of my love of cars and motorcycles.

When I told her I had started racing Formula Ford 1600 in South Africa in the mid 1980s, she ( of course ) said " be careful darling ".

A week later an envelope arrived with a couple of Union Jack stickers and a note saying " stick these on the car..... ".
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on June 15, 2018, 07:32
great memory Alex!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on June 16, 2018, 03:23
Text sent, Q.
Here's that pic, Chris ... finally. Weekend = some time to spare!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on June 16, 2018, 03:43
That's one ugly looking thing, maybe you could use some of that wicking sealer that Loctite sells. Any structural impact with that crack.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: merlin on June 18, 2018, 19:04
I dug the sprint out of the back of the garage and put it on the bench ,ready to fit the battery and get it ready for its MOT
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on June 18, 2018, 20:16
That's one ugly looking thing, maybe you could use some of that wicking sealer that Loctite sells. Any structural impact with that crack.

I need to pull the stater off to see how far that crack goes. Then put a plan in action to repair. It’s not as bad as had invisaged, before I saw it, but doubt the caused the oil under the started after having the bike on the track. Curious none the less.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: aebbern on June 22, 2018, 20:15
Finally got my tank to clear the top of the Mikunis.  Used Red's angled inlet stubs along with some angled carb rubbers that Wolfgang suggested from an early '80s snowmobile. Even with that, I still had to raise the stops for the rear of the tank by 4-5 mm.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: aebbern on June 22, 2018, 23:39
New bike cover arrived today from Marty Gordon here on the forum.  Nice work - fits my 1200 almost like a custom job, and the material feels great.

Before & after:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on June 24, 2018, 02:25
Too pretty to cover up.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on June 24, 2018, 04:18
Too pretty to cover up.


That looks like the one you bought in Mallorca, Chris... ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on June 24, 2018, 04:43

That looks like the one you bought in Mallorca, Chris... ;D

 :( Hmmm, you are right ...... now hump seat though. Was in Townsville this week Andy, a few beers at the club, sunken boat has gone BTW.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverdalothar on June 24, 2018, 09:33
finally put the 1000 SFC back on its wheels. still a lot to do, but looks like a bike already...  ;D will post pictures later on...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on June 24, 2018, 09:35
finally put the 1000 SFC back on its wheels. still a lot to do, but looks like a bike already...  ;D will post pictures later on...

Tease.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on June 24, 2018, 16:44
Fitted Marcels" beautiful work today on the 3C.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on June 24, 2018, 22:02
Fitted Marcels" beautiful work today on the 3C.

do they work ?

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on June 24, 2018, 22:09
do they work ?

 ::)

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on June 24, 2018, 22:20
I've had around 20 pairs restored by him. Never had any problem so far.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverdalothar on June 25, 2018, 07:26
finally put the 1000 SFC back on its wheels. still a lot to do, but looks like a bike already...  ;D will post pictures later on...

at least one...:

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverda-register.de%2Fforum%2FphpBB3%2Fdownload%2Ffile.php%3Fid%3D1370%26amp%3Bt%3D1&hash=3917c296124d065d055193b4cd89a859)

Exhaust and carbs mounted, too. Need to fix some minor parts before I can make an appointment with OCT to first start it (promised them to do that at their site so they can check over everything again and make some adjustments if necessary). Will be on vacation the next two weeks, starting Monday next week, so will be end of July until I can get  her over to them. Hope they can squeeze it into their tight schedule...  ;)

Hope also to have Boba's beautiful Carbone parts until then. as you might know, he has a full set including tank, fairing, seat, passanger seat cover and front fender he can produce...  ;)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on June 25, 2018, 08:13
ho ho Red  ;D,  display purposes only.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: merlin on June 25, 2018, 16:33
took the sprint for its MOT ,it passed just need to tax it
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on June 25, 2018, 21:01
Is this MOT thing annually? All you blokes seem to shake in your boots every time it comes around.

One good thing about living where I do, is that once it’s done, it’s done for life. Unless you sell it, or allow the registration to expire.

Even then it’s pretty basic: lights get bright, blink left (puke) blink right (puke) tyres have grooves, suspension bounces, toot toot, brake light lights up, vroom volume doesn’t shatter windows, engine hasn’t morphed into a BSA (constant oil loss) and it’s done.

Then once we have the paperwork, it’s off with the indicators (as god intended).... and enjoy.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: merlin on June 25, 2018, 21:19
yes the MOT is an annual inspection ,checks brakes ,lights etc etc ,my tester is sympathetic to older bikes ,so we talk a lot while he is logged on to the computer to the dvla 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on June 25, 2018, 22:02
There's a good and and a "bad" side to it Chris.  You need to bring the sheer numbers into the equation to compare to Oz.  In Germany alone, with a population of 80-odd million, there were 63.7 million registered vehicles beginning 2018, in an area about 1/20 of the size of  Australia.  The rest of Europe is no less mobile.  EU population 2017 was 317million with roughly 290 million vehicles (bikes not counted!), total european pop. 511 million.  All on a continent only a bit larger than Oz... the vehicle concentration is a great deal higher.

The system does help to keep many unsafe vehicles off the road, but those that know what they're doing need to wade through heaps of red tape trying to get mods approved, which can be tiring at times.  Although many things have been brought into line over the past years, regulations still differ widely within the EU, each country retaining a certain amount of sovereignty. 

Granted, the testing often involves quite a bit of nit-picking, but it basically ensures road-worthiness and safety requirements are fulfilled.  If you could see the condition of many heavy vehicles from the Balkan states passing through at high speeds on the german Autobahn, you would have a great deal more understanding for a mandatory testing system!  Bald tyres and insufficient lighting are just the tip of the proverbial iceberg, hardly working brakes, worn steering systems, broken axles and chassis components are very often found at road-side checks.  It's very different having a 60-ton juggernaut without brakes ploughing through a village or a road train breaking down in the middle of nowhere on the Birdsville Track.   

And don't think the bikers would be any better... :o  At least the responsibility sense of bikers seems to increase with their age, but you just need to look a the bikes of the kids to realise that many are playing with their lives.  Their road behaviour is an entire other issue.

German TÜV tests are bi-annually for privately-owned vehicles, annually for commercial personal transport, taxis/busses, etc.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on June 26, 2018, 00:23
It still happens here Piet, every now and then after some horribly crash the cops and Transport Inspectors raid company depos and find all sorts of major safety issues fines the crap out of them and a few years later it happens again to a different company. What would fix it is jail time for Company Directors if you knowingly allow dangerous trucks on the rd causing a death. Proving this sint easy though.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on June 26, 2018, 04:27
In Germany alone, with a population of 80-odd million,

piet

You have 80 odd million, and we have 26 million odd people ..... explains a lot!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on June 26, 2018, 07:18
Testing is coming to Norway within a couple of years. It has been fought against by the MC organisation, which managed to delay it a few years, and the state agrees with them, however "Brussels" has demanded it. Roadworthiness is a practically non existant factor in investigated mc accidents here, and the road authority agrees that owners here are generally enthusiasts who keep on top of maintenance. On the practical side, mc workshops are few and far between in this long stretched out decentralised country. It is going to be very hard for lots of people. Either organising transport in the icy road non riding 7 or 8 months of the year, or getting booked in during the riding season. It will however be a great financial boost for the bike shops. The mc population is ageing and many have a collection of several bikes. It will be interesting to see if people consider it worth the bother, when they only ride a few thousand km a year between their prides and joys, and if there a sympathetic testers who appreciate old bikes.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on June 26, 2018, 07:26
Yet ironically the UK has just exempted vehicles over 40 years old.
They are now also exempt from road tax as well.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on June 26, 2018, 07:28
My fingers are crossed.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on June 26, 2018, 08:29
No test on bikes in France. I'm all against it. I very much doubt that the state of the motorcycle park is responsible for a lot of trauma.

Cars are supposed to be tested every two years as from thier fourth year. The tests have become more extensive and stringent as from this spring. My old diesel Citroen will end up being legislated off the road due to emission tests.

Then again, there's a certain amount of corruption involved meaning some unfit vehicles pass the tests.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Ventodue on June 26, 2018, 08:43
No test on bikes in France <snip>.

One of the good aspects of living here - for the moment.  With 5 bikes in the stable, going thru the annual MOT test in the UK was an expensive, time-consuming and pointless exercise as far as I was concerned.

But as Tippie says, that's likely to change in 2020, thanks to something called 'Brussels'.  All done on the grounds of safety, nat', despite the fact that the statistics don't prove the case.  Guess I'll be 'reviewing my options', as and when ...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Beucars on June 26, 2018, 10:39
Switzerland: normal vehicules every 2 years, classics (+30 years) every 6 years

Also group of classics on the same number plate, hence 1 time insurance and tax for several motorcycles or cars.   
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on June 29, 2018, 21:47
building a 750 for a customer and he gave me a set of Fucked Feked headers to use with his mufflers, unfortunately they didn't match up as headers are made from imperial tubing and mufflers are metric tube
I could have used tube expanders on the muffler to open it up which I have as needed to find 1.4mm all told but decided to modify the headers instead
machined up a split tube holder and used that to clamp the headers in place in the mill, worked out well in the end

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1786/43095344971_aaebd324f8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28EbUDa)29th June GG exhaust 1 (https://flic.kr/p/28EbUDa)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/922/43045189552_6a61613dc2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28zKRby)29th June GG exhaust 2 (https://flic.kr/p/28zKRby)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/916/43095341451_2e85c610ce_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28EbTAt)29th June GG exhaust 3 (https://flic.kr/p/28EbTAt)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on June 30, 2018, 00:23
A nice looking bike there Red.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on June 30, 2018, 02:35
So you were able to remove .7mm of metal from the OUTSIDE of the header?? Very clever. Are they stainless custom headers? Or std that have been coated?

Wish I had a funky milling machine!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on June 30, 2018, 07:24
So you were able to remove .7mm of metal from the OUTSIDE of the header??

Not an easy thing to do. It got me wondering whether there's such a thing as a tube shrinker, like an expander in reverse.  It turns out there is. Dunno why Red didn't make one of them.  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAnzRRjKPpc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAnzRRjKPpc)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on June 30, 2018, 10:01

That is a good bit of Kit that and looks way cheaper than that mill of Reds ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tyrone on June 30, 2018, 16:48
Put more miles on the SF (my favourite bike ever although I miss the extra poke the mirage gives) and now changing the oil on the Mirage, have we ever had an oil thread on here?😆😉
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on June 30, 2018, 21:29
Best not mention GTX.. :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tyrone on July 01, 2018, 06:13
Best not mention GTX.. :o
I did mention it once but I think I got away with it 😂
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on July 01, 2018, 08:02
Very cold but sunny in Melbourne so took a trip out to the Pine Grove Hotel in Upper Beaconsfield for a pint of White Rabbit dark ale.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: henrywillms on July 01, 2018, 23:29
You Aussies would not know cold if it bit in you in the ass....but if you need an excuse for a beer, I'm sure it was colder than a witches tit.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tyrone on July 01, 2018, 23:56
Took Panacea (the SF) out for a couple of hundred miles up to tonfannau races and a quick look around some of the fantastic mountain roads here in Wales.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Is2 on July 02, 2018, 00:00
You Aussies would not know cold if it bit in you in the ass....but if you need an excuse for a beer, I'm sure it was colder than a witches tit.

Thank fuck for that. 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on July 02, 2018, 00:12
Ok it gets to -40c where you are but riding stops at 0c. Well, guess what, it still stops at around the same temp here in Oz. It's the black Ice that stops you all around the world unless your running spiked tyres. So to recap, we ride when its as cold as riding can still be done in Oz just like everybody else where they are. And get just as cold. I love my heated grips, and am looking at these just like Toby wears in The Dakar.
http://www.mx1west.com/avade-heated-jersey.aspx
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on July 02, 2018, 01:21
You Aussies would not know cold if it bit in you in the ass....but if you need an excuse for a beer, I'm sure it was colder than a witches tit.

Agree  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on July 02, 2018, 03:08
I found the best way to handle black ice is to get off the bitumen and ride on the gravel verge.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: drikko on July 02, 2018, 03:16
You Aussies would not know cold if it bit in you in the ass....but if you need an excuse for a beer, I'm sure it was colder than a witches tit.

We don't need no excuses for a beer, the fact that we're not dead is excuse enough and yer right about not knowing what cold is, must be why we're overrun with fecking pommy bastids....
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on July 02, 2018, 09:25
Talking about cold weather I took my youngest boy out on the Alpino yesterday and it was about 8 degrees in the sun brrr lucky that bike makes so much noise it distracts you from the cold.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on July 02, 2018, 10:04
Baby Jota looking great Maurice,  8) 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on July 02, 2018, 14:51
Baby Jota looking great Maurice,  8) 8)
Below zero in Preston (Melbourne, not UK!) this morning. Don't tell me that ain't cold on a moto!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on July 05, 2018, 06:48
Removed motor from frame today :), thanks Red for that pic of how you do it , very handy.
now all I have to do is straighten the left hand down tube and im of to the painters ;D ;D

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on July 05, 2018, 08:39
took TOG out for an airing yesterday, doing a Vintage club run, from Ide Hill (local to me) right down through Kent and Sussex ending up at a very pleasant country pub for lunch and then an alternate route back, al of them small country roads, only crossing the bigger ones when necessary. Around 130 miles ridden today starting at 0930 and getting back home at 1700, not a very high average speed! take into account around 90 minutes stopped for lunch and you get the picture.
The Old Duffer turned out on his Kawasaki 550 and he seemed OK, but with his 83rd birthday looming he chose to leave the 1200Anni at home, telling me that he now has to do more than 20MPH at all times on it,  or its a bit wobbly, so very slow country roads he is now avoiding with that bike. He is however hatching plans to go to Breganze in 2019, which will be as he approaches his 84th birthday.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on July 05, 2018, 10:31
I can see why your bike hasn't been running right Tom. The intake spigots are blocked.  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on July 05, 2018, 10:40
I can see why your bike hasn't been running right Tom. The intake spigots are blocked.  ;)

dammit I wish Id seen that before I pulled the whole thing apart, now where did I put those Dellorto thingies? :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on July 06, 2018, 21:08
Just polished the Laverda and installed some long wished for small rubber "handles" for the side mirrors. Pretty tired now after 10 hour working day, so driving will be tomorrow.

Kind regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on July 06, 2018, 21:21
Removed the pod filters to let it breathe better, then fitted some bellmouths.
Next phase will involve fabricating some sort of air filter box, made more difficult due to the monoshock top mount.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1825/43242946571_74319c0955_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28Tepsk)a12 (https://flic.kr/p/28Tepsk) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1766/42313021515_5b8cdbef39_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27t4i8H)2018-07-05 13.52.42 (https://flic.kr/p/27t4i8H) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on July 07, 2018, 06:25
Looks good, Grant. I'm a big fan of airboxes - had planned to accommodate my FCRs into the std SF airbox, but need to rethink it due to access. Maybe a car flexible intake tube might be adaptable to join bellmouth to SF airbo? If I change to smaller bellmouths I can use the original rubber intake tubes. New bellmouths is a big expense on FCRs - and I like the shape of the Keihin ones that came with them (from a GSX-R1100 Suzuki). If nec, I'll just fit a large foam sock filter over the whole intake assembly - bit fugly, but better than zip.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on July 08, 2018, 18:32
Twins taking a 200km trip on empty North Devon roads taking in Bideford Quay.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1804/41469899830_f95ada8f04_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26by5qW)IMG_0750 (1) (https://flic.kr/p/26by5qW) by [url=https:
//flic.kr/p/28S9LVN](https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1804/43230726752_3caa5a83fe_k.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154579129@N04/)IMG_0756 (https://flic.kr/p/28S9LVN) by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/154579129@N04/
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on July 08, 2018, 19:38
Lovely pics Shaun.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Gerald on July 08, 2018, 19:54
Nice 750's  (bigthumb)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on July 08, 2018, 21:07
Thanks Guys, great bikes.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on July 14, 2018, 09:07
Cleaned, fixed up a frame mount that was left over from the old gearshift crossover, painted, polished, and more polish. Looks good, then opened up the taps  ::) fuel pissing out of right carb ....... the plastic hose mount to the carb was loose, go figure. Tightened that and starter didn’t want to engage, fuck me. The crunch at the end of starter spin meant it engaged, another push of the button and it fired it up.

Once warm, would only run on one, just of idle (and I mean just off) a little throttle and two bangers  :o ..... 100% miffed, could be water ingress at the plug leads.

So it’s all ready for the Concours tomorrow, hopefully Bruce will have his fancy camera there, for calendar shot or two.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on July 14, 2018, 11:04
took TOG out yesterday eveing on a short run to the Pat Mahoney bike night nearby, a trip of 22 miles by motorway or 18 by country lanes, so chose the latter, the ride reminded me that I currently have a broken speedo cable (a recycled item that was in any case too long for common sense) and a very week gearbox return spring which was pointed out to me by Mc Sock a fortnight ago, now its worse and gear selection is a bit hap hazard, its not broken, just weakened, the huge mileage that it has done has actually worn it out, I have seen them broken, and wrongly installed, but never worn out and weak, pre-empting the situation, I have already had delivered to me a new cable and spring from Dickkie the four eyed brummie. trouble is I don't feel like doing the repairs "on the ground" and my 1958 350 AJS is currently blocking the work ramp, having a cylinder head overhaul, so yesterday I could have gone on my pan European, but that was blocked in by my son Davids transit van which is having a new drivers foot well welded in and because of that was tempted to use his Fireblade, but couldn't find the door keys for his shed, the Chevvy was parked up near the front door and might not fit the small lanes, so TOG and no speedo + bad gearchange it was, could have always stayed home and watched shite on TV
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Smartv11 on July 14, 2018, 11:48
Clem, I’m pleased you made the effort, it was good to meet you 😁and thanks for the beer 🍺
The bike  night was again a great evening with 4 Laverdas present
Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on July 24, 2018, 10:55
Picked up my tank from Redistrip this morning, Tank is well striped, bit of scuffing on the left side as evident in the second photo but im hoping most of that will polish out.... :(
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: lavgert on July 24, 2018, 11:14
... rare, early 3C tank! What happened?
Ciao, Gert
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on July 24, 2018, 11:22
Assume the damage was there and uncovered by the stripping.

Filler can hide many an embarassing DPO moment...
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/926/42704189235_40097ceed3.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on July 24, 2018, 11:26
exactly as Paul said, expected some bog to be there but a bit blown away by the extent, and the crap repair that the DPO tried.
Am fairly confident I can get it saved, good thing is the tank is otherwise sound.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on July 24, 2018, 11:30
... rare, early 3C tank! What happened?
Ciao, Gert

Gert is the direction of the filler cap the only difference or are there other factors that mark it as early?

Tom
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on July 24, 2018, 12:57
Now Tom I know Gert couldn't see this in your photo but I bet there is a seam weld right along the centre line of the tank put your finger inside the filler and you will feel it!!!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on July 24, 2018, 21:20
Now Tom I know Gert couldn't see this in your photo but I bet there is a seam weld right along the centre line of the tank put your finger inside the filler and you will feel it!!!!

Maurice, didn’t the later tanks have the centre seam? I only ask, because I have a triple tank in storage that has a welded centre seam.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on July 24, 2018, 22:12
put your finger inside the filler and you will feel it!!!!

Sure is, and just visible on the out side when you know its there.  :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on July 25, 2018, 12:08
stripped the next 750 engine to build, some work may be required though before this runs again  :o
splash of oil and a quick blow out with the air gun, be sweet as

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/837/42912668834_0d09d288af_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28o3DoA)some work required 2 (https://flic.kr/p/28o3DoA)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/835/28742241987_c9a8c0a797_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KMRvbk)some work required (https://flic.kr/p/KMRvbk)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on July 25, 2018, 12:13
Why the hell did you split those cases, Red?! It would have freed up nicely with new oil and a fresh battery   :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on July 25, 2018, 12:26
stripped the next 750 engine to build, some work may be required though before this runs again  :o
splash of oil and a quick blow out with the air gun, be sweet as

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/837/42912668834_0d09d288af_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28o3DoA)some work required 2 (https://flic.kr/p/28o3DoA)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/835/28742241987_c9a8c0a797_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KMRvbk)some work required (https://flic.kr/p/KMRvbk)
Fuck me  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: lavgert on July 25, 2018, 13:50
... I fear my barnfind 1000 3CL will have the same look inside the engine :o :o :o
Ciao, Gert
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: SimonR501 on July 25, 2018, 14:08
I think we have another calendar shot there!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on July 25, 2018, 16:48
And I thought my engine was bad. Where did you find that? On the end of a boat mooring chain?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on July 25, 2018, 19:13
Red doing age related patina now Maurice??  :D, surely not!!!!! fuck that's bad,
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on July 25, 2018, 20:51
And I thought my engine was bad. Where did you find that? On the end of a boat mooring chain?

is an engine from West Aussie, fair bit north of you though


Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on July 25, 2018, 22:17
Wow, cant wait for the before and after shot, very impressive  for someone to save it.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on July 26, 2018, 19:28
New beautifully made CDI loom fitted to 3C from Richard Prowse at Motorcylce Wiring Specialists in Cheltenham.Happy days.

http://www.motorcyclewiringspecialists.co.uk/
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on July 27, 2018, 13:59
Just nipped out for  test before weather breaks.

[(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/858/43623933152_fd86e534ae_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29sU4uu)[

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/927/42767424885_dd2105a84b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28adeqz)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on July 27, 2018, 23:06
That is one sexy looking 3c, nice work :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on July 27, 2018, 23:16
Thanks TC,!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on July 27, 2018, 23:22
what number is it? mine is #2138
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on July 28, 2018, 01:20
Early morning run out to Kulnurra to catch up with Brian Wilson from NSW Laverda Club, and Peter Addison who I must have known for over 40 years.  Great stories from Peter about touring with Mike Hailwood and Jim Scaysbrook.  The temperature was a bit brisk this morning, but no traffic at all on the way out around daylight.

Great to be out for a couple of hours this morning - now back home in front of heater...

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on July 28, 2018, 08:35
Hi TC  mine is 1580.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Simon Y on July 30, 2018, 15:34
My Jota obtained is first MOT for more than 20 years today. :D :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on July 30, 2018, 18:15
If at first you don't  succeed... ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Victor Robatti on July 31, 2018, 10:56
Rebuilding 3 Laverda Scooters 1959 1961 Slow process, Have one powder coated front end built, starting to fit fuel tank. Engine to be installed( completely rebuilt ) ,Then fit all wiring and cables,. If anyone has parts for these please let me know.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on July 31, 2018, 11:17
 (needpics)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on July 31, 2018, 23:44
well today I finally got to sort out my old Jota pedals, that I've been having on the shelf for a decade.
So, I filed the rough casting edges off and had them sanded. Installed both new bolts, locking nuts and two brand new Laverda 500 toe pieces from Montydon, who tragically passed away soon after I bought them. Each side complete with bolt and nut, pedal and toe piece, weighs in at 116 gram. The original SFC1000 models weighs 143 gram, so saving 54 gram and having easier shifting and far better looks.
The central holders that are screwed together are modified by my friend Peder some years ago, to adapt two narrow ball bearings each side, so they move real smooth with no play ever.
Anyway, here's a pic of the article.

Kind regards,
Jacques

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on August 01, 2018, 00:04
Installed both new bolts, locking nuts and two brand new Laverda 500 toe pieces from Montydon, who tragically passed away soon after I bought them.

Phew, lucky they fitted OK, otherwise the return policy could have been a nightmare!
 8) Looks good.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on August 01, 2018, 02:14
I've got a Jota lever setup on my SF, but found that the knurled alloy toepiece ripped my shoes/boots, so used a bolt with a std 3C rubber over it.

Nice work Redfox.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on August 01, 2018, 02:48
I didnt like the vibs through the metal peg so drill out the rubber covers and glued them on, worked great
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on August 02, 2018, 21:53
I like it and it gives me less travel to shift. Easier. Vibes? Nope, only an expression of harmony when the Laverda and the rider is in tune.
So, today I finally changed the original rubber rear brake hose for a steel braided one. Overhauled the rear goldline caliper and changed fluid on front and rear. Need to bed pads in tomorrow. But I forgot how the hose was originally routed :)   If someone have a clear Picture or explanation, I would be gratefull.

Kind regards,
jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverdalothar on August 02, 2018, 22:40
Hello Jacques,

if you look at the cut-outs in the rear mudguard (or better: the plastic battery protection shield that sits behind the battery, screwed to the frame), I think it is quite obvious how it starts on the right side: From the top of the brake master 45 degrees front left, between frame tube and the plastic cover. Then over to the other side, exit at the equivalent place and down to the swing-arm. left of the swing-arm, you guide it down to below the swing-arm and from there to the rod that connects the caliper-holding plate with the frame. zip-tie it to that rod until it reaches the caliper.

that is at least how I did it.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverda SF on August 02, 2018, 23:38
You really don't need a battery flopping around with a pin hole in the tank on a SF.

It will FLAME your ARSE.

That can happen with a Breganzie.

You have to secure the Battery and ensure there is NO Weak Metal under the Gas Tank.

My solution to that MESS was to construct a base to fit the original battery tray using Aluminum, Maple or a Hickory Hockey stick buffered by a layer of rubber then tie the battery down with a good old leather belt.

Great dampening - Against vibration and shock.

Definitely poke around the base of your tank for weak spots and repair it with something like Lepage's or 3M 24Hr Metal Epoxy.

The biggest issue with the Jaguar V12 XJS was that it burnt before it reached the end of it's life Cycle.


This is not the day I'm going to die - Ride Safely ;o)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on August 03, 2018, 02:38
Vibes? Nope, only an expression of harmony ...

Expression of harmony eh?  I like it. I might use that next time someone asks about my bike's vibration  :D
It's not quite as indecorous as euphemisms like throbbing, pulsating, quivering ...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverda SF on August 03, 2018, 02:42
Dellorto:

Love vibrations just make sure your seals are top notch or will blow a Head Gasket - LOL
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on August 03, 2018, 04:08
throbbing, pulsating, quivering ...

 :-X  :-X  :-X
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on August 03, 2018, 22:12
Hi Lothat, Thanks for the explanation. I did get the general idea, but when it reaches the swingarm, I don't get it.
So, I passed it from the brake master tthrough the hole in the lower rear mudguard, horizontally to the other side , through the similar cut out, and then Down on the outside of the rear swing arm, not to interfere with the rear tire, then under and along the rear swing arm, zip ties two placed on that, and over to the rear brake caliper.
Where I am confused, it how it comes Down from the cut out to the swing arm. Should it just sit close to the swing arm, or should it go say through a narrower passing at the mounting of the foot rest plate, and then under the rear swing arm?

Kind regards,
Jacques

Hello Jacques,

if you look at the cut-outs in the rear mudguard (or better: the plastic battery protection shield that sits behind the battery, screwed to the frame), I think it is quite obvious how it starts on the right side: From the top of the brake master 45 degrees front left, between frame tube and the plastic cover. Then over to the other side, exit at the equivalent place and down to the swing-arm. left of the swing-arm, you guide it down to below the swing-arm and from there to the rod that connects the caliper-holding plate with the frame. zip-tie it to that rod until it reaches the caliper.

that is at least how I did it.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on August 04, 2018, 19:38
Run out on the 3C s to Hartland Quay,

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/931/43846697981_1b337e6e8e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29NzMHp) (https://flic.kr/p/29NzMHp)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sonomalaverda on August 04, 2018, 20:46
What a pair......
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on August 04, 2018, 20:58
What a pair......

Indeed, a pair I’d just love to play with.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on August 04, 2018, 23:47
Run out on the 3C s to Hartland Quay,

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/931/43846697981_1b337e6e8e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29NzMHp)
 (https://flic.kr/p/29NzMHp)
A perfect set of book ends is the blue bikes Alans?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on August 05, 2018, 00:15
How sweet they both look together, things of true beauty  8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on August 05, 2018, 02:40
Went for a short blat on the Jota today. Checking the log book revealed that I hadn't ridden it since February. Got too many bikes and only one bum to sit on them with.  How do you manage to ride two at once LJ?

Met up with a bunch from my bike club. My bike was easily the oldest and dirtiest machine there.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 05, 2018, 03:11
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1774/43804685872_054d370022_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29JSsYG)2018-08-03 12.57.41 (https://flic.kr/p/29JSsYG) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on August 05, 2018, 06:19
Checking the log book revealed that I hadn't ridden it since February.

You have to fill out an entry in a logbook each time you ride your bike?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on August 05, 2018, 07:07
You have to fill out an entry in a logbook each time you ride your bike?

Yes, but only because I have historic registration, which is a lot cheaper than normal road registration. The only condition is that you're restricted to 52 outings per year (once a week) so have to keep track of rides in a log book.

I have 5 bikes to choose from so I never get anywhere near the 52 rides in a year for any of them.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on August 05, 2018, 09:25
A perfect set of book ends is the blue bikes Alans?

Yes Maurice, indeed it is. (bigthumb)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on August 05, 2018, 09:34
I fill in a log book every time I use a centre fire rifle (I ignore rim fire rifles or shotguns of any weight, as not the same level of grief) because the requirement in the UK is "justification" no justification and you have your rifles taken from you and license cancelled, this is wrong, if you want to shoot once in (say) four years, or not at all, that should be your free choice, it is therefore much easier to get out the log book at the 5 year license renewal and be able to quickly remember where and when I used my kit, or why I have not used it, sickness, etc. Its not a legal requirement at all, but I find it useful, the cops are then able to check (usually) that I was where I was on the day I said I was, although I have no idea what checking they actually do. They also check how much ammunition I buy (which is recorded at point of sale) so, if you haven't bought any ammo?, you haven't used your rifle! so I buy it, get it recorded, and bang away at a range "zeroing"  no account taken of my brother in law in France using the same calibre and the fact that he buys 10,000 at a time and then sells on to me (unrecorded) a few hundred rounds at a time,, both used and kept in France outside of UK jurisdiction,They are on the backs of firearms license holders for sure, and they encourage withdrawal from this activity, by way of the hassle, of this I am certain, they should spend more time on checking the mental state of license holders and suitability rather than justification, there is no danger is safe people holding rifles and ammunition for them to be hardly or never used, as long as the security against theft is top notch. it would seem that there are more murders in London per anum now, (guns and knives) than New York, but the old saying still holds true.

When guns are outlawed only the outlaws will have guns

CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on August 05, 2018, 10:26
It's the same here Clem, after Port Arther it was cracked down on to the max. Some middle ground would be good, not as extreme in one direction as the USA and here now the other. I know some who still have guns and compliance is far from easy. Before Port Arther, it was stupidly easy and cheap to get SKK ex Chinese semi-auto military weapons. And to me, that was a bit nuts, after Port Arther even Gold Medal winning shotgun trap shooters had shotguns taken for stupid to my mind politically correct reasons. Eg one drink-driving conviction, thereby missing an Olympic Even.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on August 05, 2018, 11:30
I emptied the fuel tank twice on my Alpino today and those noisy Monty pipes have given me an ear ache!!!!
 But it was a shitload of fun  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: a14rgs on August 05, 2018, 11:42
I emptied the fuel tank twice on my Alpino today and those noisy Monty pipes have given me an ear ache!!!!
 But it was a shitload of fun  ;)
PARDON??!! :laugh:

I put 10 quids worth of fuel in your new 1200, to see how it rides and to scrub in the new tyres. It was like riding a 3-cylinder pogo stick! Just as well you've got some spare shocks to send over - and I'll put some oil in the forks too ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on August 05, 2018, 15:55
Early morning meetup with some freshly squeezed orange  8)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010199_LI_zps4c3srpsa.jpg&hash=48c16424e01bed45f496f02a31096026) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010199_LI_zps4c3srpsa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on August 06, 2018, 03:22
When guns are outlawed only the outlaws will have guns

Apologies for the misuse of this thread, but I find it difficult to let that comment go without a response.

That's a very puerile statement Clem. The pro-gun lobby has been trotting out that fatuous argument for years.

It's not outlaws who shoot people. They're more into shooting each other over turf wars than taking pot-shots at the general public. Good luck to them with that.

By far the majority of shootings are caused by "normal" members of society. Crimes of passion, murder-suicides, mass shootings, suicides, etc. Mass shootings are usually perpetrated by men (don't know of any female mass shooter) who are fucked in the head. The typical misfit loner who feels some kind of grudge against society. How often do you hear them described as "a quiet bloke who kept to himself". He kept to himself because he was too much of a fucking nut-job to have any friends. Restricted access to guns means the types who fit the above profiles will find it way more difficult to get their hands on a semi-automatic assault rifle. And that's a good thing.

And how will it make any difference to outlaws if the general law-abiding public is armed anyway? Normal people are not likely to be toting their hunting rifle or shotgun when they go about their daily business. Having a gun locked away in a safe at home is no protection against an outlaw in the street. If you're in a bank when an armed robbery occurs, what can you (as a gun owner) do? Politely ask them to wait while you nick home and grab your shotty?

If you don't believe me, you only have to look at the gun death statistics for Australia before and after 1996 (the year of the Port Arthur massacre when very tight gun laws were introduced). Gun deaths dropped by an average of 67%. See the graph below.

I'm glad I live in Australia where there's very tight control of guns.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on August 06, 2018, 03:35
PARDON??!! :laugh:

I put 10 quids worth of fuel in your new 1200, to see how it rides and to scrub in the new tyres. It was like riding a 3-cylinder pogo stick! Just as well you've got some spare shocks to send over - and I'll put some oil in the forks too ;)
Alan obviously you have never ridden old faithful, its the same so he'll never know the difference... or is it that he is sending over the shocks from it ???  :P
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on August 06, 2018, 04:13
Quote
I'm glad I live in Australia where there's very tight control of guns.

Ditto!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on August 06, 2018, 04:34
Well said, Cam. Agree wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on August 06, 2018, 06:31
And if you need any further convincing that prohibition of gun ownership works ...

Annual gun death rates per million people:
In USA (almost no gun control) = about 90
In Australia (strict gun control) = less than 2

Sorry. End of rant.
Back to normal service  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on August 06, 2018, 07:26
Back to normal service
With my Laverda. Actually went for another ride, several in the last few weeks in fact. I often hear people say after riding a bike as old as ours: "It really shows just how much better bikes are today from these old dungers". When I ride mine it reassures my why I just can´t sell it. I even accompanied my son who rode it around Oslo in the scorching (!!) 25 deg summer heat for several hours, practicing for his licence, as the VFR water cooling he usually practices on would have struggled with the fan going flat out all the time. That practice on a weirdo rh (race pattern setup) gearchange etc had him assessed as ready to go for his test, according to the traffic school.
Then rushing back from a coast ride with my wife on the back at 135kmh in the sunday motorway traffic in time for my evening watch, I have to fit a fairing, all this "naked bikes are great, the wind takes the weight off your wrists" shit, doesn´t mention that it also tries to take your head off your shoulders.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on August 06, 2018, 07:31
That was my thought when you could run around at 145kph, that was like doing chin-ups for a couple of hours. Not so much now as that's handcuff manoeuvres.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: a14rgs on August 06, 2018, 08:24
Alan obviously you have never ridden old faithful, its the same so he'll never know the difference... or is it that he is sending over the shocks from it ???  :P
:laugh: :laugh:
Brett, I've never ridden a Laverda with suspension as bad as this one :o
Hopefully a replacement pair of (working) shocks and an overhaul of the front forks will see a marked improvement...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on August 06, 2018, 08:46
Recently got my (much maligned ::)) series 2 fairing back after another bout of repairs. This time used a top notch fixer (who took forever) and paid accordingly :o
Anyway, have been running without it for quite some time and while the bike felt faster (acceleration), more agile and a bit more hooligan, after putting the fairing back on, just made me remember why I really like it, what a difference!
Back in its element on the open road at a decent pace, it is far superior. The only problem is you just want to keep going faster.

So not only do they look great ;D ;D they work beautifully................(and to make it worse for some on here, it's Orange :o ;))
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on August 06, 2018, 08:54
John P has, together with a police notice of unroadworthiness on the Anni  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on August 06, 2018, 09:11
he made me feel sick watching the continually and random rising and falling, never mind riding it!
determined to get to Baskerville, he got trailered the 40 miles back home, got out his 550 Kawasaki and turned up early on Saturday, stupid old git, he was 80 at the time and last week turned 83.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on August 06, 2018, 09:48
Cams rant reminded me of the other day I was paying for fuel, a gun holster bloke was in there, everyone including me were like  :o WTF. Until the plain clothes detective said he was there for the camera footage from the night before.

I prefer to have gun laws here.

Nice picture of the freshly squeezed oranges further back
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sonomalaverda on August 06, 2018, 15:46
Come and live in America if you want further proof that Australia has got it right.....
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on August 07, 2018, 01:41
Ironically, there are more guns in Australia now than there were before the compulsory buy back. Just not as many semi-auto, pumps and lever actions with high capacity magazines.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on August 07, 2018, 02:33
Reckon it's pretty cool living in a country where you don't feel the need to go armed to protect yourself from your fellow citizens. 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on August 07, 2018, 04:35
Reckon it's pretty cool living in a country where you don't feel the need to go armed to protect yourself from your fellow citizens. 8)

You got hat rootin tootin right, pilgrem.  ;D

As for what did I do for my Laverda today: I was on a plane, hence, had a bit of spare time to contemplate how to make my seat base for my new seat foam and cover, coming soon I hope.

I've got it sussed.   
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on August 07, 2018, 09:58
Got tired of having to find a spanner every time I wanted to lift the SF seat, so fashioned a captive nut for the inside and an eye for the outside. The eye can be turned by hand, the plate on the back of the nut abuts to the frame and stops it turning.The eye seconds as a luggage strapping point. Let's see if it loosens under the vibes.....
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/933/42053665390_b8b8019f0e.jpg)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/938/43901571631_e4be386dc0_z.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverdalothar on August 07, 2018, 10:15
interesting solution. When I had the 750 SF(0), I used some bike quick release fasteners from bikes:

https://www.bike-components.de/en/Hubs/Quick-Release/

klack - klack - off the seat goes. Worked really well and was almost invisible.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on August 07, 2018, 10:33
Hi Lothar, I tried the quick releases, yes they work OK don't they! But I couldn't get a satisfactory solution for luggage strapping with that, so went along this route. P
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverdalothar on August 07, 2018, 11:29
99% of my time I ride without any baggage, so my main focus was on getting the seat on and off easily.

I agree, yours is definitely better when it comes to storing something on the rear end of the seat. And as it works as intended, it is for sure not much slower or more problematic than the solution I used. So - well done!  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on August 07, 2018, 16:57
nice solution, I use these on the gt, got a pair to fit on the SF ,nip up seem to stay on!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Metric-Thread-Knurl-Nuts-Fasteners-Hardware-Knurled-M3-M4-M5-M6-M8/371488574623?var=640533950884
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on August 08, 2018, 01:20
I used something similar to this on my brother's 3C, and welded a nut on the inside of the frame.

The handles can be indexed to whatever position you like (well, in 60 deg increments anyway, so 6 positions). If positioned downward, they can double as hooks for tying luggage onto the seat.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on August 08, 2018, 09:33
I arranged it very similarly to what you have Haggis on your twin, mine being on a new bike in 1973, but I arranged the loop (on mine it was oval) to be off centre and very heavy on one side, I then tightened the loop so that the heavy side was at the bottom, it took a bit of careful filing to get that bit OK, but this was my solution to it not coming off, on the basis that if it shakes loose it has got to get past 180 degrees before any more can occur, I never saw it move at all, on the inside I made a plate (well more of a thick sheet) with a nut welded on it  that was also fixed by the top suspension mount, new bike! what me weld a nut on??? OK, you guessed it, I welded a nut on! but it was three years old at that point.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Chappo on August 11, 2018, 05:50
I went for Broke.

I came back through Wollombi and Freeman's Waterhole.

(https://i.imgur.com/LaaEez0.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on August 11, 2018, 06:17
Pissing down with rain so 'I came, I saw, I polished'.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on August 11, 2018, 06:55
Did the Cima ride to Thurual on my new pistoned 3c, best sausage rolls I have had in a very long time. Bike went great.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: aebbern on August 13, 2018, 01:09
Left thumb has finally healed well enough to manage the clutch on my 1200 (broke it back in May).  Got out today for a quick blast NW of Calgary, big storms chasing me the whole time, but made it back before the clouds burst. Only 50 km in on the bike since the rebuild - it's still oil-tight and running very well. Can't wait to be able to put some long trips in on her again.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 13, 2018, 02:20
Tidy. (bigthumb)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on August 13, 2018, 03:25
Pissing down with rain so 'I came, I saw, I polished'.

We don't get rain here anymore ........... it's dryer than nun's nanny.

Nice looking 1200 aebbern.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on August 13, 2018, 09:06
Finally started on my custom centrestand for the SF so I can run both pipes underslung. Had already done one side for the factory 2/1, but need to have it double sided. Wish the factory had made the SF stand a al SFC (actually i wish the factory had made a lot of SFC mods to the SF! They could have had a whole new style of bike and a bigger market with the sports bike afficionado).

Tried out the pipe bender I bought from Repco and it worked a treat - not mandrel bending, but more than good enuff for a centrestand in mild steel.

Ain't got no welder so it's the friendly chap at Mr Muffle. Gonna take a few visits as i cut and shape the bracketry.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Andy on August 13, 2018, 09:22
I went for Broke.

I came back through Wollombi and Freeman's Waterhole.

(https://i.imgur.com/LaaEez0.jpg)

Fantastic looking bike, almost exactly like mine  ;)
Except for the mirrors, your's are different. How are you enjoying them?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on August 13, 2018, 10:31
Finally started on my custom centrestand for the SF so I can run both pipes underslung. Had already done one side for the factory 2/1, but need to have it double sided. Wish the factory had made the SF stand a al SFC (actually i wish the factory had made a lot of SFC mods to the SF! They could have had a whole new style of bike and a bigger market with the sports bike afficionado).

Tried out the pipe bender I bought from Repco and it worked a treat - not mandrel bending, but more than good enuff for a centrestand in mild steel.

Ain't got no welder so it's the friendly chap at Mr Muffle. Gonna take a few visits as i cut and shape the bracketry.

Will this be using the standard SF frane lugs, or at you having to cut and weld?

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on August 13, 2018, 12:46
I used something similar to this on my brother's 3C, and welded a nut on the inside of the frame.

The handles can be indexed to whatever position you like (well, in 60 deg increments anyway, so 6 positions). If positioned downward, they can double as hooks for tying luggage onto the seat.

I wouldn't use those. Could be very nasty in case of a fall transforming a benign slide into a surgical party.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on August 13, 2018, 19:09
Changed clutch plates (pattern) for originals,springs and changed slightly worn primary crank end bearing at Alans' this afternoon,, big thanks.!

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1792/42207853960_38975050b8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27iLhu1)

 (https://flic.kr/p/27iLhu1)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on August 13, 2018, 22:11
One peg up, the other down.... my OCD is in overdrive! Sweet bike Lemon.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on August 14, 2018, 00:07
Will this be using the standard SF frane lugs, or at you having to cut and weld?

Yogi
Can't possibly use the std lugs. I've seen factory 2/1s forced under the LH lug (even with the sidestand bracketry still in place!) and it ain't pretty. I already have the LH lug inboard, just need to do the same with the RH. I'm getting other work done on the frame (like reinforcing cracked upper rear engine mounts), so no big deal.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on August 14, 2018, 01:17
Ain't got no welder so it's the friendly chap at Mr Muffle. Gonna take a few visits as i cut and shape the bracketry.

You could buy a small single phase DC stick welder for what it would cost to get a couple of welds done by an engineering workshop.

Here ya go. $50 including postage from China!
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ARC-220Amp-Stick-Welder-DC-Inverter-MMA-Welding-Machine-IGBT-Portable-10A-Plug/142893892875?epid=2224873586&hash=item214523c50b%3Ag%3Ags8AAOSw2DFZr0Pj&_sacat=0&_nkw=single+phase+stick+welder&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ARC-220Amp-Stick-Welder-DC-Inverter-MMA-Welding-Machine-IGBT-Portable-10A-Plug/142893892875?epid=2224873586&hash=item214523c50b%3Ag%3Ags8AAOSw2DFZr0Pj&_sacat=0&_nkw=single+phase+stick+welder&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313)

If it only lasts long enough to weld up your centre stand it'll have paid for itself!   :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Chappo on August 14, 2018, 03:13
Fantastic looking bike, almost exactly like mine  ;)
Except for the mirrors, your's are different. How are you enjoying them?

Hi Andy, I like them, and I don't like them... They are better for looking back than the fairing mount mirrors, but I will be going back to the fairing mount. These are too wide for lane splitting in traffic.

The fairing mounted mirrors I took off were the rectangle ones, and one would not stay in position. I will not put these back on, but buy the Californian type. 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on August 14, 2018, 03:25
Contacted a business that offer EFI kits for parallel twins out of the USA.

Gave them all the 880SFCK's current cc, carb details: bore, stub sizes etc. and ignition details, it could be interesting to see what they come back with ;)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on August 14, 2018, 06:39
You can have the gear, but it doesn´t make you the tradesman!

"You could buy a small single phase DC stick welder for what it would cost to get a couple of welds done by an engineering workshop.

Here ya go. $50 including postage from China!"

You´d be best off doing a welding course and getting a shitload of scrap to practice on, too. As an analog myy flamenco teacher refused to take students with cheapo guitars, he told them it needed a mæstro to make shit like that to sound in any way good, and just be demotivating.
I bought one of the cheap gas/gasless migs (Italian) that were everywhere at that time in the ´90s. The basic unit is ok, except that it has switches you combine for amps instead of a potmeter, and the hose/handpiece was shit. I fitted a Kemppi hose/handpiece which transformed it, but don´t know electrons well enough to swap to a potmeter. The more I weld the better I get. The main problem is that when I use it on full guff, just as the arc starts it tends to trip the 16amp breaker to the workshop (into the house and reset it in the laundry elec panel), unless I start extremely gently. And then there is the eyesght that makes it really hard to see just where I am welding.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on August 14, 2018, 12:11
I stick welded the current ‘half-modded’ centre stand myself. Now that it’s off I can see where I’ve had a great time angle grinding the ridiculous excess weld I managed to add! It’s stood the test of time and was fortunately out of sight. Actually it’s not that bad. And I think a stick welder in the garage is overdue Cam. Don’t trust myself to do anything important neatly and reliably tho. When you see   what a pro can do it’s obvious what a skill it is. Did a two day welding course for my cert 3 in bicycle mech. Great fun but TIG on alu and stainless? No way in a fit!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: SimonR501 on August 14, 2018, 13:31
Welding! It's a lot harder than it looks!

In my experience buy the best kit you can possibly afford - Miller or Kemppi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on August 14, 2018, 14:31
Had a CIG stick welder for about 40 years. Bought it to build the trusses etc for a shed we lived in for a few years out in the sticks. Have used it on and off ever since for jobs that needed doing around the house and farm. Last effort was to make wine racks. Have even used it to weld up a cracked cast iron oven. My welds may not satisfy the cognoscenti but I have not yet had one fail. I have a MIG now as well. Have yet to venture into the world of TIG.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on August 15, 2018, 01:08
Welding! It's a lot harder than it looks!

Nah, it's dead easy to stick bits of steel together with a welder.

Doing a weld that looks nice is more of a challenge.  That's what angle grinders are for  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Chappo on August 15, 2018, 01:23
"A grinder and paint makes me the welder I ain't"
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverdalothar on August 15, 2018, 08:39
"A grinder and paint makes me the welder I ain't"

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on August 15, 2018, 09:20
I registered my pre oil cooler big headlamp 3C on the NOVA database yesterday. This is a UK database where you have to pay any VAT if the vehicle comes from outside the EU.
I was a bit surprised to find I owed nothing as the bike came from Serbia which isn't an EU member.
I can get the bike registered now but it needs a fair bit of work to get it ready for Breganze next year.
It's been dormant since 2011 but Grant rewired it and installed one of Reds very first uprated ignition and alternator upgrades.
The front brakes need attention, most of the head studs are in the wrong way up and all the chains need replacing. Might be easier to take the engine out to fix the studs but I have no facilities where I am.
Lets hope there aren't any major horror stories lurking inside the motor.
I might have to fit a hydraulic clutch conversion from Keith Nairn because my left wrist is damaged and riding through traffic with a heavy clutch will be murder.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 15, 2018, 09:25
Isn't there a 25 year limit on tax due?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on August 15, 2018, 10:07
quote from Cam
"Doing a weld that looks nice is more of a challenge.  That's what angle grinders are for"

makes my ears ring, in the 60's, I was told over and over again that appearance is only 5% of the marks, penetration is 40%, so why the fuck are you polishing that shit off the top!

CLEM
but I know what you mean Cam.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 15, 2018, 10:26
What was the other 55% for?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on August 15, 2018, 10:48
What was the other 55% for?

If appearance and penetration are 45 percent, pleasure must be 55%  :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on August 15, 2018, 11:05
Isn't there a 25 year limit on tax due?

Dunno Grant, I just expected more hassle, mind you I had to supply national insurance numbers and passport details halfway through the process which I didn't expect. This is on top of the user ID and password and access code which they send to your phone.
Anyway it didn't cost anything and was pretty immediate so I'm pleased.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on August 15, 2018, 13:03
I registered my pre oil cooler big headlamp 3C on the NOVA database yesterday. This is a UK database where you have to pay any VAT if the vehicle comes from outside the EU.
I was a bit surprised to find I owed nothing as the bike came from Serbia which isn't an EU member.
I can get the bike registered now but it needs a fair bit of work to get it ready for Breganze next year.
It's been dormant since 2011 but Grant rewired it and installed one of Reds very first uprated ignition and alternator upgrades.
The front brakes need attention, most of the head studs are in the wrong way up and all the chains need replacing. Might be easier to take the engine out to fix the studs but I have no facilities where I am.
Lets hope there aren't any major horror stories lurking inside the motor.
I might have to fit a hydraulic clutch conversion from Keith Nairn because my left wrist is damaged and riding through traffic with a heavy clutch will be murder.
We will toss the coin to elect the tow bike, towing charges are a stubby per kilometer or a pint per mile!!!!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on August 15, 2018, 16:23
Don't forget I built your engine too Maurice, either of them could be booby trapped ha ha!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 15, 2018, 20:27
My caveat would be to make sure these bikes (never run for millennia) are up to the grand tour ahead of schedule rather that relying on blind faith.

From what I saw of 2 of these beasts they need more than blind faith and optimism.

Harsh but true.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on August 15, 2018, 23:47
In progress as we speak Grant as we say in Australia she'l be right mate!!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on August 16, 2018, 08:19
My caveat would be to make sure these bikes (never run for millenia) are up to the grand tour ahead of schedule rather that relying on blind faith.

From what I saw of 2 of these beasts they need more than blind faith and optimism.

Harsh but true.

I haven't got blind faith in my 3C Grant, I ran one of these on a shoestring for 17 years and I'm pretty much familiar with every facet the bike except the changed ignition system. These bikes are tough as old boots. It's only 1000 miles or so to Breganze anyway, I could do it on a moped if I had to.
As for Maurices bike, it has a very good motor and an extremely knowledgeable owner.
Cosmetically, I'm not bothered as long as my bike is tidy.
You never know though, they could both throw a rod just for fun but I would think that applies to most of the bikes heading there.
As you installed all the electrics on my bike I have discounted the likelihood of any problems from that quarter. Is that the blind faith you were talking about?   ;D

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on August 16, 2018, 11:22
Just been thinking about what sort of problems I encountered doing long trips on my 3C years ago. It was a high mileage well used bike, so not shiny and new.
From memory on different trips I had the rear wheel cush drive bearings go in Italy, fixed them on a campsite near Venice, had cables snap but always carried spares, punctures (god how I hated them), starter motor packed in in France, starter solenoid packed in on another trip, the wiring under the rear mudguard got trashed when I hit a huge pothole in the rain coming out of Le Havre and shorted everything out, the rectifier went on another trip and constantly flattened the battery.
I cant remember any other failures, so mostly we are talking electrical.
The CDI ignition on the early bikes meant that you didn't need a charged up battery to make them function, a bump start would get them running. I might miss that primitive feature.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on August 16, 2018, 12:11
Mine was no issues with the Sprint, just a packed up new Odyssey Battery
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on August 16, 2018, 12:53
"just a packed up new Odyssey Battery"

surprisingly a statement that you hear a lot, which is why I have never bought one,

I can feel Dicknav7 and jock McReg typing as I close.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 16, 2018, 13:02
Pat, I do this type of work daily and looking at your 3C and knowing it has not run in how many years I would be hesitant to take it on a 2000 mile round trip with just the optimism you display based on how your previous 3C ran.
I would be going through it with a fine tooth comb, replacing (for example) all wheel bearings, brake seal and pads on the front end, checking carbs etc.
When I saw it your bike looked like it needed some loving.

1000 miles each way is still many hours at highway speeds, no doubt hot weather and the bike will have a shock to it's system after years of inactivity.

I'm not having a go, just urging you to do the necessary before such a big trip.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on August 16, 2018, 15:16
Clem..here I am! The Od will pack up if you dont have an updraded charging system.Mine did that.but after the Red/Sachse upgrade it has been faultless..amazing in fact. I know you like your half ton tractor batteries, but if you ever get on and fit a decent ignition to TOG, then she will appreciate the Od benefits😁So splash the cash?😍
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on August 16, 2018, 16:16
Nick,

 Mine had a new Witt DMC2 on it, I know they are not compatible with single phase alternators btw.But the Sprint is 3 phase, Odysseys"s are over priced ,and I"m sorry to all,but no better than decent power rated ride on mower battery,which is what i found in France to get to Breganze and back and ever since.Numax  are good too.I don t ride at night really for an upgrade,

If you want a Harrods bag and shiny stuff that"s fine Sheik Ya Moni by all means. ;D ;D ;D

Oh dear ChrisK, it"s now a battery thread.  . :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on August 16, 2018, 16:42
Pat, I do this type of work daily and looking at your 3C and knowing it has not run in how many years I would be hesitant to take it on a 2000 mile round trip with just the optimism you display based on how your previous 3C ran.
I would be going through it with a fine tooth comb, replacing (for example) all wheel bearings, brake seal and pads on the front end, checking carbs etc.
When I saw it your bike looked like it needed some loving.

1000 miles each way is still many hours at highway speeds, no doubt hot weather and the bike will have a shock to it's system after years of inactivity.

I'm not having a go, just urging you to do the necessary before such a big trip.

You don't think I'm not going to check these things do you Grant?
I'm not replacing anything for the sake of it though.
I'm going to rebuild the brakes, it's already had steering head bearings and fork seals, you renewed the electrics, it'll get new chains all round and new tyres.
I'll get the carbs cleaned out and sorted.
Although it was running when I bought it, the engine is mostly an unknown quantity and will have to be investigated but a total money no object rebuild isn't going to happen. It doesn't need to win any races, just get me there and back.
I actually have a nice big box full of brand new parts, bearings, brake rebuild kits, carb rebuild kits, cables and even a very nice cylinder head if needs be but apart from consumables I'm not inclined to replace anything unless absolutely necessary.
If it breaks I'll fix it or hire a van, it'll give me somewhere cheap to sleep too. If the motor is shagged I'll use a different bike.
I don't know if it's just me but the amount of money thrown at these bikes these days seems wildly excessive especially when they hardly get any use. I have a feeling my attitude will be frowned upon by the great and good on here though ha ha!
It will be interesting to see if anything goes tits up. I would bet if it anything unfixable fails it will be the new ignition, sods law in action.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 16, 2018, 16:53
A full rebuild is a full rebuild.
The end result is a perfectly useable bike as or better than new.
This isn't everyone's aim or dream and I understand that.
Of course I hope your approach yields results and ges you there and back without drama.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on August 16, 2018, 20:23
Hey Pat,

 Alan seems keen on that route too on the way , if you can clear it with the others, have your own mechanic en route then  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: alan james on August 16, 2018, 20:40
 Went to Breganze on my scuzzy old yellow 1975 3C clunker in 2014. A familiar bike in ILOC circles, no preparation just rode it, 2500 miles there and back it never missed a beat.  It is a smoker so liked a drop of oil so had to keep an eye on that, the discs warped so that made braking interesting, but I had absolute faith it wouldn't break down.

  3C's are great bikes, mine still has the original Bosch C.D.I ignition and charging system simplicity in itself. Keep the revs around 4000 and the battery is always fully charged. On a long trip dead easy. Tractor mower lead acid 32 amp hr battery fitted dead reliable and last for years.  Hopefully going again next year. On the 3C of course.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on August 16, 2018, 21:40

1000 miles each way is still many hours at highway speeds

That cause for concern ........ everyone else will be in front of him, breakdown and we’ll have to stop for beers and a feed, and wait for him to catch up  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on August 16, 2018, 23:53
3C's are great bikes, mine still has the original Bosch C.D.I ignition and charging system simplicity in itself.

Yes, they seem to last pretty well when ridden with a bit of mechanical sympathy. My brother's 3C still has the original pistons, rings, etc. The most that's been done to the engine in over 100,000 km is the head has been off for a lap of the valves/seats with grinding paste to clean them up after a long lay-up. It still has the original primary chain which shows very little sign of wear or stretch. It only got a new ignition system because the original Bosch HKZ died.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on August 17, 2018, 01:03
Yes, they seem to last pretty well when ridden with a bit of mechanical sympathy. My brother's 3C still has the original pistons, rings, etc. ... in over 100,000 km ... It still has the original primary chain which shows very little sign of wear or stretch.

Holy shys Cam, did he do those k's with it sitting on rollers??!!  :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Andy on August 18, 2018, 09:40
Replace primary chains and timing chain. Did a light sandblast and paint of the tatty looking chrome headers (found a black high-temp paint that looks flat, instead of the chalky matt I used to use in the olden-days...) looks a lot better, we'll see how long it lasts!
Oh, and new plugs. Glad I had a set on the shelf, the poor old girl wouldn't start again after doing some idling for me in the shed  ;D (I think I might carry a set from now on, it went from running ok to zero, overnight!)

Running like a top now, and ready for the next Cold Kiwi challenge  :P
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: stevepm2011 on August 18, 2018, 20:24
Fixed the 1200 Series 1 indicators. They stopped flashing on the way to the rally in Heftrich, Germany. (The rally was excellent, btw  ;)
It turned out to be the standard missing earth wire from the LH switchgear. Why Laverda ever thought that an earth path through well-greased steering head bearings would work remains beyond me...
I do like this bike, it goes like stink, and somehow has a lot of Laverda soul in it ;D

Steve
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: bevelman on August 19, 2018, 06:29
packed it in the van-picking up the mule tomorrow
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on August 19, 2018, 07:29
"It turned out to be the standard missing earth wire from the LH switchgear."
What has earthing got to do with your indicator switch? It is a wire in to the switch from the relay and diverted to either side globes.
Is it the headlight brackets etc that you are earthing via an earth wire in the LH switch? The earth wire in LH switches is generally for a horn earth.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on August 19, 2018, 23:17
Finally got a Shorai dedicated battery charger for the small lightweight Shorai battery. Very well made, and can balance each cell individually.

Kind regards,
jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: andre g on August 25, 2018, 22:12
Had a good day with my RGS, visited my Mam and went 200 Km 2 times in five hrs together with my wife Eva, passinng the little mountains of the Sauerland, it was like surfing on the roads.Love the RGS.Eva too, she so confortable- the RGS!
Andre
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on August 26, 2018, 09:27
Finally installed NGK B9ES rather than NGK B8ES. Will testdrive in ½ hour ;)
Always had a bit soothy plugs so we'll see if that changes.

Kind regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on August 26, 2018, 10:10
Is there a reason why you (and many others) use ES rather than BP..ES plugs?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Andy on August 26, 2018, 10:20
Fitted new Nitron shocks from DAM racing. Adjusted height to 370mm as many on here seem to prefer. Had a decent test run today and they feel really good, might need a bit more fine adjustment but good for now. I like the extra height, I was surprised that such a small change could make such a noticable difference to the steering, especially when flicking from one side to another. Can't do without a block under the centre stand now though, but the side stand feels a lot more secure!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on August 26, 2018, 10:30
I found this years ago after getting Andy Wagners catalog,it recommended BP plugs. The P stands for Projected tip,I fitted them and found no difference.It's not good to have any plug sticking out into the chamber so I dont think its that much of a projection. I went back to the ES plugs.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on August 26, 2018, 10:56
Finally installed NGK B9ES rather than NGK B8ES. Will testdrive in ½ hour ;)
Always had a bit soothy plugs so we'll see if that changes.

Kind regards,
Jacques

9's are a colder plug, so won't cure your sooty 8's  ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on August 26, 2018, 11:00
Finally installed NGK B9ES rather than NGK B8ES. Will testdrive in ½ hour ;)
Always had a bit soothy plugs so we'll see if that changes.

Kind regards,
Jacques

9s being colder, you'll probably have even sootier plugs.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: alan james on August 26, 2018, 11:30

 You need NGK B7ES plugs it will burn cleaner.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on August 26, 2018, 11:50
You need NGK B7ES plugs it will burn cleaner.

Sure will straight thru the pistona top  ???
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on August 26, 2018, 11:51
I use BP7ESs.. burn cleaner and smoother too😎😎
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 26, 2018, 13:16
For triples the standard plug for low comp piston engines is B8ES.

High comp engines use B9ES.

A protruding tip may cause issues by glowing hot and causing pre-ignition.

I had an SFC 1000 come in with BP8ES as the owner said they were recommended by a reliable source.
I changed them to B9ES during the service.
I don't want to run the risk to go against factory specification.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: dja982 on August 26, 2018, 14:07
For triples the standard plug for low comp piston engines is B8ES.

High comp engines use B9ES.

A protruding tip may cause issues by glowing hot and causing pre-ignition.

I had an SFC 1000 come in with BP8ES as the owner said they were recommended by a reliable source.
I changed them to B9ES during the service.
I don't want to run the risk to go against factory specification

Looking forward to seeing Pop put back to standard. :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 26, 2018, 14:32
There is a heat range and type for each engine configuration, after extensive work done by the manufacturer.
The engine in my bike is Corsa specification (compression ratio, valve and port sizes).

It also runs offset smaller diameter plugs as the head was repaired to solve cracks from plug holes across valve seats. The plug hole size was reduced and offset to minimise the chance of it happening again, but the spec is still as per B9ES.

The rest of the bike is irrelevant to this discussion, which is spark plug spec.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: dja982 on August 26, 2018, 15:08
Got it only factory spec when it suits you. :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on August 26, 2018, 15:28
Won't find an NGK plug stated anywhere in factory literature... ::)

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on August 26, 2018, 15:36
Not plug related but.....

Just finished work on a new seat for the Jota, originally supplied by a very nice chap on here and from way down under so very appreciative to him (bigthumb).

I wanted to give it a makeover before I fitted it as i can't leave anything alone :D and to bring it up to scratch, did take a bit of doing but that's part of the challenge and enjoyment of it all,and i'm happy with the results.
New cover from Tony at Eldorado.

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010183_zpsxlc5rttu.jpg&hash=39e32fccd4d49aad408d1599d0b91f69) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010183_zpsxlc5rttu.jpg.html)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010187_zpsstxoczt9.jpg&hash=4684143e085a95d75cbcd7f26f298f3a) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010187_zpsstxoczt9.jpg.html)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010189_zps35o8tbj2.jpg&hash=2ec890243c8565bd6ac6bf221a75b7bd) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010189_zps35o8tbj2.jpg.html)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010191_zpshow3giza.jpg&hash=9d88f5ac6403b2ae133fb22591be7ca0) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010191_zpshow3giza.jpg.html)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010200_zpsadn9wjli.jpg&hash=4ad983d8dae8693288bb755891cd1efc) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010200_zpsadn9wjli.jpg.html)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010202_zpsyiccxrag.jpg&hash=f826b81d12a231e107fe200e29d20c4d) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010202_zpsyiccxrag.jpg.html)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010204_zpsuc9zavyr.jpg&hash=e45d9373c52e3bdd20ddc140d38f5079) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010204_zpsuc9zavyr.jpg.html)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010205_zpst6wvcwrd.jpg&hash=4a5cd4311938d15b255b1c07bb875104) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010205_zpst6wvcwrd.jpg.html)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010208_zpsdclbd0pt.jpg&hash=ff6b098e11facc0f9149c06739aefb90) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010208_zpsdclbd0pt.jpg.html)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010218_zpsfqoxynrt.jpg&hash=b13941fc46fb4b799d8a6c713e90a837) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010218_zpsfqoxynrt.jpg.html)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010219_zpsndcfmnpd.jpg&hash=1d1146ea6263bc7576ac41b5454b8b84) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010219_zpsndcfmnpd.jpg.html)

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010221_zpsxmwwgzne.jpg&hash=ee9a17228b4af079ef40611bd5af6a9b) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010221_zpsxmwwgzne.jpg.html)

Just need to test it out now (bikebend) (bigthumb)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 26, 2018, 16:13
Won't find an NGK plug stated anywhere in factory literature... ::)

piet

NGK equivalents to the crappy alternatives.  :-*
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on August 26, 2018, 22:40
Went for 300 km ride through Tanunda, Nuriootpa, Koonunga, Kapunda and Eudunda ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on August 26, 2018, 22:52
Well, apart from being soothy (always), I just inserted these B9ES as they were told on here to be the correct plug heat grade for an SFC1000. I have used B8ES in my former RGS as well as my SFC1000 for decades with no melted pistons etc. so far.
But, better take the advice from the experts. So I bought a box of 10 B9ES and am now trying them out.
Apart from that, brass is new, gaskets, slides, jets, needles, floats are straight and set at 18mm, float forks are not too open, idle mix screws are new and set to 1,5 turn as recommended, though I just set them to 1 1/4 turn to try and lower soothyness, needle clip are at the middle notch, 60/2 slides, 265 atomiser, 118 main jet, 65 idle jet, acceleration pumps are installed and functioning well, all syncronised with my carbtune following procedures.
Standard paper air filter always clean fresh one, 2 * 40mm holes in bottom of airbox from factory, 40mm downpipes and 2 Jota end Cans.
Motowitt Mk 1 ignition, and I don't remember which curve right now, but it's standard.
Battery always charged fully and plenty of cranking amps. Schnabel voltage regulator as Nippo Denso burnt off like they always do.
cams are pretty spot on, so are valve clearance, primary chains and cam chain adjustment. Ignition pickups are original and adjusted to be pretty spot on.
Valve springs are Motodd 1/4 round less, same length. Bikes done 43000 km i total. Always fresh oil every 1500 kms and at least every year. No oil consumption ever. No smoke from anywhere.
Inlet tracts are swapped to 36mm aluminium ones and rubber connectors to carbs. Fits perfectly.
Carb top screw tight etc.
Choke plungers lubed at assembly and have a bit slack so they sit tight at the bottom position. Only ever use the chke function as a start aid device, around ½ way and after 5-6 seconds off, just keeping gas a bit open while Warming up a Little bit.
Bike starts easy hot and Cold, and accelerates really well, strong pull from 1500 rpm to 8400. Smooth and calm stable idleing as well.
To prevent valve clearance distortion, I have always used Castrol Valmemaster + (ocatane version) plus used Shell Vpower 99. Tried anoter brand once for one tankfull, but same result.
Still soothy plugs.
Ggrrrrrr  ;(

Could it be a good idea to go smaller in idle jet size, say 62,5?

Lower needle (K1) to lowest position?

Can deceleration letting go of the gas roll make sothy plugs?

Any suggestions?

Kind regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on August 27, 2018, 00:01
A protruding tip may cause issues by glowing hot and causing pre-ignition.

I’ve yet to read of any such issues: maybe in another 45 years...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on August 27, 2018, 00:58
Well, apart from being soothy (always), I just inserted these B9ES as they were told on here to be the correct plug heat grade for an SFC1000. I have used B8ES in my former RGS as well as my SFC1000 for decades with no melted pistons etc. so far.
But, better take the advice from the experts. So I bought a box of 10 B9ES and am now trying them out.
Apart from that, brass is new, gaskets, slides, jets, needles, floats are straight and set at 18mm, float forks are not too open, idle mix screws are new and set to 1,5 turn as recommended, though I just set them to 1 1/4 turn to try and lower soothyness, needle clip are at the middle notch, 60/2 slides, 265 atomiser, 118 main jet, 65 idle jet, acceleration pumps are installed and functioning well, all syncronised with my carbtune following procedures.
Standard paper air filter always clean fresh one, 2 * 40mm holes in bottom of airbox from factory, 40mm downpipes and 2 Jota end Cans.
Motowitt Mk 1 ignition, and I don't remember which curve right now, but it's standard.
Battery always charged fully and plenty of cranking amps. Schnabel voltage regulator as Nippo Denso burnt off like they always do.
cams are pretty spot on, so are valve clearance, primary chains and cam chain adjustment. Ignition pickups are original and adjusted to be pretty spot on.
Valve springs are Motodd 1/4 round less, same length. Bikes done 43000 km i total. Always fresh oil every 1500 kms and at least every year. No oil consumption ever. No smoke from anywhere.
Inlet tracts are swapped to 36mm aluminium ones and rubber connectors to carbs. Fits perfectly.
Carb top screw tight etc.
Choke plungers lubed at assembly and have a bit slack so they sit tight at the bottom position. Only ever use the chke function as a start aid device, around ½ way and after 5-6 seconds off, just keeping gas a bit open while Warming up a Little bit.
Bike starts easy hot and Cold, and accelerates really well, strong pull from 1500 rpm to 8400. Smooth and calm stable idleing as well.
To prevent valve clearance distortion, I have always used Castrol Valmemaster + (ocatane version) plus used Shell Vpower 99. Tried anoter brand once for one tankfull, but same result.
Still soothy plugs.
Ggrrrrrr  ;(

Could it be a good idea to go smaller in idle jet size, say 62,5?

Lower needle (K1) to lowest position?

Can deceleration letting go of the gas roll make sothy plugs?

Any suggestions?



Kind regards,
Jacques

Are you doing plug chop after wot run or after popping up the corner shop ??
No harm in trying smaller pilot.
9's definitely won't clear up plugs as they are colder than 8's!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on August 27, 2018, 03:20
A protruding tip may cause issues by glowing hot and causing pre-ignition.

Logic would indicate that if one NGK plug runs hotter than another it will have a different heat range number,  So I'd assume that BP8ES shouldn't get any hotter than B8ES.

It's not good to have any plug sticking out into the chamber ...

I believe the reason for projecting plugs is to get the spark closer to the centre of the combustion chamber. Initiating the mixture burn as close as possible to the centre of the chamber is a good thing. So it's probably a sensible choice of plug for engines with low piston crowns. But if the piston crown is high enough to contact the plug's earth electrode, then the projection isn't a good idea. I've never measured piston/plug clearance in my Jota engine (with Hi-comp pistons) so I've not tried "P" type plugs. There's probably heaps of room in there though, so maybe I should give them a try.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on August 27, 2018, 08:22
Hooksey: I don't understand what you are saying. I am no natively English, so I don't get the meaning of the corner shop expression.

Anyway, I am thinking this:

* could Castrol Valvemaster+ add to the soothing?
*  maybe going to 62,5 sized pilot jets.
* can some type of spark plug caps make a weaker spark and inhibit propper burning of fuel mixture?

I have now filled up the tank with fresh Vpower 99 octane and will not add anything else for the tank full.
Waiting on sunshine. It's pouring Down outside right now, and Work is in the way ;)
My plan is now to inspect pickups positioning and advance if possible,  take a good run, get back home, and then take a look at the plugs.
Next is new spark plug caps.
Next is smaller pilot jets.
Next is another brand of fuel (OK just released 100 octane).
Next is a tank of 95.
Next is Castrol Valvemaster without the "+".

No, I don't test it with WOT and then a sudden off, then look at plugs, as I need it to run through town, idleing etc. without soothing in that condition too. Maybe I should do it, just to see if the standard #118 is too big? But strange it is. Carbs does not seem worn at all inside where the slide moves.

Kind regards,
Jacques


Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on August 27, 2018, 09:46
Jaq, pointless trying to read a plug and make adjustments to suit said plug unless done at wot ! Take a plug spanner out on the open Rd with you  ;) and work your way back from the main jet.
Too Mutch tootling around town on the pilot jet and no good for your highly strung Sfc think you need a 750 gt  8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on August 27, 2018, 10:11
Oh, and it should be one of those ex-police arabian models...  ;)

All right, I'll give it some beans on the highway and break ignition, cool down and have a look.

Kind regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 27, 2018, 10:43
It's much harder to read plugs with unleaded fuel, always burns with more soot.
Sooty plugs are maybe made worse using 98 unleaded plus Valvemaster additive. Not sure as I have never run it.

You have the SFC 1000, same engine as the Corsa, and the 65 pilots with 118 mains is the standard setting.

Personally I would not be guided by plug colour or sootiness these days, rather I would either set it up best I can by vacuum gauges, strobe etc or take it for a dyno run.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on August 27, 2018, 12:17
Quite, forget plug readings with unleaded.
Use seat of pants.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on August 27, 2018, 12:45
To bad if you soil ya jocks......
Or is that an indication that the bikes running well  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on August 27, 2018, 13:20
Quite, forget plug readings with unleaded.
Use seat of pants.

Paul

How often do you need to wash the pants to get the spark plug soot out?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Is2 on August 27, 2018, 21:38
Sooty plugs are maybe made worse using 98 unleaded plus Valvemaster additive. Not sure as I have never run it.


I use BP or Caltex 98 with a valve saver every 2nd or 3rd tank and NGK B7ES 32 thou gap in my S2 Jota. The plugs look good with a nice clean burn after a decent/long ride. eg not sooty.
Only time they get sooty is when I run it in the shed after its been sitting around for 4 or 5 weeks. = cold fouling?

The plugs are what was in the bike when I bought it from a reputable shop in Adelaide who had done the service before sale.
Don't no maybe its different here in Sth Oz, our tallest mountain is a little over 2,000 ft above sea level.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on August 27, 2018, 21:43
How often do you need to wash the pants to get the spark plug soot out?

After a few red wines the night before, one could be confused, because you may think the bike is running way too rich when using the seat of your pants theory.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on August 28, 2018, 00:27
Thanks to IS2 for an answer.
Kind regards,
jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 28, 2018, 00:44
Maybe B7s run hot enough to burn off the soot build up.
What compression ratio does your bike run?
Engine spec changes were common from the factory depending where they sold it originally (cams, compression, carb jets/needles and exhausts).
Running high comps at high revs for extended periods on B7s is asking a lot.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: wdietz186 on August 28, 2018, 02:54
Jacques, You do need to check the plugs after it has been run under load. Idling/low speed riding will soot up the plugs largely because of the longer overlap of the Corsa cams diluting the mixture at low rpms. Sooty plugs aren't a problem unless a misfire develops. Depending on how hard the bike is ridden, a heat range warmer might solve your sooting issues. A range warmer will be unlikely to cause any issues unless you spend long periods of time at high revs/load or ride heavily loaded in blistering heat.
Firstly though,run it without the additive and see if that doesn't clean things up.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on August 28, 2018, 03:20
I also use 91 RoN in preference to 98. I found this was the single biggest factor in curing my sooted plugs problem, however, to be fair the Mirage runs at 8:1 compression.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on August 28, 2018, 03:37
well just getting my new 3c sorted, it had B9's in it when i picked the bike up it would not start, since i got it I put B8's in,I've taken the pod filters off ,put stock airbox on, took off the very restrictive stock collector, put a Jota collector and Jota mufflers on, jetting is 122 main 60 pilot K1 needle in the middle position, runs really good, but have to put some seat time on it to verify
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on August 28, 2018, 07:28
That 60 sized pilot jet is also prettysmall. Mine are 65 standard, and I have a set of 62,5 ready.
Hope for less rain and more sun today after Work, so I can try it out.

Kind regards,
jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 28, 2018, 08:06
180 1000s run a smaller pilot jet compared to 120s.
55 is standard, sometimes a 60 works better.
Standard on 1200s is a 65.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on August 28, 2018, 16:37
180 1000s run a smaller pilot jet compared to 120s.
55 is standard, sometimes a 60 works better.
Standard on 1200s is a 65.
Exactly Grant , the air around here is been very poor lately, high humidity, high temps, have not a lot of time on this bike yet , the jetting seems good for now.I have to get new tires as it still has tires that were put on in Breganze , they are still like new but won't trust them for any spirited riding.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on August 29, 2018, 19:10
Hmm.. Getting dark early after Work, so not so keen on speeding on the freeway and then turn off engine, and taking seat, tank etc. off on a dark motorway, with blind old people passing by, or a couple of speeding youngsters with a far too big turbo on their Corolla 1300.
So, having just taken a look at Things, it hit me: oh, I did change the spark plug caps a few years ago, to some with metal caps. Having no FLuke at the mo, because it's in my friends garage, measuring wires on his 1200TS, I jsut swapped them out for a fresh set if NGK SD5F 4,77 KOhm plug caps.
I did take the spark plugs out before, just to see how the sparks look. They are quite small and yellow.... ;(
So, after the spark plug caps freshly installed, I repeated that, and sparks are now bigger and brighter, not yellow. ;)
That is at least some progress.
They are not blue though.
So, I ordered a fresh set of ignition coils.
Will hopefully have a chance to testdrive tomorrow.

Kind regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: markQLD on August 30, 2018, 11:47
Today, I test rode the 'Best in Show' SF1 for Redax Laverda.
Perfect weather, no traffic and was a pleasure to clock up 100 miles on this magnificent Laverda motor-bicycle.
There is going to be one happy customer.  (thumbup)
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10581%2FIMG_4765_01.JPG&hash=12e699f677c7b42538200a42b8732195)

Thirsty work, but somebody has to do it eh,
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10581%2FIMG_4767_01.JPG&hash=fd922d9a625136bb3b2dea5c15ae6f62)
Yep, living the dream  8)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on August 30, 2018, 11:53
Great looking bike.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on August 30, 2018, 11:58
Outstanding.. :) :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on August 30, 2018, 12:30
Today, I test rode the 'Best in Show' SF1 for Redax Laverda.
Perfect weather, no traffic and was a pleasure to clock up 100 miles on this magnificent Laverda motor-bicycle.
There is going to be one happy customer.
(thumbup) He's already happy dont worry about the going to be bit
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10581%2FIMG_4765_01.JPG&hash=12e699f677c7b42538200a42b8732195)

Thirsty work, but somebody has to do it eh,
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10581%2FIMG_4767_01.JPG&hash=fd922d9a625136bb3b2dea5c15ae6f62)
Yep, living the dream  8)

Good on ya Mark enjoy the trophy winner oh and try not to get it dirty will ya  :o :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on August 30, 2018, 13:14
You "Lucky bugger" Mr Muir, shes a looker alright  8) but also very purposeful great stance those 750's and made to get down n dirty  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on August 30, 2018, 17:27
Wow lovely bike..nicer than one ofvthem 750 GTDucati things even...a lot less too.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on August 30, 2018, 20:50
Today, I test rode the 'Best in Show' SF1 for Redax Laverda.
Thirsty work, but somebody has to do it eh,

and while the Test Rider was swanning around the countryside on the 750 I was hard at work twisting and lightening 750 crankshafts

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1899/42562583370_7a03502ef0_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27R7nbj)750 twisted cranks (https://flic.kr/p/27R7nbj)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on August 30, 2018, 22:50
Checked all the exhaust bolts tightness , rear sprocket bolts and general stuff  , give her a bit of a polish for Baskers   8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on August 30, 2018, 23:48
and while the Test Rider was swanning around the countryside on the 750 I was hard at work twisting and lightening 750 crankshafts


 ??? I didn't see any mention of you polishing my trophy.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on August 31, 2018, 00:20
Today, I test rode the 'Best in Show' SF1 for Redax Laverda.

Mr Muir, I think it needs another run, just to be sure.
Interested in a run with another trophy winning twin on Sunday?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on August 31, 2018, 07:26
and while the Test Rider was swanning around the countryside on the 750 I was hard at work twisting and lightening 750 crankshafts

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1899/42562583370_7a03502ef0_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27R7nbj)750 twisted cranks (https://flic.kr/p/27R7nbj)

Sexual chocolate Red......that means they look very special indeed :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: markQLD on August 31, 2018, 11:35
Mr Muir, I think it needs another run, just to be sure.
Interested in a run with another trophy winning twin on Sunday?
ay Chris, I just checked the scope of work in my Redax Laverda contract and 'swanning around the countryside' on trophy winning twins does not appear to be listed.   ???
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on August 31, 2018, 11:56
So Mr Muir, how bout a ride comparison with a Redax 270 built twin and your stock
7fiddee........... 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: 2volts on August 31, 2018, 13:00
Today, I test rode the 'Best in Show' SF1 for Redax Laverda.
Perfect weather, no traffic and was a pleasure to clock up 100 miles on this magnificent Laverda motor-bicycle.
There is going to be one happy customer.  (thumbup)

Thirsty work, but somebody has to do it eh,

Yep, living the dream  8)

Good on you Mark.
Were you carrying spare side covers?

pete
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Ventodue on August 31, 2018, 13:50
Headed for the Hills ...

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimghst.co%2F95%2F9Iz9FVpUU6.jpg&hash=0c29175dd20b0efc5ba526362ea806ea)

And came back quick   :D...

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimghst.co%2F70%2FgTU9GdAzbI.jpg&hash=96d11dce6341b05b0c22c42459e79038)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on September 01, 2018, 07:32
I have a gear pad on the top of my right boot that's been catching on the not so round end of my alloy knurled rear set gear lever. The boot is Gortex and has a fair bit of Neatsfoot Oil soaked in, I don't want or even cannot get this stitch repaired, compromised the waterproofing so I am attempting to glue this flap down with Araldite. Not too hopeful. We will see. I put the gear tip in a portable drill and rounded it off more with a file. Hope this works, it's annoying when this snags and slows a gear change. Good boots are so expensive these days.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on September 01, 2018, 07:34
ay Chris, I just checked the scope of work in my Redax Laverda contract and 'swanning around the countryside' on trophy winning twins does not appear to be listed.   ???

I think it's covered in the "test riding" clause.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on September 01, 2018, 07:53
I don't want or even cannot get this stitch repaired, compromised the waterproofing so I am attempting to glue this flap down with Araldite. Not too hopeful. We will see.

Being a stingy bastard, I tend to keep boots well past their use-by date, which means repairing them when they start falling apart. Some jobs like macihine stitching I farm out to shoe repair shops, but I do my own cobbling work whenever I can. I've learned a few things that work, and some that don't.

Something that doesn't work well on boots is Araldite. It might be OK for wooden clogs, but not leather. It sets too hard and will eventually delaminate as the boot leather flexes.

I'd suggest a more flexible glue, a contact adhesive like Selleys Kwik Grip or something similar.  You can buy glue specifically for shoe repairs (like "Shoe Glue" or "Boot Fix Glue") but they seem to be stupidly expensive for a tiny little tube and are probably no better than a general purpose contact adhesive.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on September 01, 2018, 08:01
I had the Araldite, so we will see. The major issue is the Neetsford Oil, my bet is nothing will stick no matter what I use.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on September 01, 2018, 08:17
I had the Araldite, so we will see. The major issue is the Neetsford Oil, my bet is nothing will stick no matter what I use.

Dog shit will work  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on September 01, 2018, 08:39
Best law ever, fining dog owners who don't clean up after there dog. I worked in Glebe once and counted the dog shit from the job to the lunch place. It was everywhere in that suburb before the law came in.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on September 01, 2018, 08:57
I had the Araldite, so we will see. The major issue is the Neetsford Oil, my bet is nothing will stick no matter what I use.

The neatsfoot oil could be part of your problem. I gave up using it on boots way back in my bushwalking days when I found it was doing more harm than good to my walking boots.

The reason I discovered it was no good was that I did a lot of bushwalking with a mate who bought the same cheap shitty boots as me (we couldn't afford fancy new-fangled bushwalking boots when we were poor students). We called them Banana Boots because they were made in Queensland. Anyway, his were lasting twice as long as mine. When I asked him what leather treatment he was using he said "nothing". He'd just rinse the mud off his boots and leave them to dry. I'd do the same, but then give them a good soaking with neatsfoot oil. It was that bloody neatsfoot crap that was making my boots fall apart.

I found out years later that neatsfoot oil is an oxidising agent that softens leather by breaking down the natural fibres that give leather its strength. It can also damage some stitching (especially synthetic fibres) and dissolve some glues.  Buggered if I know why it's still so popular in the saddle and horse tack industry.

When I started using Dubbin or Sno Seal. My boots lasted heaps longer

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on September 01, 2018, 09:24
Learn something new every day
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: motoddrob on September 01, 2018, 09:29
Have also heard that Dubbin isn't the best for leather treatment as it will rot the stitching. I believe it's petro chemical base.
I use a bees wax product called renapur, makes my leathers really soft. Gave a tub to my sister for the worn leather upholstery in her Volvo years ago and it made ther seats look like new again.
I wouldn't use epoxy on leather Vince, as Cam said, a contact would be a better solution.
If the lever is wearing out your boots, change them for the flatish plastic ones supplied on the later jotas. They were fitted to my 1200 rearsets when I brought it and they haven't even left marks on my boots in 170000 kays.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: motoddrob on September 01, 2018, 09:41
Ebay Vince, $30 free post. 200 ml will last you for the rest of your life. Been using it since the beginning of the century, gave half a tub to my sister and I still have more than half of the replacement tub. Do all my leathers and boots. About to do all my leather couches with it. Swear by it!!. Brought the first tub at a Sydney bike show, they were treating boots for free, was so impressed I brought a tub.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: a14rgs on September 01, 2018, 13:13
^^ same here.
Bought a tub of Renapur at least 20 years ago - used it just this morning on my Altberg boots (which I bought 15 years ago!) - great stuff - does what it says on the tin (tub) ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on September 01, 2018, 15:31
for water proofing leather I use Duckswax, it enhances the look of the leather as well as polishing/waterproofing/softening it, not one single drop of water gets through my riding boots (high leg lace up combat boots, leather lined, leather laces) even after (say) three hours of rain, and your feet stay warm. also very good on leather riding gear, but most trousers have big patches of elastic or ribbing which obviously the Duckswax does not work on, I have two pairs of leather trouser, one set is an off the peg type made by Richa and annoyingly don't zip to my textile riding jacket of the same brand (differing zips??? what all that about?) and a bespoke pair which are 100% leather  and hence much better water proofed, only let down by me not wanting them too waxy or too shiny, and I need to be ten kilo's lighter than now in order to wear them dammit.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on September 01, 2018, 21:10
Today I spen a few hours riding the SFC1000, bringing a few tools to take the biek partially apart and inspect spark plugs, which have had a tendency to be soothy.
So, new spark plug caps and no Castrol Valvemaster and on the the motorway. After some driving I just turned it off, went to the roadside and inspected the spark plugs, which were oaky. A Little Black and Brown on the electrodes. Seemed clean enough. So not a problem with the #118 mail jeg I suppose.
The reassemble the bike and off to the back roads, where you use a lot more the idleing, low register, acceleration, deceleratio and so on. Soothy plugs.
The non-presence of Castrol Valvemaster+ is not the cause.
Tomorrow depending on dry roads, I'll have a go with pilot jets going from standard #65, to a set of #62,5.

By the way, it takes only 4 minutes and 10 seconds (and a further 1 minute and 20 for the fairing if need be) to calmly and in good order, find the tools in a backpack and undo the 10 bolts, the tank rubberband, the seat and tank, wires and fuel hoses, plus the tank breather, to inspect the spark plugs. Not bad I think, and it's dead easy. Try that on a Honda cbr1000rr fireblade.

Does someone have experience on changing the pilot jets on a sfc1000?

Gotta' love your Laverda ;)
Jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on September 02, 2018, 02:39
Remind me what the problem is with sooty plugs?
I wonder if in your quest for sootless plugs you will damage the correct running of the engine.
Sooty plugs is a by-product these days of unleaded fuel.
As you saw (I think) from your experiment, hard running means less sooty plugs and slow running means sooty plugs.
That is the way it is these days.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on September 02, 2018, 07:55
You may be right, we'll see if slower running, like in town etc, just means sooty plugs.

As it is now, It starts very easy, idles very soon after, pulls strongly from low down and all the way up to 8200 and pulls strongly in all gears. So performance-wise I have nothing to wish to alter or change or miss.

I don't see why I should damage an engine in trying to find out if I can make it run a bit cleaner in the lower register (idleing, slower speed up and Down etc). I am not trying to melt some pistons  :-X

Installing a set of keihins or Mikunis may prevent to a large extent this sooting of spark plugs as I have seen it on some other SFC1000, but I want to keep the DellOrto's. I don't think mine are worn in the barrels and otherwise. Internals are renewed, gaskets etc. are renewed around every 3'rd year. Bike's done 43.753 km in total as of yesterday.

Anyway, I'll try to see if small changes can produce something. Maybe #62,5 pilot jets are just a too big step down?

Soothy spark plugs are preventing the igniting of a fuel mix to the extend where it's not burning and the engine wil make a small glitch, if one can say so, eventually leading to an engine stop, where it's running on two cylinders.

I tried that. And there was a long way home on the back of a tow car in the middle of the night, on the way back from the anual Laverda meeting. And it costed the same as a set of DellOrto's.

If possible, I'd like to keep the standard values, jetting etc. That was really expensive I'll report back what I find.

Kind regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on September 02, 2018, 09:18
Do you still have the pumps activated?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on September 02, 2018, 09:36
You are chasing your tail.
Sooty plugs WILL happen due to the modern fuel formulations.
Going to 62.5 pilots will only take the carbs out of their optimal performance delivery slot.
All to chase less sooty plugs.
I just don't understand this obsession with sootless plugs.
My bike runs Mikunis and modern ignition system and the plugs soot up.
I don't have any low speed running issues, and I get 45mpg on a steady run.
I don't feel the need to chase smaller jets to make my bike run less sooty.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: SimonR501 on September 02, 2018, 10:14
Never mind about 'sooty' plugs, I want some 'soothy' plugs! They sound so much more laid back!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on September 02, 2018, 10:18
Hi Jacques I think your dream of having clean spark plugs maybe hard to achieve if at all.
Your pilot jets are still quite large in my opinion, regardless of sooty plugs try heading to 60s or 58s and see if it needs much choke after the engine is started, or if it hesitates off idle once warm. Accellerator pumps wont help either!!!!

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on September 02, 2018, 10:51
RGS and derivatives and 1200s use 65s as standard, 1000 180s use 55s as standard.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on September 02, 2018, 10:55
I get you points gentlemen, but I am talking small variances, or small increments.
I'll try out the 62,5 now and report back. Going to be interesting to see if there's any difference in Black powder or in engine power.
Kind regards,
jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on September 02, 2018, 10:59
Going to be interesting to see if there's any difference in Black powder or in engine power.


And ultimately futile.
You're not listening, so good luck with it.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on September 02, 2018, 11:13
I Love my clean burning 81 Jota with a sasche ignition and stock Dells  ;)
No sooting plugs.... just light tan color, been running same plugs for last 5 yrs  8) boodifull.

Keep playin with ya jets Jaq.....
Otherwise ya might find yourself doing some housework  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on September 02, 2018, 11:27
I had 58 pilots in my SFC1000 Grant and that engine was clean right through the rev range,
 But SFC1000s not for me.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on September 02, 2018, 12:25
I was just stating what was standard.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on September 02, 2018, 12:29
couldn't agree more Maurice, "But SFC1000s not for me" I had one (an SFC1000) for long term safe keeping a few years ago which I had bought for Norwegians friends, they allowed me to take it to Paris, France for an Amicale weekend and I finished up not wanting one, felt very like an RGS that had amateur fitment of aftermarket accessories, which in reality it is except that the "amateur" needed replacing with the word professional. At night there was more light coming at me from inside the fairing than was getting to the road ahead,  and the instrumentation????? speedo was so far out that warp factor 7 was achievable in town! Corsa???? now that is a very different bike and what an SFC is underneath!
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on September 02, 2018, 16:10
Unfortunately one of the brand new 62 pilot jets I just bought from Stein-Dinse is a size 82  :-X
So will have to order some more. Testing is now postponed

Kind regards,
jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on September 03, 2018, 02:15
Getting used to the sit up and beg style of the AE (GT bars) so thought it might look ok with a plain screen on. Found a cheapie universal fit one from Hong Kong for 50 bucks so thought worth a go. Fitted it, doesn't cause any problems with handling etc, doesn't buffet my head and provides a bit of protection - good for tucking in behind for a high speed run  :o (or more likely getting some protection from cane trash when passing a haul out ;) Anyway easily taken off, but I think it looks ok.
Speaking of high speed runs, I presume the 29mm carbies are a bit restrictive on these bikes??
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2F20180903_104327%2520a.jpg&hash=8037ce2eeb9b1b444af6b452e6134a20)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on September 03, 2018, 02:40
Nice patina.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: FNQ1000 on September 03, 2018, 04:37
Terry, you're such a hipster!!!

Peter the AE looks like it's enjoying the attention- good fun to ride?

Cheers
Jason
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on September 03, 2018, 05:47
It's real, not retro. Makes all the difference IMHO ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on September 03, 2018, 05:55
A pair of worn out leather saddlebags would do wonders for it.
How's the beard coming along Peter?  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: AndyW on September 03, 2018, 06:02
It's real, not retro. Makes all the difference IMHO ;)
Either way, Ian and I will knock a gallows up to be ready the next time we meet in Hahndorf...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on September 03, 2018, 06:04
Did you get your smashed up BM home Andrew?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: motoddrob on September 03, 2018, 06:05
Shave today Terry? ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on September 03, 2018, 07:06
You betcha! And I even wear socks!
(All hipsters must hang) ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on September 03, 2018, 07:43
Terry, you're such a hipster!!!

Peter the AE looks like it's enjoying the attention- good fun to ride?

Cheers
Jason
Hey Jason, took a bit of mucking around to recommission but yeh it is a lot of fun. Think I've finally got the brakes working ok and have to get used to actually using the rear a lot more!! I keep jumping on it and taking it for a spin so it must have something. Obviously it is a bit agricultural and I have to stop myself keep trying to wind it right out - should show some respect. Engine runs well. feels good low down and has a strong mid range but really doesn't seem to like revving too far (That was why I am curious if it because of the 29mm carbies)
Sitting out in the wind like Jacky is a bit different too, but anyway makes the Jota feel bloody quick :o 8)

As for the hipster comments :o :o C'mon you blokes , this is a cruiser (and I need my beard to stop food dropping on my shirt :-*)

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on September 03, 2018, 08:25
No hipster comments from me concerning the bike, it's the real, unfucked with, deal :D (congrats)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on September 03, 2018, 08:33
Getting used to the sit up and beg style of the AE (GT bars) so thought it might look ok with a plain screen on. Found a cheapie universal fit one from Hong Kong for 50 bucks so thought worth a go. Fitted it, doesn't cause any problems with handling etc, doesn't buffet my head and provides a bit of protection - good for tucking in behind for a high speed run  :o (or more likely getting some protection from cane trash when passing a haul out ;) Anyway easily taken off, but I think it looks ok.
Speaking of high speed runs, I presume the 29mm carbies are a bit restrictive on these bikes??
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1141.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn582%2Foam181%2F20180903_104327%2520a.jpg&hash=8037ce2eeb9b1b444af6b452e6134a20)

If you're mechanicaly minded, check the inlet tracts. You may well find them to be nearer 27mm than 29. Opening them out to match the carbs won't hurt in that case.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on September 03, 2018, 20:19

Speaking of high speed runs, I presume the 29mm carbies are a bit restrictive on these bikes??


Yes ...... need to get 30's and then it will really haul ass.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on September 03, 2018, 22:41
 
Yes ...... need to get 30's and then it will really haul ass.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on September 04, 2018, 00:18
Yes ...... need to get 30's and then it will really haul ass.
Well, not really looking for an autobahn cruiser or a downhill 2nd gear wheelier :o :o
(Just interested in making sure this is running as it should............................. ::))
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on September 04, 2018, 08:17
Check the inlet tracts in the head and let us know.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on September 04, 2018, 10:33
stop messing a stick a 45DCOE on it.
#CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on September 04, 2018, 14:12
been slapping some 750 engines together, 3 off specials
one each for Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne owners

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1870/44470226021_e2605422d7_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aKFwSR)4th Sept twisted engines (https://flic.kr/p/2aKFwSR)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on September 04, 2018, 14:28
Nice. What's the cc Red?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on September 04, 2018, 14:33
Nice. What's the cc Red?

880cc
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on September 04, 2018, 23:51
6-cylinder Laverda! Making me fret, red - I need garage time to get mine to that stage!

OS valve job as well?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on September 04, 2018, 23:53
All vapor blasted Red? They look super clean.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on September 05, 2018, 00:24
6-cylinder Laverda! Making me fret, red - I need garage time to get mine to that stage!

OS valve job as well?

I'm trying to make time to get out of the garage  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: olly on September 05, 2018, 13:33
What sort of performance increase would the work you're doing see please Red?
I'm guessing vibration is somewhat reduced too?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on September 05, 2018, 21:27
What sort of performance increase would the work you're doing see please Red?
I'm guessing vibration is somewhat reduced too?

The Test Rider may be able to give us a seat of the pants report ?
Whats say you Mr Muir  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on September 05, 2018, 22:32
What sort of performance increase would the work you're doing see please Red?
I'm guessing vibration is somewhat reduced too?

hard to say on the performance side, I'd guess somewhere around the 25% mark, right hand engine will be better as it is running higher compression pistons as opposed to the other two engines which have low compression pistons, all the same bore size. Biggest difference that you notice is how the engine reacts, they tend to build revs a lot faster than a standard 360 crank set up due to the phase change and lighter crank/piston combo so feels totally different

vibrations are dramatically reduced which is a bonus, don't have to carry spare horns and mirrors  :D


Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: markQLD on September 06, 2018, 11:58
The Test Rider may be able to give us a seat of the pants report ?
Whats say you Mr Muir  ;)
Oye! what happens in The Shed stays in The Shed (dunno)    nuff said   :-X
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: hooksey on September 06, 2018, 13:21
Ah well , worth a try. Will have ta chew your ear over a stubby or two  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on September 06, 2018, 13:39
Have been sorting my new 3C, all is good, except for losing spark on center cylinder after 10 min of easy riding, definitely a heat related issue as it comes back when it cools, it is one of Reds Ignitech systems, have changed coils , plug caps and wires, only thing left is pickups, anyone else have a problem like this with Ignitech ignitions? system is brand new,   Thanks for any advice,   Cheers Lee
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Gravelroad on September 06, 2018, 22:26
Lee, I'd say you're on the track with the pickups. If these are Hall-type pickups, you might be able to check or a defect pickup by measuring voltage changes at the pickup wires, while cranking the hot engine over by hand. There should be a distinctive voltage decrease/increase reading on your multimeter at a certain point. If you have a constant voltage reading over an entire revolution of the crank, then most probably the respective pickup is at fault.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on September 06, 2018, 22:55
Lee, I'd say you're on the track with the pickups. If these are Hall-type pickups, you might be able to check or a defect pickup by measuring voltage changes at the pickup wires, while cranking the hot engine over by hand. There should be a distinctive voltage decrease/increase reading on your multimeter at a certain point. If you have a constant voltage reading over an entire revolution of the crank, then most probably the respective pickup is at fault.

you will not get any reading at all by cranking the engine over by hand as the Ignitech box is programmed to not provide spark until one revolution is seen and no matter how fast you crank that engine by hand the box does not register the one revolution, I have tried in the past to do something similar
Lee would need to change the software setting to zero revolutions and reprogram the box to see a spark when turning the engine over by hand
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on September 07, 2018, 10:57
Check the inlet tracts in the head and let us know.

Paul
Ok Paul, have checked and presume you will not be surprised at result!
Inlet tract certainly measures app 27mm. Interestingly though, the insulating spacer is tapered and measures 29mm on carb manifold side reducing to 27mm head side, so I guess this was deliberate??
Comments welcome.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on September 07, 2018, 11:24
First time I've heard about that on the spacers. Deliberate? Maybe.

The inlets on my S were 27mm as well, but in view of the sporting pretensions of the machine, I opened them out.
Somebody more learned than I can certainly advise on your GT.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Gravelroad on September 07, 2018, 11:43
you will not get any reading at all by cranking the engine over by hand as the Ignitech box is programmed to not provide spark until one revolution is seen and no matter how fast you crank that engine by hand the box does not register the one revolution, I have tried in the past to do something similar
Lee would need to change the software setting to zero revolutions and reprogram the box to see a spark when turning the engine over by hand

I totally agree, Red. But my intention was not to look for a spark, but to watch the pickup signal wires. With Hall type pickups, I'm pretty much sure the Ignitech will "listen", means it will power up the pickups and wait for a signal coming in, so there should be a notable voltage signal coming from the pickups when cranking over by hand. Won't work with the original inductive Bosch pickups, though. However, I would consider the Bosch series 1 pickups somehow as indestructible, once their brittle old wiring had been replaced with proper silicon insulated stuff.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on September 07, 2018, 12:56
Well changed trigger board last night I have a brand new ignition on the shelf, and now have no spark,put old triggers back on and have spark to 1-3 no spark on 2, same as before only now it's no spark on 2 even cold,what are the odds of having a brand new trigger board that is bad, this sucks as the bike ran so good, I want to ride it, is ther another test to confirm these are good or bad? like an ohms reading or something?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Gravelroad on September 07, 2018, 14:32
Lee, that erratic behavior sounds to me a bit like you have a loose contact somewhere. I'd recommend to unplug the multiple connector of the Ignitech and check all it's wires having continuity to their endpoints, especially the ones going to the trigger board and the ignition coils. I'd consider the loom section running through the engine case as most susceptible for possible damage.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on September 07, 2018, 16:13
I have checked all connections redid all earth connections, swapped main box ,no change, the only variance i have found is while cranking engine the trigger that is working starts a 4.1 volts and drops to 3.7 volts all the others stay at 4.1 volts,, stumped for now, Red is helping and I'm sure he'll find a fix..
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on September 07, 2018, 23:16
First time I've heard about that on the spacers. Deliberate? Maybe.

The inlets on my S were 27mm as well, but in view of the sporting pretensions of the machine, I opened them out.
Somebody more learned than I can certainly advise on your GT.

Paul
Thanks Paul.
I assume that when you matched your inlets to the carbs it ran better at higher revs?
I understand the GT is a bit different and probably won't bother unless I have to do other work to the engine, just trying to understand the current limitations. Mine runs well at low and mid range and I know I should just be kind and happy to operate in that area :-[. (just feels a bit strangled much over 5,000 revs)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on September 08, 2018, 06:12
Lee, that erratic behavior sounds to me a bit like you have a loose contact somewhere. I'd recommend to unplug the multiple connector of the Ignitech and check all it's wires having continuity to their endpoints, especially the ones going to the trigger board and the ignition coils. I'd consider the loom section running through the engine case as most susceptible for possible damage.
  It's fixed. the rotor was too far in and the pickups couldn't sense the magnets, runs great now
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on September 08, 2018, 07:43
Thanks Paul.
I assume that when you matched your inlets to the carbs it ran better at higher revs?
I understand the GT is a bit different and probably won't bother unless I have to do other work to the engine, just trying to understand the current limitations. Mine runs well at low and mid range and I know I should just be kind and happy to operate in that area :-[. (just feels a bit strangled much over 5,000 revs)

Quite honestly, I don't know!

I restored that S to as new near 20 years back with notably a complete engine overhaul, and then never used it! Life goes by so fast.

The S is now on the bench for reconditioning, it's suffered from storage, and should be back on the road this winter.

It reved very well in the couple of years I used it before but should be a lot smoother now.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on September 08, 2018, 08:40
Thanks Paul.
I assume that when you matched your inlets to the carbs it ran better at higher revs?
I understand the GT is a bit different and probably won't bother unless I have to do other work to the engine, just trying to understand the current limitations. Mine runs well at low and mid range and I know I should just be kind and happy to operate in that area :-[. (just feels a bit strangled much over 5,000 revs)
Maybe this should be it´s own topic in technical. To avoid having to trowel back through this section looking for what has been checked and tried.
It could be slightly mismatched inlets (very easy to rectify) but there are various other things that affect revability. I haven´t ridden a GT type twin since the ´70s when I was road testing serviced bikes around the Kew Boulevarde, but I´m sure they should pull 6500 or more without problem. Plenty of relatively small square slide fitted bikes performed pretty well so this shouldn´t be any different.
It is fairly easy to check how far out cam timing is, but a bit of a job to pull it into spec other than fitting a new camchain. How is compression/valve sealing? A leakdown test will tell if you are losing pressure, and even a normal winding over on the starter type tester will give an idea. Is the ignition timing spot on at full advance on both sides? Are the mufflers as good as open as the originals were? Does it rev out in lower gears at less throttle, could it be a simple main jet issue?
It would be interesting to find out why it won´t rev out more freely.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on September 08, 2018, 22:16
Maybe this should be it´s own topic in technical. To avoid having to trowel back through this section looking for what has been checked and tried.
It could be slightly mismatched inlets (very easy to rectify) but there are various other things that affect revability. I haven´t ridden a GT type twin since the ´70s when I was road testing serviced bikes around the Kew Boulevarde, but I´m sure they should pull 6500 or more without problem. Plenty of relatively small square slide fitted bikes performed pretty well so this shouldn´t be any different.
It is fairly easy to check how far out cam timing is, but a bit of a job to pull it into spec other than fitting a new camchain. How is compression/valve sealing? A leakdown test will tell if you are losing pressure, and even a normal winding over on the starter type tester will give an idea. Is the ignition timing spot on at full advance on both sides? Are the mufflers as good as open as the originals were? Does it rev out in lower gears at less throttle, could it be a simple main jet issue?
It would be interesting to find out why it won´t rev out more freely.
Hi Tippie, all fair comments. Probably should be in tech but originally it was more a throw away line to see if anyone would comment on how a 29mm carbed bike ran. (To be fair I guess not too many are worried about how fast a 50 yo motor will go :o) I have been tweaking many things as I go however notice it does seem to be quite susceptible to carbie issues. (Had quite a time originally getting rid of all the pops and bangs and getting it to idle right!) I bought new jets and needles just as a matter of course. Main jets in the bike were 112 and the green book said should be 116 (although I think JLO's site said 112). Anyhow got some 115s and predictably not a noticeable difference, maybe I'll try some bigger just for reference. Interestingly Pilot jets were 50 and changed them to 55s (as per green book) however that made running just off idle quite poor (fluffy) so changed back to 50s which are obviously the correct ones. Originally I also had an issue with the throttle as the grip would slip just slightly and being a quick action made running a bit erratic. Also had to ensure carbs were angled just right and take extra care routing cables to get as free a pull as possible as action is quite hard and cables would hang up at the drop of a hat.
Anyhow, at this stage not particularly concerned as bike is running very well at normal operating speeds and will just continue to tinker and ensure it is reliable. I have no doubt there is some other issues as it had been sitting for a long time and would benefit from a complete strip!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: markQLD on September 09, 2018, 11:02
Gave it a little bit of lovin'
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10581%2F20180909-CLQ_run.JPG&hash=998ada234a3591f4fe8217887b7cc819)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on September 09, 2018, 23:49
Finally got the 3C ignition sorted it's running perfect, decide to go for a short ride,get a mile from my house and the bike dies, no electrical power , nothing works, after poking around and wiggling wires ,found a internal break in the main power feed to the fuse box, the wire does a sharp bend under the fuse box and and wire broke internally, runs great now and had a great ride, one more week till our IMOC event, Laverda is the featured bike this year
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: lavgert on September 10, 2018, 11:57
... I had my 750 SFC displayed at the Moto Circle Vienna 2018 bike festival!
Ciao, Gert
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on September 10, 2018, 12:34
 (bigthumb)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on September 10, 2018, 15:42
Why the thick web on the front Gert?

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: lavgert on September 10, 2018, 15:49
... I bought it with the thick web front wheel, the thin web is lying in my workshop for month ...
Ciao, Gert
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on September 10, 2018, 18:42
... I bought it with the thick web front wheel, the thin web is lying in my workshop for month ...
Ciao, Gert

Usual story  :D

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on September 10, 2018, 21:44
 (bigthumb) :) :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on September 12, 2018, 13:51
Now that I have the 3C fully sorted, time to work on the 3CL, brake system rebuilt, changed out slightly bent front wheel, tonight I'll mount brakes and bleed, put battery in and go for a ride
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on September 12, 2018, 17:35
Fitted this, will make checking and topping up oil much easier.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1842/29597020627_6312e8b6ad_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/M6ot66)2018-09-07 13.57.43 (https://flic.kr/p/M6ot66) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on September 16, 2018, 08:19
Changed the oil, raised the needles another notch :o that was the last available, took bike for a squirt (turned into a four hour session) constant throttle stutter has almost gone, just the smallest amount of fluffy about 2500-3000rpm (that’s being very critical)

But great from 80 to about 130klm, in top gear. Can’t be sure of speeds, as the second magnet for speedo went AWOL about 2 Klms from home  :(

Looking forward to my new seat Steph, my arse feels like I just spent the night with Elton John, bar the cuddle afterwards.

Bump halfway around a fast right-hander has forced me to soften the front forks..... a bit of fun for a moment.

On the matter of forks, after a discussion about them elsewhere last week, had a good look at them at highway speeds, and they do nothing but go up and down...... no flex seen, at all.

So after a little more fettleling, very pleased.



Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on September 16, 2018, 18:12

On the matter of forks, after a discussion about them elsewhere last week, had a good look at them at highway speeds, and they do nothing but go up and down...... no flex seen, at all.


If they were flexing while you were looking at them ...... I doubt you would be telling the same story. I think you would be mentioning Arnold Schwarzenegger rather than Elton John.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: lavgert on September 17, 2018, 16:33
... on Saturday I had a visit from Australia in my workshop!  ;)
Ciao, Gert
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on September 17, 2018, 17:59
Rode to work-

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1874/29805673427_34ebe95eb9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MpPSia) (https://flic.kr/p/MpPSia)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: breganzane on September 17, 2018, 18:21
... on Saturday I had a visit from Australia in my workshop!  ;)
Ciao, Gert

And a jolly good evening was had by all!  :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on September 17, 2018, 19:43
... on Saturday I had a visit from Australia in my workshop!  ;)
Ciao, Gert

Oi, what’s he doing there? I smell a rat ....... pre-purchase visit perhaps?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: lavgert on September 17, 2018, 22:41
Oi, what’s he doing there? I smell a rat ....... pre-purchase visit perhaps?
... don't worry Chris, no purchases, just a little present! 😉
Ciao, Gert
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on September 18, 2018, 01:54
just a little present! 😉

I'm betting that present came in a bottle and had some percentage of alcohol in its contents.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on September 18, 2018, 04:24
... don't worry Chris, no purchases, just a little present! 😉
Ciao, Gert
Hey Gert I certainly hope he kept his promise and I quote "red wine will never touch my lips again" after a recent visit down south to my place!!!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: breganzane on September 18, 2018, 20:11
Oi, what’s he doing there? I smell a rat ....... pre-purchase visit perhaps?

Got the lusty new 120 triple cooling off in the parking lot of a nice Austrian hotel as we speak...  Gradually ticking itself cool after a spirited run through the mülviertel.  What could be better?

:)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on September 20, 2018, 06:56
Things came together and gave me spare time so into the shed to try and sort out adaptors to fit 4 pot calipers to my 76 Ceriani forks.

2 hours later after much fit and refit and visits to the grinder I decided that I wasn't 100% confident that 8mm thickness of aluminium was going to keep me safe when I slam brakes on. I figured fabrication in stainless would probably be safer but I really just want to ride the thing rather than spend my life in the shed. So there are now 2 brand new 4 pot goldline Brembo calipers listed in the for sale section, the forks have been returned to their rightful positions and 2 new single bleed F08 calipers will be fitted.

The twin bleed calipers will be put in the safe along with the all metal front master cylinder. :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on September 20, 2018, 07:11
It has been done in Aluminium before for Ceriani forks.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on September 20, 2018, 07:50
Davo,

The braking forces are not that difficult to figure out. If you send me a drawing of the adaptor I could do a bit of stress analysis arithmetic on it. 8mm thick aluminium might be OK

I wouldn't use stainless for that application. It's harder to work with than mild steel but not as strong. If it were me I'd just use ordinary low carbon steel. You can get it chromed, powder coated or painted, depending on the look you're after. How about brass plating? It looks like very much like gold plate, so will keep the punters guessing.  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: motoddrob on September 20, 2018, 08:42
I fitted a pair of 4 pots but with 65mm spacing to my Marzos. I made a template out of perspex then sent it off to my CNC mate where he measured and programmed it.
I gave him license to remove ally where he saw fit and they came back beautiful but the thinnest section through mounting holes  ended up being 6mm.
Where I had recessed the bolt heads he removed the ally around it partially. I quizzed him about it and he reckons there was enough material there for the purpose.
He's a German precision engineer and pretty clever so I have confidence in his calculations.
So far so good!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on September 20, 2018, 10:29
I tried making a set of templates out of customwood but its not as easy as I thought it would be. Pete Smith of Epicycle fame made mine, he had a program that could apply all the parameters and CnCed some. It only took 8 or 9 months. He had some  fantastic excuses
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: motoddrob on September 20, 2018, 11:36
Not sure if this will work, A photo of my adapters

http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/motoddrob/media/cGF0aDpSZWJ1bGQvUDgyMjA0MDZfenBzMjkzOWM2MmIuanBn/?ref=1

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on September 20, 2018, 12:03
Thanks for the advice above. The problem with the Ceriani forks compared to Marzos is they have a different offset on the "ears" the calipers mount to as I discovered when I tried to use the std Marzo adaptors available from the usual suspects. Red used to make adaptors for the 40mm mount 4 pots for Ceriani forks and std 280mm rotors but told me some time back he no longer makes them for safety reasons.

And that is before sorting out the shim thickness required for the speedo side and longer speedo cable.

I don't ride the thing hard enough to really need better brakes than I had when I first bought it and rode it like a lunatic so standard brakes will be fine. I just had the Brembo 4 pots sitting there from another project which has gone into the ether so thought to give it a go.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on September 20, 2018, 19:03
Discs going off to ABE http://www.allbikeengineering.co.uk/ for new bobbins, one floats a lot the other hardly at all.Circlips rusty and came with the bike.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1848/44807120331_eb1706c40a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bgscPr) (https://flic.kr/p/2bgscPr)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on September 21, 2018, 08:50
Did a few little jobs on the Guzzi LM1 tractor.  What has that got to do with Laverda?  Well, now that the Guzzi is sorted and rideable (although there's still a wish list for that bike), I can get it off the bike lift and wheel a mate's Jota up onto the lift for a bit of fettling.  He has a list of things that need doing so I'll make a start on it tomorrow.

Why did I spend the best part of 40 years working on bikes without a bike lift table? I'm not a masochist so I can only put it down to stupidity. 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: 81Lav on September 21, 2018, 09:14
I hear you Cam,
Only problem is you need more than 1 bike lift  ;D
That is unless you are so organised you can get them on and off quick smart.

Cheers
Bruce K
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on September 21, 2018, 09:28
I need a bigger workshop. I don't have room for more than one bike lift.  :(
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on September 22, 2018, 04:55
I got a bigger workshop, fills up very quickly with shit.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on September 22, 2018, 05:19
Yes. Junk in workshops seems to take on the same physical properties as gas. It expands to fill the available space.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverda SF on September 22, 2018, 05:23
40's Coleman Gas Lantern - I can relate that ;o)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: lavgert on September 22, 2018, 08:19
Got the lusty new 120 triple cooling off in the parking lot of a nice Austrian hotel as we speak...  Gradually ticking itself cool after a spirited run through the mülviertel.  What could be better?

:)
... lusty new 120 triple with two or four wheels?😉
Ciao, Gert
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on October 01, 2018, 19:41
Just got myself an extra set of ignition coils from an RGS, so 3 white denso coils, bracket etc. for the SFC, so measured them to be good, cleaned them up, sanded the bracket and added new stainless unbrakobolts and locking nuts, new spark plug caps and new quality high voltage leads. Actually real easy to change by removing the epoxy, undo the cables and epoxy in new cables.

Kind regards,
jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on October 01, 2018, 22:40
Hung up my new to me dealer sign in my shop, beautiful,
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: henrywillms on October 02, 2018, 03:51
Bit of a sad day for me.....the riding season here is all but over, and the Laverda is starting an early hibernation.  Coldest Sept in history or something like that and rain, rain rain....very uncharacteristic for Sept on the Canadian Prairies. I have to give myself a grade of "D" for spending time with the Corsa  this  riding season. I did finish the restoration in the spring but then got too busy moving houses and building a new garage/shop to ride it. Construction of the new shop is getting close to finished, installed the boiler system for the heated floor (you Aussies have no idea what I am talking about do you) and now working on the siding, trying to beat winter. After that will spend some time inside getting the new shop organized. I have away too much crap but at least the Corsa will be warm this winter!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on October 07, 2018, 22:07
Since the sump plug couldn't sit tight any more, I cut the new thread 1mm bigger to 15mm * 1,5 and fitted a new sump plug (thanks to Lothar!), and it Works fine.

Kind regards,
jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on October 10, 2018, 12:33
Had a quiet afternoon so new wiring sub-looms fitted to the tacho and speedo. Thanks Grant for the link to the Japanese supplier. They rubber boots were a perfect snug fit, just needed to change the connectors. Also they were great to deal with and very speedy with the post.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on October 11, 2018, 11:52
It must be the season for it. Another quiet arvo and more wiring, this time a new sub-loom for the horns. Also fitted the new calipers, carefully cleaned the original twin bleed threaded mount calipers and put them in the safe. Other matters have delayed my re-rebuild but recent news has given me renewed enthusiasm and the time to use it. Hopefully back on the road before this summer get too stinking hot.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on October 12, 2018, 01:54
sub-loom for the horns.

Is "sub-loom" a fancy name for a piece of wire?

I did a horn relay installation on someone's bike the other day, it required a couple of bits of wire from my stock. Perhaps if I'd written relay and sub-loom on the invoice I could have charged twice as much.  :D

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on October 12, 2018, 05:13
No, it's a sub-loom.
A separate smaller loom in it's own right.
A different entity in it's own way.
Not supplied when you buy a new loom, such as horn or coils wiring.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on October 12, 2018, 08:27
Common term over here, like my 3C horns, not much I grant you, but denotes a separate section of wiring in it"s own right as grant says.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: breganzane on October 12, 2018, 10:32
... lusty new 120 triple with two or four wheels?😉
Ciao, Gert

Sadly, it was a Dacia Logan....  (puke)
Actually, a lot less bad than I expected.  It took us around, gave us some laughs and was named "white lightning"... the irony heavy.
I wouldn't use THAT rental company again though, it was meant to be an Opel Astra.  "Equivalent"??  Yeah...nah.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Bottler on October 12, 2018, 11:12
Hey Steve, I just had to check with Dr Google to see if the Dacia was some rare motorbike I had never heard of, but sadly no such luck for you! Yeah, nah!

Cheers

Bottler
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: breganzane on October 12, 2018, 12:55
Hey Steve, I just had to check with Dr Google to see if the Dacia was some rare motorbike I had never heard of, but sadly no such luck for you! Yeah, nah!

Definitely a fail, nice trip though.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Bottler on October 12, 2018, 13:27
Shit happens dude!

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: breganzane on October 12, 2018, 13:38
Shit happens dude!

The best bits of the trip were perhaps - coincidentally - when we didn't have the Dacia... visits to Laverda friends in Austria and Holland.  Fantastic.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Bottler on October 13, 2018, 10:48
Glad you had a fun time, i hope to be home for good, and retired, in about 12 months, so am really looking forward to the day I can go and resurrect the Jota.

Cheers
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Shajota on October 14, 2018, 23:29
Fitted a new condenser which has fixed an annoying intermittent miss. The miss was only in 5th gear and usually occurred briefly if accelerating around 4,000 revs, then would appear on and off at higher revs.( Think on some occasions may have noticed it in 4thgear) When I checked one condenser was loose on its (rusty) rivet (condenser also looked in poor shape so changed for a new one) 
Looked at rivet fixing and thought it might be problematic to use nut and bolt without vibrating loose so decided to rivet new one on.
Normally would do a search of the forum to look for any relevant dos or don’ts, however, unfortunately, had a quick look after fitting and found a comment (Paul M) that said “as a matter of courser” rivets should be replaced! Oh well, will make some time later and do them both, just presume loctite or nyloc……………
Anyway all running very sweetly, back to trying different size mains
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on October 15, 2018, 07:33
At a guess you are talking about an SF. I have mounted replacement condensers with screws and nuts without problem.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on October 20, 2018, 21:52
Spent hours changing fork oil, from 10 weight to 5 weight   >:(

Trying to seat the damper rods was a pain in the arse. Remembering the forks are 46mm Conventional fork of a Suzuki. I managed to download a Suzuki manual, and scoffed at the need for special tool, until the damper rods spun freely while trying to tighten the cap screws that locate and seal the damper rods.

Tried upping the damper, hoping the extra spring  tension would help .... not.

Pull everything apart, start again and made up a special tool .... Part no.WBH.

Successful use of the Wooden Broom Handle stuffed down each fork did the trick.

Put everything back together, wheel back on, new speedo rare earth magnet fitted to the rotor carrier and I now have a slightly more softer front end and a speedo that works.

Test ride was the best part, couldn’t get the front brake to lock up, which was causing me issues, and partly the reason fork the oil change.  8)



Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on October 21, 2018, 03:19
Chris, rattle gun on that alan bolt.Quick burst will nip it before the spinning of the rod. Even a cordless one works.Just about all modern suspension used 5wt
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on October 21, 2018, 04:31
Just been driving back from visiting family....... my brain was in bike gear, and I’ve just had an epiphany........ more to follow when I confirm my thoughts.

Enter one hydraulic clutch for a twin ... watch this space.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on October 21, 2018, 06:59
Just been driving back from visiting family....... my brain was in bike gear, and I’ve just had an epiphany........ more to follow when I confirm my thoughts.

Enter one hydraulic clutch for a twin ... watch this space.

have a hydraulic clutch here that will bolt straight on

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on October 21, 2018, 08:21
Chris, rattle gun on that alan bolt.Quick burst will nip it before the spinning of the rod. Even a cordless one works.Just about all modern suspension used 5wt

Rattle gun or household electric drill on hammer position.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on October 21, 2018, 21:28
have a hydraulic clutch here that will bolt straight on

If my idea fails, I may well take you up on that Red.

Those train carriage springs you fitted to my clutch are so heavy on my left hand, even with the Easy Clutch arm, it makes me not want to pull up to a stop, and if can’t find neutral before stopping find myself grunting until the lights turn green.

On the plus side, have found no slip with the Kevlar plates and heavy duty springs.

Must go, have to head off to shops to buy myself a new dress.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on October 21, 2018, 21:32
Rattle gun or household electric drill on hammer position.

Paul

Thanks Vince and Paul, but the horse already bolted.
Will keep in mind for next time.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on October 21, 2018, 21:55
Off to put the Yellow Peril on historic rego today :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redfox on October 21, 2018, 22:53
Spent a bit of time in the mancave preparing some much needed lighter bits and bobs for the SFC1000. Would have been installed today as well, if it hadn't been for the nasty stomac bacteria I caught up in the high Caucasus Mountains last week, which demanded me to run to the toilet... ;(

Anyway, to be installed asap.

Vivere la velocità con intelligenza,
Jacques
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: aebbern on October 22, 2018, 00:56
Got out for the final ride of the season - this was taken today near Canmore, Alberta.  Beautiful fall weather here now (after a nasty early winter storm 3 weeks ago), nothing like riding the Laverda on days like this.

Feel pretty lucky to have scenery like this within 45 min of my house, at least for 6 months of the year  :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on October 22, 2018, 01:22
Beautiful. And not a single fuzz with a speed radar in sight, hopefully.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LaverdaIan on October 22, 2018, 08:19
Down the shed with young bloke.. more work for the Formula.. we had planned to build the brakes and paint the exhaust.. but being a diligent little Laverda apprentice, Joe thought we should check the shims after the first couple of running in runs.. Leakdown was a bit poor also, so need to get the bottom of it.
Sure enough, re shim required on 2 exhaust valves, and the rest were a bit out as well.
Setting it up at TDC to break the chain was a bit of a pain.. ;) as one of the cams was on a bucket and wanted to rotate.. until.. yes we remember now.. Old Uncle Red showed us that all we had to do was find the relaxed position of both cams and just mark the chain and sprockets at that point. As long as the motor doesn't move, just put it back to the same marks.. "who needs TDC when you have Red to guide you.." Good job done, and time for a beer..
Thanks Red

 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Digger on October 22, 2018, 17:29
Making the most of the good weather and have been using the old girl to commute to work.  Took a cheeky half day holiday today and popped to the seaside (post beach race) :-)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on October 22, 2018, 18:23
Nice shot,did you go to the beach race? Been years back,but said it was £20 a ticket!

Shaun
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Digger on October 22, 2018, 18:29
Nice shot,did you go to the beach race? Been years back,but said it was £20 a ticket!

No I didn't Shaun. Yeah, it was something like £25 a ticket. Haven't been for about 20 years. I think Dave Thorpe was in it last time I went!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on October 22, 2018, 19:45
Ha same , must meet up, kettles always on here, or Blue Anchor next year when I'm there!

Cheers.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Digger on October 22, 2018, 20:40
Ha same , must meet up, kettles always on here, or Blue Anchor next year when I'm there!

Sounds good. 👍
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on October 22, 2018, 23:05
Got out for the final ride of the season - this was taken today near Canmore, Alberta.  Beautiful fall weather here now (after a nasty early winter storm 3 weeks ago), nothing like riding the Laverda on days like this.

Feel pretty lucky to have scenery like this within 45 min of my house, at least for 6 months of the year  :)

Does your 1200 have stainless rotors? They look very  ::) ......... not rusty.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on October 23, 2018, 11:38
charging entry for a beach race is an interesting one, since the land between the high and low water marks is owned by the crown (ie HRH the Queen) it is available freely to the general public under rights of way laws? the exceptions are in PERMANENT dangerous or secure areas, such as docks, MOD land etc
or did I get that wrong.

my son Tom has raced there a few times and it is just too busy and manic from a competitors or spectators point of view, and too many competition and road bikes nicked during the weekend as well.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: phil37 on October 23, 2018, 11:48
  Beach racing free for spectators at Mablethorpe!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: davidf on October 23, 2018, 11:53
MOT'd the Mirage this morning, passed with flying colours.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on October 23, 2018, 11:55
Tom has done that one as well and was right up the derriere of regular winner George Pickering who lives 5 miles away and is a top level flat tracker, he also has his own flat track circuit on his farm, which is used as part of the UK 8 round series plus a transport company with about ten HGV's
not bad for a 25 year old!

Tom has stated that he wont do beach racing again, because of the rust and corrosion he found on his bike up to 6 months and even a year later, despite copious pressure washing with clean water, at the track, and again back home the following day.

There must be something you can put into water to neutralise or remove sea salt surely?
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Simon Y on October 23, 2018, 12:06
David - more rewarding than teaching? ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: aebbern on October 23, 2018, 12:55
Does your 1200 have stainless rotors? They look very  ::) ......... not rusty.
They are new units I picked up from Wolfgang a couple of yrs back - but they aren't stainless.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on October 23, 2018, 15:04
Last time at WSM was visiting Dismaland , an excellent evening indeed!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on October 23, 2018, 19:09

There must be something you can put into water to neutralise or remove sea salt surely?
CLEM

Bicarb soda
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Digger on October 23, 2018, 19:45

Tom has stated that he wont do beach racing again, because of the rust and corrosion he found on his bike up to 6 months and even a year later, despite copious pressure washing with clean water, at the track, and again back home the following day

Small obvious tip - never buy a motocross bike shortly after the beach race
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on October 27, 2018, 17:25
After various unforseen problems I finally hauled the engine out of my 3C to put all the head studs back in the right way round, ready for its trip to Breganze next year.
As I was attending to the offending items I noticed a lack of washers under some of the head nuts and the usual crushed cam blocks but these were much more crushed than the ones in my old 3C ever became.
I started thinking there was a bit of ham-fistedness on show and then, the icing on the cake, all the 6mm nuts across the front of the lower crankcase had wedge shaped pieces of alloy broken off the casing on the front edges. The nuts are sitting at an angle, just like the cam blocks in fact.
The whole thing will have to come to bits now and the cases be repaired.
I'm at a loss to know how you can break lumps off the casings like that.
God knows what I'll find inside the engine, I've found more bodges and damage in this one than any other triple I've had so far.
I'll take it apart tomorrow and then look for someone to fix the cases.


Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on October 27, 2018, 21:10
Yikes!

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on October 28, 2018, 11:33
get a set of replacement or even new cases
new ones come without any numbers  stamped, just left blank,
if used ones, then get the numbers drilled out (right the way through) welded over, grind flat again and then sand blast the area before re-stamping your correct number.
repairs very close to the joint face are never easy, I have a dummy crank  made up in order to keep the cases straight if you are going to do any welding to them, and a jig for holding the cases on a mill table at the correct angle for drilling/setting the 9mm time certs or facing joints etc etc, not entirely a vital bit of kit but speeds up by about ten fold the setting up of them on a mill.

CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: earemike on October 28, 2018, 12:37
New carbs  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on October 28, 2018, 13:11
Blimey, is there any useful kit you dont have Clem?!😉
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on October 28, 2018, 16:53
get a set of replacement or even new cases
new ones come without any numbers  stamped, just left blank,
if used ones, then get the numbers drilled out (right the way through) welded over, grind flat again and then sand blast the area before re-stamping your correct number.
repairs very close to the joint face are never easy, I have a dummy crank  made up in order to keep the cases straight if you are going to do any welding to them, and a jig for holding the cases on a mill table at the correct angle for drilling/setting the 9mm time certs or facing joints etc etc, not entirely a vital bit of kit but speeds up by about ten fold the setting up of them on a mill.

CLEM

Laser welding makes a doddle of this sort of stuff.  No heat distortion, no giant weld beads to dress up.  A quick dab on the mill to re-dress the fixing surface and all could be fine.

Much the same with case stampings...

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on October 28, 2018, 19:02
Thank God for that! I was just about to sell the bike for scrap  :D
I've delved further into the innards today and I cant see any more damage as yet apart from a cracked fin on the barrels where someone has tried to lever the head off.
I expected the 6mm crankcase nuts, where the damage is, to be over tightened but they were actually fairly loose. The carnage must be from a previous life of abuse.
I would doubt that there are any new sets of pre-oil cooler cases left on the shelf anyway, but you never know.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on October 28, 2018, 21:08


Much the same with case stampings...

piet

I don’t want to ask for further explanation.

But, does laser welding of engine numbers make them x-ray proof?
Oops, I sort of asked.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on October 29, 2018, 10:50
putting the top case on a drill press and drilling right through every number or better still a mill, and cut a slot, removes all traces of any number,

I CERTAINLY DO NOT CONDONE THIS IF THERE IS ANY DOUBT OR QUESTION ABOUT WHO OWNS THE CASES

But if they are legally and legitimately your property, I see no reason why the number of a damaged beyond repair case should not be changed to the number of the ones you are then replacing them with, but in every case (sorry about the pun) you should totally destroy the old set, so that the number remains unique to the bike and no bike can ever "appear" with the same number that you originally had.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Simon Y on October 29, 2018, 12:47
May I ask that no one submits a suggested DO'S and DON'TS regarding engine numbers. ??? :-\ ???
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on October 29, 2018, 13:27
I'm Brian and so's me wife  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on October 29, 2018, 19:21
putting the top case on a drill press and drilling right through every number or better still a mill, and cut a slot, removes all traces of any number,

I CERTAINLY DO NOT CONDONE THIS IF THERE IS ANY DOUBT OR QUESTION ABOUT WHO OWNS THE CASES

But if they are legally and legitimately your property, I see no reason why the number of a damaged beyond repair case should not be changed to the number of the ones you are then replacing them with, but in every case (sorry about the pun) you should totally destroy the old set, so that the number remains unique to the bike and no bike can ever "appear" with the same number that you originally had.
CLEM

Engine numbers are not always as important as they are in the UK.

As I understand it, a UK motorcycle is identified solely by its engine number, making chassis swaps easy.  Many other countries, ie, Germany, use the frame as identifying component.  Engine swaps here are a non-issue, as long as same is replaced with same, the number being of no importance (unless it is on records as stolen).

Of course, erasing a number and replacing with another should be done entirely at own risk, and with own property. 

Reckon the world won't stop turning if 2 sets of cases turn up with the same number... would certainly cause a little head-scratching, but the chances having them turn up at the same place at the same time are slimmer than slim.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on October 29, 2018, 19:24
I saw it.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on October 29, 2018, 20:24
Yesterday I was pissed, real pissed. Carlo and his mini indicators, and the upcoming Snowy Rally in parts of this country where the cops have no sense of humour, made me do something about putting some stealth blinkers on the back of my bike.

Purchased, modified what I had to, wired them up ..... blinking on the left, no blink on the right  ???

Checked plug at bike all good. FFF, did some Google research, and noted that LED lights are polarity sensitive. I postulated, surely Hueng in the Chinese blinker sweatshop couldn’t have put the red wire wher the black one should have been.

Reversed the wires ...... Hueng must have had a bad day!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on October 29, 2018, 21:29
Reckon the world won't stop turning if 2 sets of cases turn up with the same number... would certainly cause a little head-scratching, but the chances having them turn up at the same place at the same time are slimmer than slim.

I know that there are two instances of identical engine numbers being recorded already on JLO's registry
these are triple numbers, #4052 is in Brisbane, Australia and also listed as being in Germany, both owners have sent him photos of the engine stamping to confirm
can say the Brisbane bike was in my workshop on the weekend and is a matching number bike

and #7802 being an 81 Jota and a matching number bike is one of my old Jota's that we sold to SCRman as we owned too many 81 Jota's but same engine number is listed as being in Croatia as well and that owner sent JLO a photo of his engine stamping

does that mean the dude in the stamping section stuffed up a few times ?
wonder how many consecutive numbers he missed

 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sweetas on October 29, 2018, 22:48
does that mean the dude in the stamping section stuffed up a few times ?
wonder how many consecutive numbers he missed

Don't think QLD transport would see that as a plausible reason!  If a number is already logged in their system, you cant get another registered...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on October 30, 2018, 01:55
Don't think QLD transport would see that as a plausible reason!  If a number is already logged in their system, you cant get another registered...

Both German or Croat bike would have to be shipped to Australia, or vice versa, before the shit hit the fan.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on October 30, 2018, 03:55
I know that there are two instances of identical engine numbers being recorded already on JLO's registry
these are triple numbers, #4052 is in Brisbane, Australia and also listed as being in Germany

and #7802 being an 81 Jota and a matching number bike is one of my old Jota's that we sold to SCRman as we owned too many 81 Jota's but same engine number is listed as being in Croatia

 :o Ouch, that conjours up a theory of making various bikes with same serial numbers for various markets ......... more costs = less tax, yet more sales and therefore profit.
I'm not going there  (bolt)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rowdypat on October 30, 2018, 09:23

does that mean the dude in the stamping section stuffed up a few times ?
wonder how many consecutive numbers he missed

Now that is something to think about.  ???
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on October 30, 2018, 11:23
re post 1183 (Piet)
you are around the wrong way Piet, in the UK it is the chassis/frame number that identifies the bike, the engine can be swapped and the numbers changed easily on the paper side, it is also acceptable to stamp a new frame with the original number if it is provided without one, but the original frame (with that number) must be destroyed, well that's the rules, in practise????

I know of one Laverda rider who built his bike into a special frame (cant remember what sort) and he used the registration paper for the new bike, not an uncommon thing in the UK, although not permissible in law. I bought his damaged frame from him and used it for various things with lots of metal cut from it, a jig for tank fabrication was one, also with empty cases and head wplus a block of wood to replace the barrels that I didn't have, as a jig for a single carb conversion and also for a huge collector bore mod, which gave loads of power but no economy.

When the MOT records became electronic, not that long ago, this owner contacted me and asked if I still had the frame remains, which I did, he told me that his bike could not be MOT'd because there was no chassis number, so I cut out a section of headstock, containing the number and posted it to him, I have no idea what he did with it, maybe he welded that bit onto his nice new chassis? but at least it proved the frame with that number had been destroyed.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverda SF on October 31, 2018, 03:27
NOTHING - Don't own a Breganzie or any Motorcycle anymore ;o)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on October 31, 2018, 06:14
I had a real shitfight getting my tipbike (the one from the leftover parts that might have gone to the tip) here in Norway when I  wanted to make it legit. The rego documents from Transport Queensland just listed engine numbers, not frame number. As the two bikes had matching numbers, but with the engines swapped, I took the racer in the van as well to the third traffic station I had to visit during the griúelling process. The inspecting group of three officers said that I was lucky to be able to show that I did possess both bikes, otherwise it would have been no go, legitimately at any rate.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on November 03, 2018, 06:44
Spent this arvo getting bike ready for the Snowy Rally.  8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on November 03, 2018, 14:32
cleaned TOG up a bit more, but this time with WD40,polish,brake cleaner etc. and while on the ramp, changed the oil, squirted 3 in 1 down the throttle wire, lubed the chain and fitted NEW OLD STOCK FACTORY speedo cable! not moved off the ramp yet, but I can tell you that this cable is a very different piece of kit to the Venhill ones that I have fitted, feels more solid, the end float/grease stop at the instrument end is a plastic flanged sheath on the inner wire and about 20mm long, (not just a crimped on brass blob) I installed the conduit (correct name for the outer) cable onto the speedo gearbox with about six inches of inner hanging out at the instrument end, then fed the (pre-greased by me) cable down the conduit to touch the drive square in the gearbox, a gentle poke and turn found the location and it pushed in nicely, next, at the instrument end, with the finger ring pushed down, I attempted to insert the drive square, and had to turn the wheel a tad, and few times to find it, once the flange's were metal to metal, I tightened the finger ring, and all felt very good, very "located" time will tell, I could'nt get an MPH reading by turning the wheel by hand so have your eggs ready.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on November 03, 2018, 14:58
Meanwhile I  fitted 3 Venhill speedo cables this week with no dramas whatsoever.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverdalothar on November 03, 2018, 20:45
Good day in the garage, 1000 SFC almost completed...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on November 03, 2018, 22:01
"Meanwhile I  fitted 3 Venhill speedo cables this week with no dramas whatsoever."

were any of them 1200TS or RGA ? and if so were they made inside the last six weeks, and have all three bikes been ridden and the instruments tested?

CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on November 04, 2018, 00:57
Meanwhile I  fitted 3 Venhill speedo cables this week with no dramas whatsoever.

 :o :o It took a week to fit 3 Venhill speedo cables... what went wrong?

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on November 04, 2018, 02:54
Clem, one was an RGA. And I have fitted TS ones before.
As I said, I have fitted literally dozens of the things in the last few years, and more before that.
How the hell do I know when they were made and why do you think that matters?
I'm not doubting your experiences, just adding balance to the discussion, as in I personally don't see a fundamental issue with Venhill cables.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on November 04, 2018, 05:35
Did a five minute job today, that took half an hour to do. Front brake master cylinder hose, from reservoir to m/c had a weird leak, so I changed it to rubber.

Reservoir was the easy end, getting the end on at m/c being a larger dia fitting had me swearing at it, pointed nose pliers, some sun, then boiling water fixed it
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 04, 2018, 05:46
I had to use Food grade clear hose, anything else would sweat brake fluid through the hose.That food grade stuff is plenty expensive. Its rated for Chemical use as well.Handy to see the bubbles when bleeding.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on November 04, 2018, 05:53
I had to use Food grade clear hose, anything else would sweat brake fluid through the hose.That food grade stuff is plenty expensive. Its rated for Chemical use as well.Handy to see the bubbles when bleeding.

Vince, I used the green fuel line, it sweated too.

I could end up doing a Zarco/MM ( :o MartyMoose) if it lets go ......
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on November 04, 2018, 15:13
"How the hell do I know when they were made and why do you think that matters?"

simply that Slater had no stock of the cable length that I needed, first he sent me one that was too long (returned fast)
and then I Had to wait for the correct length cables to be made and sent to him, and then one of them onto me, so it is a very recent batch issue that I have come across, so far the other cables from this batch, that Slaters have sent out have not been fitted to bikes and those bikes ridden, timing is why it matters.

As far as Venhill go they had two goes at correcting the issues, the first they just made a new cable with me telling them what "I thought" was the problem, the second (the day after) they made another cable (and a spare) with a speedo head and gearbox drive (not the ones from the bike) in their hands. None of them caused the instrument to work, Yes it has been checked, as has the gearbox.

I paid my money to Slaters for a part that got trashed and to Venhill, and didn't get any value out of that money, plus I spent diesel and two mornings attempting to get it right, .

I will Ride TOG very soon to test out the newly fitted factory old stock cable. get your eggs (free range) ready
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on November 04, 2018, 15:27
Sorry to hear of your issues.
I received a new Venhill from Slater on Friday and fitted it with no issues so I guess it was a new batch.
I always specify what type/length I need.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on November 04, 2018, 21:34
Got in a good ride on #1598 today, about 80 Miles , I've had two people recently ask if my Lav was a Ducati, idiots can't read.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Wilson77 on November 05, 2018, 10:46
Hi there,
new to this forum, this is my first post other than for requesting that wonderful 2019 calendar.
This is what I have on the bench right now. Just to try to attach first picture, please excuse me in it does not go right at first trial.
(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laverdaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F14257%2Fengine%7E0.jpg&hash=e0c3546f7023dddec247d824a4076f5f)
Did it work?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul H on November 05, 2018, 10:49
Good = picture. I can see it!
Bad = your work area is far too tidy. Where are all the left overs from the previous dozen jobs?  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Wilson77 on November 05, 2018, 10:56
Hi!!! Thanks for your reply. Well, I'll show a real one later on today.
Can't cheat, I see.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Wilson77 on November 05, 2018, 14:16
Well, this is more like it actually. I'll open a thread in the Technical section for sharing this500 project and
to ask for advice. Right at the start I've hit the first snug.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on November 06, 2018, 06:28
I want a press like that! Can't bring myself to load more stuff into the workshop - and hoping once my two projects are on the road I won't need another press for any conceivable time.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on November 06, 2018, 11:17
what is the transfer case out of?
GMC ?  (New Process?)

CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on November 06, 2018, 23:00
Something to bear in mind when buying a press is whether there's enough room between the sides to fit a 18" wheel.  I didn't, and the little 12 ton press I bought is about 5mm too narrow so I can't use it to press wheel bearings in/out.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on November 07, 2018, 19:32
Now that winter is here (just about) i decided to overhaul the rear caliper on the Jota,it had played up briefly a couple of times,sticking slightly then freeing up,suspecting corrosion on the pistons being the cause I had already purchased a new set and a seal kit from DucattiPaddy (many thanks to him).

Made sure to crack the caliper Allen bolts before I removed it, as they were tight!!

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010223_zpstwgrtavc.jpg&hash=0768c7b79d8be5c0c3d0e689d23fb1c4) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010223_zpstwgrtavc.jpg.html)

made the job of splitting the caliper much easier


(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010226_zpsxozobjpa.jpg&hash=901e9b366d0879c152c44855e3e3b1b4) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010226_zpsxozobjpa.jpg.html)


luckily the pistons came out easily,looks like i caught them just in time.

(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010230_zpshzddbhrg.jpg&hash=5ab2584d0e255c0fbc65160c8b7f12e5) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010230_zpshzddbhrg.jpg.html)

All done now,and working as it should be (bigthumb)







Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on November 07, 2018, 20:45
Cracking the caliper bolts before taking the caliper off is one thing to do. The other is pumping the pistons out whilst the whole system is still assembled. Can make things a lot easier.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Is2 on November 07, 2018, 21:33
What a timely post, I have the same job to do on my rear brake,  (bigthumb)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jo on November 07, 2018, 21:50
Did a beautiful autumnal day tour through Eifel, Moselle valley (crossed several times) and Hunsrueck today:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4911/45721010422_cfd7836577_c.jpg)

Trees (and calendar) shows definitely autumn, but temperatures were very mild for the season though.

Cheers
Jo
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on November 07, 2018, 22:59
Interesting you mention 'calendar' as that's a very nice fit for next year's calendar! Must have been a fab ride.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: henrywillms on November 08, 2018, 04:22
I'm jealous......lovelly picture of orange bike against autumn leaves. All the leaves here are down and wisps of snow blowing around as day time high temps  drop below freezing. 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Wilson77 on November 08, 2018, 06:22
I want a press like that! Can't bring myself to load more stuff into the workshop - and hoping once my two projects are on the road I won't need another press for any conceivable time.
Hello! Yes it´s a real good investment and I'm so glad I purchased it. Much more affordable than they used to be but still a significant expense, you know, so many toys... Acceptable quality for most jobs though I wonder whether it will provide sufficient stability as to work with pressed pin crankshafts. Will know soon. I'll check later on today if a 18" rim fits in, seems a bit tight.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Wilson77 on November 08, 2018, 06:24
what is the transfer case out of?
GMC ?  (New Process?)CLEM
Land Rover.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on November 08, 2018, 08:08
Did a beautiful autumnal day tour through Eifel, Moselle valley (crossed several times) and Hunsrueck today:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4911/45721010422_cfd7836577_c.jpg)

Trees (and calendar) shows definitely autumn, but temperatures were very mild for the season though.

Cheers
Jo

Toured around there, the Ardennes and Luxemburg on the SF2 two years ago. Beautiful region.
I didn't realise that the Hunsrück of Heimat fame was around there. That series put me very ill at ease.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jo on November 08, 2018, 14:32
I wasn’t aware that this series was broadcasted outside of Germany. I really like it!
The locations of the fictitious village "Schabbach" have been mainly in Woppenroth
and Gehlweiler. There are also Wikipedia pages about "Heimat":

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat_(Filmreihe) (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat_(Filmreihe))
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat_(film_series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat_(film_series))
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat_(mini-s%C3%A9rie (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat_(mini-s%C3%A9rie))

The area can be quite barren, in Hunsrück even more than in the Eifel. Many villages are
only half inhabited, the young generation does not find life there "cool" and migrates off
to the cities ...

Cheers
Jo
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on November 08, 2018, 16:51
Very pretty in the Eifel, long time since I"ve been there though.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: ianpm77 on November 08, 2018, 18:24
Wilson77 ....!!!!!!
Get them spanners in size order and hung up straight! and what's with the one on the right with the end missing? should be in a draw not on display.
get too it .
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TheWrongTrousers on November 08, 2018, 21:08
I wasn’t aware that this series was broadcasted outside of Germany. I really like it!
The locations of the fictitious village "Schabbach" have been mainly in Woppenroth
and Gehlweiler. There are also Wikipedia pages about "Heimat":

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat_(Filmreihe) (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat_(Filmreihe))
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat_(film_series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat_(film_series))
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat_(mini-s%C3%A9rie (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat_(mini-s%C3%A9rie))

The area can be quite barren, in Hunsrück even more than in the Eifel. Many villages are
only half inhabited, the young generation does not find life there "cool" and migrates off
to the cities ...

Cheers
Jo

Jo, this is just about my favourite series ever. Watched the first series again recently all the way through. For years i have walked about humming tunes from it since i saw it in the late eighties. True that. Such strong music. It is a masterpiece. I think the final episode was terrible, so call it a flawed masterpiece, which is fine because there is no such thing as perfection right ?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jo on November 08, 2018, 21:28
So this series was also aired in the UK? That surprises me even more! And I'm glad you liked it!

It was also a very long story, and patience is a virtue that today is no longer willing to raise ...
In this context, I am all the more pleased that you liked this series!

Cheers
Jo
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TheWrongTrousers on November 08, 2018, 21:37
its right up there with the very best Jo. Do you remember the episode when Weigand's motorbike went missing and it ended up in the midden ? ('misthaufen' in German !) and Weigand  knew that Glasisch had put it in there, but there was no proof !
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on November 09, 2018, 13:33
My mum loved it..she hails from there..apparently they speak in a certain dialect..low German which she hadnt heard for decades 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jo on November 09, 2018, 21:34
I can’t remember that it was repeated here in Germany on TV within the last 10/20 years. Maybe a hint
to get hold of the entire DVD-pack …

As far as dialects are concerned I remember a boozy night with two truck drivers from Lancashire on my
2014 IoM TT visit. In the 1st hour I was totally lost ...
 8)


Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Gerald on November 10, 2018, 09:39
Jo,

I watched the whole series on WDR ( regional TV station for that area ) a few years back.
They don't make TV series like that any more :(

Gerald
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Simon Y on November 10, 2018, 17:16
Just preparation as the couriers have delayed my engine >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: laverdas on November 10, 2018, 21:32
i would be shitting myself if a courier had his hands on my engine
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Schurminater on November 12, 2018, 17:43
Second job on the list completed........Oil change and filter screen check, all tickety boo....... and a shot worthy of next years calendar ? (bigthumb) steady yourself now!  :D


(https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi779.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy73%2FSteve-900%2Flaverda%2520Jota%2FP1010232%25202_zpsntfzcj2q.jpg&hash=0da370e5a597360f8fad72d6d9b4b3d3) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/Steve-900/media/laverda%20Jota/P1010232%202_zpsntfzcj2q.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on November 12, 2018, 19:38
Thats what it look like  :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 12, 2018, 19:42
Not specifically Laverda related but after the 4 days on the bike last weekend in lots of twisty roads that require plenty of body movement and finding that the winter liner in my crazily expensive jacket has a gusset at the top where it has been trying to slowly SAW my head off from around my neck I will try and find something less SAW like to get sewed over it. Best bike jacket in the world appears to have another design issue.Does anyone actually test ride this stuff.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Chris M. on November 12, 2018, 22:42
What brand is it?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 12, 2018, 23:09
http://www.motoport.com/product/motoport-air-mesh-jacket/
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on November 13, 2018, 00:52
You're such a delicate little thing Vince  ;D

Cut a piece out of your mum's silk scarf and sew that over the nasty rough bit.
Or you could try sandpapering your neck every day until you've built up a nice calloused area.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 13, 2018, 01:15
The former, this gusset is like 40 grit sandpaper.Its around 5mm wide and does a great job at removing skin.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on November 13, 2018, 01:25
The former, this gusset is like 40 grit sandpaper.Its around 5mm wide and does a great job at removing skin.

Hopefully you can modify it to get it right.  Suggest that you could supply feedback to manufacturer to help them improve product.  That would not be comfortable on any day, let alone a four day rally.

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 13, 2018, 01:48
Yogi it's good gear but not perfect, but this is one of LOTS of posts about this gear on this site. Its extremely controversial and the owner is sensitive to complains so not much point. I will sow something over it,done LOTS of mods since I bought it.I was 100% going Ozzie Tiger Angle but I wanted venting but before I could order Tiger Angle stopped making there custom made Gore Tex Synthetic Gear.They only do there waterproof Leather gear at BIG money and its to hot price wise and weather wise for me.
https://advrider.com/f/threads/crashed-motorport-kevlar-mesh-pant-and-stretch-jacket.1338395/
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on November 13, 2018, 02:01
I have a similar problem with my bloody expensive Rukka but it is the velcro tab on the neck band that rubs if you get it joined wrong. I pinched one of these of Her Indoors and it works a treat. Helps keep the neck warm on freezing days as well. Wear it around the neck and not on the head, obviously.

https://www.headsox.com.au/collections/motorcycle/products/headsox-promo
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 13, 2018, 02:14
Interesting, the other issue I had was I have custom ear mold ear plugs with wired sound connections, if I got the wire placement wrong when turning my head to check the blind spot the wire would pull the ear plug out.So I was experimenting and after a while found the way to route it. BTW I absolutely love my new helmet, super comfortable and quite. Bloody expensive but easily the best helmet I have ever used.
https://www.shoei-helmets.com/helmets/neotec-ii.html
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on November 13, 2018, 02:20
I have a similar problem with my bloody expensive Rukka but it is the velcro tab on the neck band that rubs if you get it joined wrong. I pinched one of these of Her Indoors and it works a treat. Helps keep the neck warm on freezing days as well. Wear it around the neck and not on the head, obviously.

https://www.headsox.com.au/collections/motorcycle/products/headsox-promo

Davo, that is starting to look a little bit Hipster mate - don't let Legs find out about that, or he'll be organising a posse to head West and bring you back to Adelaide.

Are you 100% sure that you have never worn it on your head with a muscle T shirt?  Jerry Garcia meets Axel Rose..

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on November 13, 2018, 02:30
Davo, that is starting to look a little bit Hipster mate - don't let Legs find out about that, or he'll be organising a posse to head West and bring you back to Adelaide.

Are you 100% sure that you have never worn it on your head with a muscle T shirt?  Jerry Garcia meets Axel Rose..

Yogi

OK. Fair cop  :laugh:

They are available in other colours. I just pinched what was available for free to me.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on November 13, 2018, 02:43
We call them neck warmers. Often desirable to keep warm when riding around in Tassie winter weather. I have a couple but you wouldn't want to wear one in hot weather.

Maybe you could avoid neck chafe by just tying a handkerchief or bandana around your neck. Just like blokes wear in cowboy movies. In that case, a Colt Peacemaker revolver would be the appropriate accessory to go with it.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on November 13, 2018, 03:06
Why not go the whole hog and wear a silk flying scarf just like Snoopy, would go well with the Halcyon goggles ;D.
By the way; all hipsters must hang ;).
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on November 13, 2018, 03:10
Why not go the whole hog and wear a silk flying scarf just like Snoopy, would go well with the Halcyon goggles ;D.
By the way; all hipsters must hang ;).

If only we can get the hipsters to wear longer scarves like Isadora Duncan tried whilst driving, we may have a natural solution..

Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 13, 2018, 03:13
The easiest fix is a ribbon of some kind of softer material, silk would be great capped over the neck section. This jacket has 2 inners, a wind and waterproof one, the mesh outer shell and the winter one. The later is the only one without a soft smooth facing.Maybe they thought in winter you would have something else between it and your skin.Its a good jacket but perfection and a 4 season ability still hasn't happened.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 13, 2018, 03:19
Long scarfs just dont kill onganoos, one almost killed my Pantah. The second owner liked to wear them in cold weather and he had one in a half opened backpack, it trailed down into the chain and got caught and cracked the engine case around the countershaft sprocket. He got it welded and it lasted 15 years till it recently gave out on a club ride with me on it. The repair required a replacement second hand set of cases at again eye watering money.Avoid long scarfs unless you have a death wish or plenty of cash.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on November 13, 2018, 05:24
I cut the top off a beanie, works great
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on November 13, 2018, 10:00
We call them neck warmers. Often desirable to keep warm when riding around in Tassie winter weather. I have a couple but you wouldn't want to wear one in hot weather.

Maybe you could avoid neck chafe by just tying a handkerchief or bandana around your neck. Just like blokes wear in cowboy movies. In that case, a Colt Peacemaker revolver would be the appropriate accessory to go with it.

They are not actually too bad in hot weather. Mind you, in summer I usually wear my Ricondi leather if it is temperate or the Cortech which has full air flow if it is the usual Perth stinking fucking hot.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Smiddy on November 13, 2018, 10:30
You could try one of these :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: GPR1200 on November 13, 2018, 11:38
Percy, you look like a bird that has swallowed a plate!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on November 13, 2018, 16:30
have taken both girls out for ride and topped them up with four star at 1.99 a litre  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 13, 2018, 21:30
WOW, I just received an email from asking what they could do to fix my jacket issue.Either someone here linked to them the thread or there is a Laverda fan who works there, thats some customer service. I probably pumped this issue up a bit as they do come close to being the best option for bike gear I have found.I asked of a 1st class return air fare to Cal to fix it but I dont expect that will happen. Bloody internet strikes again
 
http://www.motoport.com/product/motoport-air-mesh-jacket/
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on November 14, 2018, 03:16
Blimey, I just broke a 5mm Allen key trying to remove a seized bolt. That's never happened to me before. It snapped at the 90° bend.

I would've thought the hex socket in the bolt head would strip before the key broke, which wouldn't have bothered me as I have plenty of spare bolts. It wasn't a cheap nasty key either. It was one from my "good" expensive set. Bugger!

It was a stupid mongrel bloody bolt anyway. M8 thread with a pissy little 5mm hex socket. Gawd knows where it came from. Eventually got it out by cutting a slot in the head and using an impact screwdriver. I should've done that in the first place.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on November 14, 2018, 05:18
Did you put it in the lathe to cut the slot?  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on November 14, 2018, 05:44
Did you put it in the lathe to cut the slot?  ;D

 :o That's worth a thread of it's own!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Ventodue on November 14, 2018, 08:52
Bloody expensive but easily the best helmet I have ever used.
https://www.shoei-helmets.com/helmets/neotec-ii.html

What's it like for wind noise, Vince?  I should change my Schuberth some time soon, and a Shoei is a possibility.  But I'm kinda used to the excellent noise damping of the Schuberth ...

Craig
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 14, 2018, 10:09
I haven't tried the Schuberth to directly compare but it way more comfortable than the previous XR1100 Shoie, I also use ear plugs.Its a bit heavier but I have zero complains and I love to nit pick.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Diablo Loco on November 14, 2018, 10:40
Gave it a wash. Not really.  Too lazy.  Gave it to a local West Oz mob, cleanride.com.au.  Nice job.  Shiny.

(https://i.imgur.com/9SsgNQK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mZ2zLTv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KzlapTf.jpg)


Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Diablo Loco on November 14, 2018, 11:09
What's it like for wind noise, Vince?  I should change my Schuberth some time soon, and a Shoei is a possibility.  But I'm kinda used to the excellent noise damping of the Schuberth ...

Craig

I picked up a neotech II recently and rode across OZ and back with it in Sept.  It's a good flip face. It is designed to integrate a Sena bluetooth kit. 

Nice quality speakers fit into recesses in the earpieces. The controller fits in a recess in the helmet.  Under a waterproof rubberised panel on the LHS are the buttons to run the thing.

Nothing hanging off the helmet and you don't even know it has a Sena kit.

I'm not into noise when I'm riding but the phone was useful. If listening to music it's a nice quality sound but I doubt much good over 100-120 k's.
 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on November 14, 2018, 15:25
What's it like for wind noise, Vince?  I should change my Schuberth some time soon, and a Shoei is a possibility.  But I'm kinda used to the excellent noise damping of the Schuberth ...

Craig

My Neotech has way more wind noise than the Multitech I had before it. I tried wearing earplugs but hate hearing nothing more than the wind noise.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on November 14, 2018, 22:37
My Neotech has way more wind noise than the Multitech I had before it. I tried wearing earplugs but hate hearing nothing more than the wind noise.

I reckon the white noise of 100s of 1000s of km from wind in the ears moto riding has damaged my hearing more than anything else I've subjected my poor ears to, including decades of playing drums in loud rock bands! Once you wear earplugs, then try riding at speed without them, like forgetting to put them back in after a fuel stop, you realise just how loud tiring it is. Takes some getting used to. I found my speed perception coming into corners was somehow different.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on November 14, 2018, 22:49
I reckon the white noise of 100s of 1000s of km from wind in the ears moto riding has damaged my hearing more than anything else I've subjected my poor ears to.

For me most hearing damage was caused by being involved in drag racing for many years, most specifically listening to the Top Fuel engines being warmed up in the pits
Never heard a better sounding engine ever including our own 180 degree triple race engines
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 14, 2018, 23:44
The first time I heard, or more correctly felt that was in 1976. I was on my first big ride and was staying on The Gold Coast and a couple of times the promoters of the Surfs Paradise Drag way started up a couple of funny cars in a petrol station right on The Strip.That created some crowd.So I went to a meet.You could feel the throb of the engines in your chest at full noise,the only couple of things comparable were the low fast passes of Fighter Jets at The Bicentennial Air show and front row at a Deep Purple concert.I like LOUD.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on November 15, 2018, 01:28
The first time I heard, or more correctly felt that was in 1976. I was on my first big ride and was staying on The Gold Coast and a couple of times the promoters of the Surfs Paradise Drag way started up a couple of funny cars in a petrol station right on The Strip.

Fuel car from 1976 when Surfers Dragstrip was operating would have been lucky to make 2,000 horsepower back then
go to a meeting now Vince, Top Fuel cars easily make 10,000 horsepower now, unbelievable spectacle to experience

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on November 15, 2018, 01:39
It's incredible that they can get that sort of power out of a V8 engine.  I noticed in the video that sweetas posted of the 11,000HP engine being built (in the "Cool videos" thread) that it didn't appear to have any cooling system. So I don't reckon those top fuel engines can run for more than a few seconds at a time.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on November 15, 2018, 01:47
that is correct Cam, fuel engines as do a lot of the big horsepower drag engines are solid alloy so no water jackets
but the Nitro load itself helps to cool the engine as they use around 98% of the combustion chamber for fuel volume, only 2% is left for oxygen
though the Nitro carries its own oxygen molecules so it does not need much extra air

did you know that the flames being emitted from the exhaust pipes is actually the hydrogen in the atmosphere igniting due to the extreme heat being generated

 

 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on November 15, 2018, 02:27
Saw a vid of the Sainty bunch building engines,it starts with a huge solid block of bilit and gets whittled down from that. Incredibly strong.
https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/stan-sainty-drag-racing-legend-flashback
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on November 15, 2018, 03:01
I've never been to a drag race meeting. Maybe I should put it on the bucket list.
Some interesting stats here http://www.sccoia.org/articles/top-fuel-dragster-fast-facts/ (http://www.sccoia.org/articles/top-fuel-dragster-fast-facts/)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on November 15, 2018, 05:14
There ain’t nothing beats the sound or horsepower of a Triple engined Breganze 750 Drag Bike on Nitro.  99% fuel combustion as well.  Talk about leaving the latest Jap bikes for dead down the quarter... and the wheelstands..
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on November 15, 2018, 12:15
It all makes sense now unce Ron
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tyrone on November 15, 2018, 22:37
 :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on November 15, 2018, 22:37
I've always wanted to go to at least one big-time drag meeting with top0fuellers. Have checked out a few vids on Youie and they used to show US drag racing on one of the TV channels late at night (Ch ONE?). The guys dialling in the fuel mixture on the start line used to blow me out. And the slowmo's of the first 100m when the blower would eat itself (kaboom!), belts and tyres twisting totally out of shape. Pretty incredible stuff. And when they go off course and crash, it's not at all pretty. The drivers are exposed to considerable risk.

The supercharger on that ARMY build looks like it would crank about 20 bar!! Who needs 4-valve heads?! Pretty handy conrods and pistones to withstand that sort of horsepower. They probably have a max possible time at full noise without self-destructing about 1.2 sec longer than their expected time for the quarter!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on November 16, 2018, 07:42
It's incredible that they can get that sort of power out of a V8 engine.  I noticed in the video that sweetas posted of the 11,000HP engine being built (in the "Cool videos" thread) that it didn't appear to have any cooling system. So I don't reckon those top fuel engines can run for more than a few seconds at a time.

Arrrhhh that's nuthin. The Chinese have just built an engine that develops 100 million degrees C. Only runs for about 10 seconds but.

My ears are stuffed from using my 30-40 and 25-06 without ear protection.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on November 16, 2018, 07:50
Gave it a wash. Not really.  Too lazy.  Gave it to a local West Oz mob, cleanride.com.au.  Nice job.  Shiny.


Will we see it on the road this weekend. Should be plenty of bugs out in them thar hills  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Diablo Loco on November 16, 2018, 08:39
Will we see it on the road this weekend. Should be plenty of bugs out in them thar hills  :laugh:

Well that was the intention...  :o

If you are out on the weekend, I'm in on the Griso.  As of 10 minutes ago the money is in the bank and the SFC1000 is going back to owner 3.

It is too nice a bike to be thrashing it on our goat tracks and bugsplat. 

I'm hooked though and looking forward to a 1200 built to face the roads, roos, feral pigs, locusts and anything else thrown at it here.

(https://i.imgur.com/GvsmNY1.jpg)

   


 
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on November 16, 2018, 09:37
Engine back in the bike after a holiday up north, must have enjoyed the fresh air and company up there cause its certainly looking much much happier.. :)
Thanks Red.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on November 16, 2018, 09:52
Beautiful!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jo on November 16, 2018, 10:10
Yesterday - same place where my last autumn picture (on page 82) was taken:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4834/44992321095_e511bfc824_c.jpg)

It was cold (3° C) and in the higher altitudes (there are many of those), there was a tough high fog.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on November 24, 2018, 09:56
Got the paintwork for 007 back yesterday. Sweet.
Not cheap and not quick but top, top quality.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4888/32154321568_619b28ae34_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QZniyC)2018-11-23 15.48.22 (https://flic.kr/p/QZniyC) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

And with everything fitted.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4886/45301895134_4dc8d867a1_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2c2b48u)2018-11-24 10.54.27 (https://flic.kr/p/2c2b48u) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: SimonR501 on November 24, 2018, 17:23
You could get lost in the depth of that paint! Looks great!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: henrywillms on November 26, 2018, 00:15
In Canada environmental regulations mean mostly water born paints are used. Is that true in the UK as well? Either way a geat paint job you have there.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: wdietz186 on November 26, 2018, 03:55
I think pretty much all the modern paints these days are water based.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on November 26, 2018, 07:30
I think pretty much all the modern paints these days are water based.

Not yet in Oz.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on November 26, 2018, 08:09
Obligatory in the EU.
It's ok, they don't wash off.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on November 26, 2018, 08:25
May be obligatory, but I know some who still use solvent-based in Europe.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on November 26, 2018, 11:31
not obligatory in UK,
water based is the most supplied but two pack and cellulose, synthetic and two pack, can still be bought if that is what you want, but supply and demand means that cellulose is VERY expensive as is synthetic, and in limited supply and two pack a sort of half way between Cell/synth  and water based.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on November 28, 2018, 18:35
Yesterday was like Christmas. In the mail; New SFC reproduced seat from Steph, and new alternator and regulator. 8)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on November 30, 2018, 05:30
Spent last night mounting and wiring up RR, some of today modifiying new alternator body to mount to the front of the crankcase. Just awaiting another bit in the mail to suit.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on December 18, 2018, 07:08
Took advantage of work winding down and headed out to West Head, great ride, not a soul around. West Head was looking a bit parched though, so sad to see it after a burn
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: FNQ1000 on December 18, 2018, 13:41
The 3C looks a treat TC.

Plenty of effort and elbow grease gone into it.

Cheers
Jason
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on December 18, 2018, 20:43
Well done Tom your 3C is a beautiful example and if anyone can remember this was a 3C that was for sale in Karlgoolie some time back and I can assure you it was nothing like it is now.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on December 18, 2018, 20:54
Opened up this can of wrigglies today.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4817/44551786670_c09f885761_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aSTy1W)2018-12-18 12.49.03 (https://flic.kr/p/2aSTy1W) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4862/31429562827_74eb177b00_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PTjJ3g)2018-12-18 12.56.01 (https://flic.kr/p/PTjJ3g) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4830/44551787710_0128e14bd8_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aSTyjS)2018-12-18 13.01.19 (https://flic.kr/p/2aSTyjS) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4810/31429563287_c196a80bbd_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PTjJbc)2018-12-18 13.01.14 (https://flic.kr/p/PTjJbc) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: walkermarra on December 18, 2018, 21:02
WHAT THE BLOODY HELL HAPPENED IN THERE !
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jo on December 18, 2018, 21:06
 ... that's what I thought too!!
Bloody mess ...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on December 18, 2018, 21:07
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4837/46303798352_64b688797d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dxH53U)2018-12-16 10.29.30 (https://flic.kr/p/2dxH53U) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4881/46368870191_af67e2a705_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dDszDa)2018-12-18 12.55.52 (https://flic.kr/p/2dDszDa) by Grant Duguid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137136978@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jo on December 18, 2018, 21:08
Took advantage of work winding down and headed out to West Head, great ride, not a soul around. West Head was looking a bit parched though, so sad to see it after a burn

Hi Tom,
will you take your beauty to Europe next year ..?

Cheers
Jo
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: breganzane on December 18, 2018, 21:53
Opened up this can of wrigglies today.

Ouch, that's a mess!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 18, 2018, 22:00
 :o Well, that explains why it wouldn't go into first gear.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on December 18, 2018, 22:24
Is there a prize for the most damage caused in a single episode inside a triple?!! That one would have to be hard to beat!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on December 18, 2018, 22:33
Only visible external sign was the hole next to the dip stick, but when I removed the oil strainer and a gudgeon pin literally fell out
I knew the fuck up fairies had visited.
Took the head off and no 1 cylinder was completely empty, piston had turned to confetti and spread itself around the engine.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on December 19, 2018, 07:43
Is there anything usable left of that motor?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on December 19, 2018, 07:48
Polished casings and maybe cams.
The duplex chain still looks in perfect condition, but will be retired too.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on December 19, 2018, 07:59
Conrods? Broken and the cause of this?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on December 19, 2018, 08:41
Broken rod, head off exhaust valve. One caused the other, my money is on the rod.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on December 19, 2018, 09:28
Broken rod, head off exhaust valve. One caused the other, my money is on the rod.

Someone left the fuel taps on? Hydraulic lock, bent rod, and kaboom sometime down the track?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on December 19, 2018, 09:29
Unlikely.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jo on December 19, 2018, 09:41
I would guess that this happened at higher revs ...
 :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: a14rgs on December 19, 2018, 10:20
I would guess that this happened at higher revs ...
 :o
Not according to the owner/pilot - accelerating gently from 60 to 70mph (110kph) when it went onto two cylinders - but still ran....!! :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on December 19, 2018, 10:38
I would guess that this happened at higher revs ...
 :o

majority of conrod failures seem to be at low to mid range revs
though I do have one Series 2 engine here never to be repaired that destroyed itself at 8,500 rpm, has holes in the engine cases at every point of the compass  :o


Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on December 19, 2018, 12:17
Not according to the owner/pilot - accelerating gently from 60 to 70mph (110kph) when it went onto two cylinders - but still ran....!! :o

And THAT is the problem.  Instead of shutting down, he allowed the bits to fly around and destroy everything they could reach.

One second of running at 3000rpm means another 50 chances of hitting something with the remains of the conrod.  Coasting with the engine running for 500-odd yards from 60mph means another 30 secs of destruction... wrong in every which way you look at it.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Simon Y on December 19, 2018, 14:31
I know the 1000 / Jota is loud and not to detract from the enjoyent of riding of course but the instant you hear a loud bang - hit the kill switch and pull the clutch in.
Hopefully not when overtaking!!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: nick7 on December 19, 2018, 16:26
This has fuelled my paranoia...Jota going to Keith as arranged some time ago for new rods commissioned by him.Not inexpensive but nor is a written off engine.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on December 19, 2018, 16:47
It seems to be the general consensus now that all triples are best with replacement rods. The reason for the failures is a mystery, as bikes from all sorts of backgrounds have had failures, not necessarily "thrashed" bikes. I know of triples from Oz that did huge miles ridden very hard without problems.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: VanguardontheLav on December 19, 2018, 19:15
And THAT is the problem.  Instead of shutting down, he allowed the bits to fly around and destroy everything they could reach.

One second of running at 3000rpm means another 50 chances of hitting something with the remains of the conrod.  Coasting with the engine running for 500-odd yards from 60mph means another 30 secs of destruction... wrong in every which way you look at it.

piet

This is mine (as those on the FB group know already) and yes, I did indeed continue to run it. I had no idea this had happened, of course (or I wouldn't have) but literally, she just appeared to go onto two cylinders. Still running when I parked up on the hard shoulder, I switched off, dismounted to see if I could see what I imagined was a loose plug lead or similar, to see the smallish hole in the crankcase, at which point I thought "oh bother"...  :o

I bow down to those who criticise, and of course I am heartily sorry - as is my bank balance - but I'm not sure what else I could really have done in the circumstances. Does everyone immediately kill their engine when the engine note changes in the outside lane of a very busy motorway and the engine feels like it's running on two?  ::)

--
Dick
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 19, 2018, 19:47
I’m with Dick, I holed the centre piston one day. I too presumed it was a plug/lead. Ran it for a while trying to find the fault. Luckily it didn’t shit itself completely.

None the less Dick, you’ve got a big bloody mess in there.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: a14rgs on December 19, 2018, 20:29
Hi Dick, I have genuine heartfealt sympathy for your predicament, it could well have been me!
My 150000+km RGS doesn't get thrashed, but it does get used as Massimo intended once it's warmed up ;D
There's no doubt that your motor is totalled, sadly, so I'm sure that the plans that you and Grant have in place will soon see it back in action.
It'll be good to understand the root of the problem though..... :-X
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 19, 2018, 21:14
Heartfelt, I would have probably done the same Dick on the motorway like that, I see Alan has some cases on Ebay if numbers don t bother you.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on December 19, 2018, 21:18
Solution in hand, all will become clear in the new year.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on December 19, 2018, 21:58
The last time one of my pistons let go all I noticed was MASSIVE smoke out the back via the rear vision mirror and I couldn't believe it, slowed in 2nd gear for a bend and opened to taps while checking I wasn't holding anyone up. The time before it cut onto 2 cylinders and someone suggested in humor that a bit of the piston had hit the plug tip and that's exactly what had happened.That rebuild had me going Carrillo rods as I was sick of blowing up engines.  Its a horror I wouldn't wish on anyone, well maybe 1 or 2 fuckwits from my past.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 19, 2018, 22:26
Solution in hand, all will become clear in the new year.

Good to hear.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on December 19, 2018, 23:20
I'm not sure if we ever learn what causes conrods to snap or valve heads to drop off and there seems no rhyme or reason to it either, my 81 Jota 7604 has a sister bike 7605? that had a catastrophic engine failure with complete destruction of the engine, yet my bike is heading for 300,000 kms with years of thrashing on her still original crankshaft.
 When I see these horror stories it is pushing me to take that crankshaft rebuild insurance policy earlier rather than later as I couldn't take it if she blew up!!!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on December 20, 2018, 01:06
You really haven’t lived till you’ve blown up a laverda or 2
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: lawrence on December 20, 2018, 01:23
It seems to me that shops that are rebuilding cranks are in a position to examine rods that are presumably still in serviceable condition.  Maybe manufacturing defects can be detected that cause these mysterious failures.  I find particularly unsettling the reports of con rods failing at moderate engine speeds.  My Mirage has always been well cared for, never thrashed really, yet the engine could come apart without warning? not good at all for peace of mind.  It would be nice to be able to inspect the bits in order to get an idea if all is well or not, rather than merely waiting for the Big Bang. If that happens it could well be the end of the line for the machine.  Not a lot of engine cases offered up for sale that I see.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 20, 2018, 01:39
It seems to me that shops that are rebuilding cranks are in a position to examine rods that are presumably still in serviceable condition.  Maybe manufacturing defects can be detected that cause these mysterious failures.

I don't think I'd like to put myself in a position where I said, "I've inspected your rods, and they are OK, so I'll put it back together and you won't break a rod this lifetime"

If the rods are out for examination, you may as well throw them in the bin, and replace them with something that is proven to work.
I seem to recall that Red has a drum full of original rods that he has swapped out for Carrillo rods.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on December 20, 2018, 02:37
You really haven’t lived till you’ve blown up a laverda or 2


Good quote..
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 20, 2018, 06:12
Been playing Laverda most of the day. All I need is a belt, comes tomorrow, and I'm good to go.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on December 20, 2018, 06:20
Been playing Laverda most of the day. All I need is a belt, comes tomorrow, and I'm good to go.

I'm sure you could find someone local to come around and give you a belt today.  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on December 20, 2018, 08:20
It seems to me that shops that are rebuilding cranks are in a position to examine rods that are presumably still in serviceable condition.  Maybe manufacturing defects can be detected that cause these mysterious failures. 

Nothing mysterious.
Those rods are pushing the half century, some of them even in regular use.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: VanguardontheLav on December 20, 2018, 08:38
Thanks for all the sympathy guys - plan is in action, but Christmas gets in the way.


Dick
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on December 20, 2018, 10:11
That being said, isn't the rod problem on triples more of a 120° thing?

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on December 20, 2018, 10:26
That being said, isn't the rod problem on triples more of a 120° thing?
Paul

no, seen just as many broken conrods on the 180's as the 120's, also seen broken rods on 750's and 500's
never seen a broken conrod on a 75cc or 100cc engine though

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Simon Y on December 20, 2018, 11:42
I have not heard stories that Laverda's are more prone the con-rod failure than any other marques.
If this continues we might develop a wide paranoia about riding our bikes?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul Marx on December 20, 2018, 13:05
no, seen just as many broken conrods on the 180's as the 120's, also seen broken rods on 750's and 500's
never seen a broken conrod on a 75cc or 100cc engine though

 :laugh:

It's just that the only ones I've seen in the flesh were 120s.

Paul
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: rpm-bert on December 20, 2018, 14:52
 "Big Bang" theory isit  !! :o :o 8) ;D lol...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: John lord on December 20, 2018, 15:29
Better sell up them  Laverdas ,while the price is high ,and ya conrods intact 😅😅💰💰💰💰
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Laverdalothar on December 20, 2018, 15:39
sounds like a plan...  ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: laverdas on December 20, 2018, 18:04
Or perhaps somebody likes doing conrods  (bang) (bang)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Beucars on December 20, 2018, 20:09
I've seen non Laverda engines being dismanteled and while removing the cylinders the piston(s) drop out of the liner resulting in the middle of the conrod hitting the border of the underblock. When these conrods later snapped it was in this same position.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: laverdas on December 20, 2018, 21:28
That's why we were always told to tie two pieces of wood either side of the rods, the old guys knew a thing or two
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on December 20, 2018, 22:56
Same for the Bonnie a mate rebuilt, any nick or damage on the rod from bumping the case mouth becomes a stress raiser
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: bevelman on December 21, 2018, 02:56
You really haven’t lived till you’ve blown up a laverda or 2




indeed
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: motoddrob on December 21, 2018, 04:09
Haven't blown any up but have worn out 2. Though I did bend a valve on a freshly rebuilt motor when it nipped up and kissed the piston resulting in a fucked cam lobe.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on December 21, 2018, 04:10
You really haven’t lived till you’ve blown up a laverda or 2

Seems I haven't really lived then.

Only bike I've ever blown up big time (not just something minor like seizing, or holing a piston) was an old BSA A10 (650) that threw a rod out through the front of the crankcase. It wasn't my bike. I'd done a swap with a mate but only got about half a mile before the rod let go. The owner wasn't happy when I handed it back to him, but it was his own fault for not checking the oil level. There was almost no bloody oil in the thing.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on December 21, 2018, 07:25
Does throwing a rod on a loan bike while your Laverda was in for a service count? If not I haven't lived either. Only got a couple of K and was sitting on 60kmh going through a shopping precinct sudden clattter clatter and no power. Was a GSXR 1000 which only added to my disdain for the marque.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 21, 2018, 08:22
Does throwing a rod on a loan bike while your Laverda was in for a service count? If not I haven't lived either. Only got a couple of K and was sitting on 60kmh going through a shopping precinct sudden clattter clatter and no power. Was a GSXR 1000 which only added to my disdain for the marque.

For those in the know, GSXR’s hate too much oil in their bellies, better to run below the recommended than at, or above, otherwise they can implode. They don’t have one way crankcase venting, just out of the cam cover. Too much oil and kaboom.

Whoever, oiled up your loaner was a dick.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Simon Y on December 21, 2018, 09:37
My late father was not just casual about maintenance it was a word that did not exist in his vocabulary.
I took his Mk1 Lemon for a ride and the pistons picked up due to lack of oil.
Changing the oil at 100 miles as I have just done would wasteful to him.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on December 21, 2018, 10:23
You mean 1000?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Simon Y on December 21, 2018, 11:24
I did mean 100 miles, but can understand your questioning the figure as I should have said following engine rebuild.
The oil was dark and should have removed all the odd bits and pieces.
Otherwise 1000 miles is indeed the figure.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on December 22, 2018, 00:08
My Briggs and Stratton lawn mower has never had an oil change since I found it on the tip 20 years ago (someone had chucked it out because the throttle cable had broken). It has a thick black substance in it that resembles tar. When the level gets low I top it up with old oil that I've drained out of a bike. I reckon if I put fresh oil in it the old thing would die of shock. The bloody thing just keeps going. Best mower I've ever got for nothing  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on December 22, 2018, 00:25
My Briggs and Stratton lawn mower has never had an oil change since I found it on the tip 20 years ago (someone had chucked it out because the throttle cable had broken). It has a thick black substance in it that resembles tar. When the level gets low I top it up with old oil that I've drained out of a bike. I reckon if I put fresh oil in it the old thing would die of shock. The bloody thing just keeps going. Best mower I've ever got for nothing  :D
Mine suffered much the same sort of abuse, I decided that after 5 years I should change the oil, that was it’s last mow...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on December 22, 2018, 02:28
Obviously not a Chinese made Briggs and Stratton. I'v had the (dis)pleasure of having 2 of those bastards in a Husqvarna ride on mower. Both of them threw conrods, the first engine fortunately was still under warranty and was at 1/4 throttle keeping the battery charged while I was using a sprayer. The second was while mowing. The new, well now 5 year old, mower has a v-twin Honda.

I was telling my mate about my experience with Chinese B&S motors after he had picked up a cheap 2nd hand ride on. Obviously cursed him as it threw its conrod 2 weeks later  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on December 22, 2018, 02:52
My B & S blew up cos I lent it to a neighbour without having checked the oil level for a while. I never change the oil - just keep putting B & S genuine oil in it - maybe I should be using cheap stuff!! My mower man loves my beast - the BIG 5(?) horse! 205cc of unadulterated grunt!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on December 22, 2018, 05:20
just keep putting B & S genuine oil in it

Blimey, I never knew there was such a thing as B&S oil.

I sometimes chuck a bit of Castrol R30 in the fuel tank if there's a bottle within arm's reach when I fuel it up. It might be useful as UCL, but I do it mainly because I like the smell. It takes me back to childhood memories of watching the bike racing at Longford with my dad. Manx Nortons and AJS 7Rs thundering around the track. One time Geoff Duke was there screaming around on a 4 cylinder Gilera. Takes my mind off mowing fucking grass anyway. I hate mowing.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 22, 2018, 06:57
Fitted a volt meter. Rewired the back section of bike and finished off Steph’s seat.
Washed it, and took it for a spin, that was the best part. ;D

All ready for a trip to Sydney now. She is going great and at one stage saw the tiny alternator chuffing out 13.3volts.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on December 22, 2018, 08:29

All ready for a trip to Sydney now.
Hope you got a good tarp
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on December 22, 2018, 19:30
My Briggs and Stratton lawn mower has never had an oil change since I found it on the tip 20 years ago (someone had chucked it out because the throttle cable had broken). It has a thick black substance in it that resembles tar. When the level gets low I top it up with old oil that I've drained out of a bike. I reckon if I put fresh oil in it the old thing would die of shock. The bloody thing just keeps going. Best mower I've ever got for nothing  :D

Changed mine for the first time in 18 years - had to replace the battery a couple of years back and i have smoked a number of belts - bits keep falling off but she keep going -  B + S engine from the States - mower made in Italy badged as a Massey Ferguson naturally - on long term errrrrrrrrrr loan   
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: MotoJouni on December 22, 2018, 19:59
Is this how you also maintenance your Laverda motorcycles?

I have a couple of B&S engines, one on a generator and one on a lawn mower on my summer cottage.
They have worked very well far over 30 years, grandpa bought them.
Some old wrecks also, I think some of them have B&S engines. I change the oil after every couple of years (not for the wrecks of course), even earlier if it doesn't look good. It's always fresh oil of suitable grade.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on December 23, 2018, 02:26
My B&S doesn't even have a dipstick - a little plastic screw plug that says oil fill - so I just pour in the exclusive B&S oil until it sorta looks full. Seems to work - hasn't blown up since the big rebuild 5 years ago, but I have zero idea what colour the oil is! There's a drain bolt but I've never removed it  :P

I'm with you, Cam. I effing hate mowing - about to do just that after only 2 weeks - too much sun and rain in Melbourne!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on December 23, 2018, 06:22
Why I hate mowing:

When I was a kid - up until the age of about 18, I lived with my parents. One of the chores I had to do to earn my keep was mow the grass. But there was 3 fucking acres of it and we didn't have a ride-on mower. All we had was an ancient little Scott Bonnar petrol mower with about a 14" cut. It was so old that it pre-dated the invention of the retracting pull starter. It just had a pulley on top with a notch in it that you had to wind a knotted rope around. The bloody thing was knackered from all the acreage of mowing it had to do so it took a lot of winding up the string and pulling to coax the poor thing into life.

It was like painting the Sydney Harbour bridge - a never-ending task. My brother Tim and I would each have to do a couple of hours mowing every weekend to stay ahead of the growth in summer. It would take 2 or 3 weeks to cover the whole area, by which time you had to go back to the bit you did a few weeks ago and start again. It was a real damper on teenage social life when you wanted to go the beach or out partying with your mates, but your parents say "after you've done a couple of hours mowing"  :(
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Grant on December 23, 2018, 07:57
What did you do to or for or with your B&S mower today?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on December 23, 2018, 10:26
What did you do to or for or with your B&S mower today?

Well, not today, a couple of years ago...

I was well and truely fed up with the bastard and threw it on a scrap mongers truck.  Bought a professional quality Honda, never looked back.  Actually enjoy mowing now. ;D ;D

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on December 23, 2018, 11:00
What did you do to or for or with your B&S mower today?

Moved it from the tent in the garden back into my shed as the bikes are moving into their new home  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 23, 2018, 11:04
Envy! Good job Adam.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Wilson77 on December 23, 2018, 11:12
Well if someone does not stop this Briggs and Stratton frenzy (by the way, I used to have one I now regret to have given away back then) maybe Santa won't bring us any Laverda bits this Christmas. Here I go. As we shared in a previous post https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,98532.msg415409.html#msg415409 (https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,98532.msg415409.html#msg415409) a good friend and I are out to reboot some of his several Alpino 500s. He dismantled pretty much of them years ago and now we are faced with an assortment of boxes full of parts in a varying shape. Worst of all may be, unsurprisingly, camshafts (hope the attachement can be seen at first trial).
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Wilson77 on December 23, 2018, 11:13
No it can´t  :-[ Give me a second... Got it!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: alan james on December 23, 2018, 12:02
Got a B&S 20hp V twin engine in my Countax tractor mower, had it for 12years never changed the oil as I don't know where the drain plug is. Gave it a treat six years ago and changed the oil filter as that's easy.
Top it up now and again with any old used black sump oil I can find. Never lets me down engine wise but it does like the odd drive belt or two.
Wish my old Laverda clunkers could stand such abuse.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on December 23, 2018, 12:07
yup I use to use a rotary push B&S for 20 years, pull cord broke once, never put oil in it, and owner sadly died at 92 leaving it still going strong,
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Wilson77 on December 23, 2018, 12:09
We have several pairs of camshafts, all of them damaged, quite possibly this being a chief reason for putting the bikes out of order back in the day. We have mostly worn outer bearing journals, a common failure in these bikes. Also worn cam lobes and ramps. To make things even worse rust has made appearance during prolonged and inadequate storage. Repair work seems to have been done on some cam tips. Also the journals of one of the shaftshave been sleeved at some given point. Pretty much useless.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Wilson77 on December 23, 2018, 12:10
Well I must admit that B&S mowers are at the time being much more attractive than my crappy cams  ???  ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Wilson77 on December 23, 2018, 12:19
Happily, a couple of weeks ago another box popped up with a healthy pair of cams, these seem to belong to the engine we are rebuilding first, which seems to have barely  a few miles on it. However, even in this one the exhaust camshaft has been reground to undersize and its bearings replaced by custom made brass items. Note wrong placement of camshafts for the pictures.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: sfcpiet on December 23, 2018, 12:58
Wilson,

Check whichever heads you intend using for flatness, especially the exhaust side tends to collapse on the upper deck around the central cam bearing.   This rears its ugly little head when you get to the stage of torquing down the head and the only the exhaust cam binds...

I've found the original alloy cam bearing sleeves to be the most reliable of all.  Needle bearings are loud and seem to chew cam journals for breakfast, possibly through misalignment and/or incorrect clearance (the needle bushes are meant to pressed into a housing, not to be clamped down).  Maintaining generous valve clearances is a must, as valve seat recession can be a problem, causing lobe and bucket destruction.  Get your lube system up to scratch, use good quality 20W50 motor oil and cam woes are a thing of the past.  Wifeys' 500 has been running strong for almost 30 years now.  A bump in compression and larger F500/OR600 valves makes it easy for her to keep up with my 750.

piet
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Wilson77 on December 23, 2018, 13:42
Thanks for the info sfcpiet! Any advice is of great help at this stage. We plan on fitting the bigger race oil pump plus a Zané oil coolerbfrom Wolfgang Haerter. Other than that we'll keep this engine as standard and if everything goes wright may be the second one will be  uprated a bit. Hope tho find loads of input around here!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on December 24, 2018, 07:20
Went to the shocker guy today, had leaking shocker fixed and a pair of lighter springs fitted. Put them back on bike  :o it isn’t imitating a Hardtail anymore.

On Marty’s recommendation, dropped some oil volume from the front forks  :o it’s not imitating a ..... a....... a...... rock at the front.

Polished it up and she’s good to spin up a few klms with Brett and Levo after Christmas.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on December 24, 2018, 07:41
Chris, cable tie on the fork and wiggle the shock bump stop down the shaft if you can, it should stop where the travel ends. It should be using all the travel on huge hits, find a bumpy bit of road and go hard on the brakes. The forks should have a bit left to deal with bumps when braking. Its a good thing to make them comfy plus it keeps the tyres in contact with the road, that helps as well. Damping is a whole other thing. Buckets Way will be a good test for it, it's a bit bumpy.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on December 25, 2018, 10:40
Went to the shocker guy today, had leaking shocker fixed and a pair of lighter springs fitted. Put them back on bike  :o it isn’t imitating a Hardtail anymore.

On Marty’s recommendation, dropped some oil volume from the front forks  :o it’s not imitating a ..... a....... a...... rock at the front.

Polished it up and she’s good to spin up a few klms with Brett and Levo after Christmas.

Look forward to an update, Chris.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on December 25, 2018, 20:48
Went to the shocker guy today, had leaking shocker fixed

I'm speechless .....

(https://pics.me.me/the-pleaser-the-teaser-the-shocker-the-rocker-the-spocker-16018754.png)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on December 25, 2018, 20:53
 :laugh: :laugh: lucky you didnt go to the minivan guy Chris.. :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on December 29, 2018, 20:47
I'm cleaning petcocks today. One set has 17 mm rubber seal and the other has 19 mm. I can get the 17 mm replacement seals but I cannot find the 19 mm versions. Anyone have any suggestions? Also looking for the plastic tubes and one metal lever .....

I think I'll go clean some more parts ...... then put the tank on the 3C. I'll even get some fresh fuel and maybe flash her up!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: martymoose on December 30, 2018, 03:43
Not sure what pets you have there Jim, but we do have petrol tap rubbers down under..
http://bevelrubber.com.au/cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4_23
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on December 30, 2018, 04:08
Mine are Orlandi's ...... but the 3C set has the 17 mm seals (which I can find here) and my SFC has slightly bigger Orlandi's with 19 mm seals. I'll be stopping in to visit Wolfgang end of January so maybe he'll have something that fits.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on December 30, 2018, 05:22
Not sure what pets you have there Jim, but how come they have dirty cocks?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on December 30, 2018, 05:52
Short legged pets ...... but there are ways to fix that .....

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61UOjIPKsGL._SX425_.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Cosi on December 30, 2018, 07:06
Took the old girl for a shakedown run , ran sweet to the Uki pub , then spat and farted like a bitch all the way home, fucking laverda s....
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on December 30, 2018, 08:31
Took the old girl for a shakedown run , ran sweet to the Uki pub , then spat and farted like a bitch all the way home, fucking laverda s....
  maybe you should have went to a gas station instead Petrol works better than beer in them  :-X
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Legs on December 30, 2018, 09:09
Nice little ride by the three SA amigos today, went and visited the stunning Kenny Blake memorial at Strathalbyn.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on December 30, 2018, 09:25
Had a visit from Levo today for a couple of hours.  He’d just finished a Sunday run with the NSW boys and dropped in to say g’day.  Great to catch up with him again - I think he also enjoyed a dip in our pool to cool things down a bit.  Fired up the BBQ and whacked a couple of sausages on, tossed a bit of salad and we had lunch on the back patio.


It’s great when fellow Laverda tragics drop by...


Happy New Year everyone...


Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on December 30, 2018, 20:53
Had a visit from Levo today for a couple of hours.  He’d just finished a Sunday run with the NSW boys and dropped in to say g’day.  Great to catch up with him again - I think he also enjoyed a dip in our pool to cool things down a bit.  Fired up the BBQ and whacked a couple of sausages on, tossed a bit of salad and we had lunch on the back patio.


It’s great when fellow Laverda tragics drop by...


Just what friends are for  - top form will be over one day !


Happy New Year everyone...


Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: henrywillms on January 01, 2019, 00:51
An exciting New Years Eve here on the Canadian Prairies......-30 C and with windchill it feels like -40 C ( -22 F / -40 F).  So of course the only logical thing to do was drain the carbs on the bike, as I never got around to it in the fall. Luckily the Corsa is in my heated garage so it was not an unpleasant task.   So with hands smelling like gas I have poured a rum and coke to start the New  Year off right. Who said drinking and motorcycles don't mix anyway!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: martymoose on January 01, 2019, 00:59
6 plug racer gets the love.

There you go yogi it’s black
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: martymoose on January 01, 2019, 01:09
New Year’s Eve party in the shed with Will the helicopter and 6 plug racer pilot
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 01, 2019, 05:48
 :o Six plugger is hitting the track?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: martymoose on January 01, 2019, 05:58
Ah no but it has been hitting the road a fair bit with will at the helm.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 01, 2019, 06:29


Nickname it, thong. Double plugger.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on January 01, 2019, 21:58
New Year’s Eve party in the shed with Will the helicopter and 6 plug racer pilot


Helicopter pilot? Laverda? That is a fucking awesome combination ......... Laverda used to cast landing gear parts for Sikorsky 61's by the way!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on January 02, 2019, 08:09
I didn’t list my Sikorsky in my profile- just the bikes..


Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on January 02, 2019, 19:54
I didn’t list my Sikorsky in my profile- just the bikes..


76?
61?
92?
300?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: levo on January 02, 2019, 22:59
Yea it was great to catch up with Yogi always enjoy his company always lots of laughs & good tales to tell.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on January 03, 2019, 10:16
76?
61?
92?
300?


Nah, just a Blackhawk, Jim - I generally like to fly under the radar...  don’t like to brag.


Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on January 03, 2019, 10:19
Yea it was great to catch up with Yogi always enjoy his company always lots of laughs & good tales to tell.


Some are even true..


Glad to see you again - arse and all...  Sorry about the burnt bit on the snags (I ate them off your plate after you left).


Ride free, Levo.


Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: levo on January 03, 2019, 11:37
musta bin hungry eh
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on January 03, 2019, 14:03

Nah, just a Blackhawk, Jim - I generally like to fly under the radar...  don’t like to brag.


Yogi


Hahahahaha ....... nice!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on January 04, 2019, 03:58
musta bin hungry eh


Living up to my nickname - I have no shame...
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on January 04, 2019, 07:29

Nah, just a Blackhawk, Jim

Yogi

Feed that to my dogs. Every time they get it I tell them "Blackhawk down".
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 04, 2019, 18:30
Feed that to my dogs. Every time they get it I tell them "Blackhawk down".

I’m babysitting my sons Staffy, day four and he has “two bush turkeys down”
Love the way he does it, casually walks toward them, he rounds them up into the corner of the fence (so they can’t fly straight up and over) then in a flash, crash tackles them into the fence while he has their neck in his mouth, and shakes the bJesus out of them.

He doesn’t eat them, but enjoys the treat I give him when throwing them in the rubbish bin.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 04, 2019, 21:52
"Bush turkey" is a colloquialism for an unattractive woman, which makes me wonder what are these women doing in your back yard?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on January 07, 2019, 01:23
Trying to get a set of signal lights working on my 3C ....... so far all I have is just "on" ..... no flashie flashie ........ it couldn't be the Lucas signal relay ..... could it?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 07, 2019, 02:55
"Bush turkey" is a colloquialism for an unattractive woman, which makes me wonder what are these women doing in your back yard?

They must be boy racer turkeys, they just seem to scratch around.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 07, 2019, 04:52
Actually, I was mistaken. The colloquialism I was thinking of was "bush pig".
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on January 07, 2019, 05:40
Actually, I was mistaken. The colloquialism I was thinking of was "bush pig".

We get those too ...... sometimes they are called scrunt hogs.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 07, 2019, 05:49
Chris with the twisted twin, how about a pic with the new seat, how was the suspension, comfort? So what was the end fix? How are the vibs now and engine performance after the 7hrs run to meet Brett and Livo.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on January 07, 2019, 08:01
I’m babysitting my sons Staffy, day four and he has “two bush turkeys down”
Love the way he does it, casually walks toward them, he rounds them up into the corner of the fence (so they can’t fly straight up and over) then in a flash, crash tackles them into the fence while he has their neck in his mouth, and shakes the bJesus out of them.

He doesn’t eat them, but enjoys the treat I give him when throwing them in the rubbish bin.

Are you talking bush turkeys as in the Brush Turkey, a protected native species or do you mean bin chickens as in the Australian White Ibis, also a protected native species?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 07, 2019, 08:17
Are you talking bush turkeys as in the Brush Turkey, a protected native species or do you mean bin chickens as in the Australian White Ibis, also a protected native species?

Brush, bush.... same thing, depends where you come from.  Not protected when there’s a Staffy in the backyard
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 07, 2019, 08:31
Chris with the twisted twin, how about a pic with the new seat, how was the suspension, comfort? So what was the end fix? How are the vibs now and engine performance after the 7hrs run to meet Brett and Livo.

Gazi shocker on right blew the new seal on Buckets Way goat track. But the ride with lighter springs was much better, and it even seemed to reduce the vibes. The new seat, whilst rather thin is pretty comfortable. I was chatting to Chris Pritt on the weekend, he brought up the subject of water in the tank, because the intermittent miss raised its head again, but only over rough surfaces. I have discounted electrical issues, and new alternator worked a treat.

How does it go...... fast, very fast for a 46 year old mule. Levo put the boot into the RGS chuffing plumes of soot out the back, and I kept up with ease.

The sound, under power or backing off is addictive. ;D

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on January 07, 2019, 22:27
Early morning run to Akuna Bay, :) :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: maurice turner on January 08, 2019, 00:00
That is one awsome looking bike Tom I will swap you for my KTM???
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on January 08, 2019, 00:01
 :laugh: :laugh: :-*
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jo on January 08, 2019, 09:05
Early morning run to Akuna Bay, :) :)
Have you already got hold of a second mirror? In Europe you will need it ...
 8)

That is one awsome looking bike Tom …
Nothing left to be added!
 :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on January 08, 2019, 09:51
Hey TC,  everyone is correct - that is a great looking 3C, great looking bike.


The things you do whilst getting a haircut in Avalon, eh?


Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on January 08, 2019, 10:39
The things you do whilst getting a haircut in Avalon, eh?



[/quote]

Most expensive haircut in the history of the world that one Yogi :laugh: :laugh: ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 09, 2019, 00:10
Have you already got hold of a second mirror? In Europe you will need it ...
 8)

Well if the buggers drove on the correct side of the road, he/we wouldn't need it.
I can see some near misses coming up :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 09, 2019, 01:14
Chris has a simple way of posting photos. He sends them to me and asks me to post them. I dunno the reason. One of these days I'll tell him to get fucked  :D :-*
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 09, 2019, 01:20
Vince wanted to see what the new seat looked like.
You wouldn't be the first ;)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on January 09, 2019, 03:09
That is a very nice  Bike Chris, nice work, and yes Im working on the dual mirror system. Did you get any real dates from Dave?
Cheers
Tom
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on January 09, 2019, 04:01
Chris has a simple way of posting photos. He sends them to me and asks me to post them. I dunno the reason. One of these days I'll tell him to get fucked  :D :-*

Very nice! What I would call proper.

Is that rear swingarm from a Kawasaki?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on January 09, 2019, 04:05
I put a modern signal flasher relay in my 3C today. Turns out the old Lucas one really was in full failure mode! It is an electronic version meaning it isn't the old fashioned simple bimetallic on/off relay but it seems to work just fine. Hooked up some LED signals (with resistors) and they work just fine as well.

Now I just have to get that mess of wires back in the headlight shell.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 09, 2019, 05:01
Very nice! What I would call proper.

Is that rear swingarm from a Kawasaki?

Shortened XJR1300
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 09, 2019, 07:30
The bike looks great, but thats not my version of a touring seat.Whats Gazi say about the leaking shock, is it the same one that leaked before
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 09, 2019, 08:05
Jim, with an electronic relay you don't need to install resistors in parallel with your indicators. It'll work OK with them, but they're just drawing power for no useful purpose.
The LEDs need series resistors but I assume they're built into the indicator assemblies if they're rated for 12V.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on January 09, 2019, 08:16
Unless there is something bogus about this flasher it doesn't work without the resistors. I have a three pin relay that I know works without resistors but no luck with this one.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 09, 2019, 08:41
Electronic flasher relays are not usually load sensitive. Are you sure it's not a thermal type?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 09, 2019, 09:19
The bike looks great, but thats not my version of a touring seat.Whats Gazi say about the leaking shock, is it the same one that leaked before

It’s not a tourer, butt it’s rather comfy.

Re shockers. Yes it is the same one. When he changed the springs, he recharged the shocks, and said, bring them back and I’ll service them for free. Almost like he new something was suss.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Bigfeesh on January 09, 2019, 10:11
I normally use a single mirror, it works as a good indicator for me as when I ride in Europe (on the wrong side of the road) I always swap the single mirror over to the opposite side. Very important on ze aoutobahn! I do the swap in the sunshine on the Dutch dockside in Ijmunden, wondering if I'm sober yet from the Ferry! :-[
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on January 09, 2019, 12:14
I"m fearing some mountain rock slides with that exhaust Chris! :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on January 09, 2019, 13:13
Two mirrors saves a lot of head swivelling if you ride in traffic a lot. Personal choice.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on January 09, 2019, 13:43
I agree Putting another Oberon on the 3C for the trip.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 09, 2019, 22:16
Did you get any real dates from Dave?
Cheers
Tom

 :o 28th Feb in Brisbane, shitloads of paperwork came through today!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on January 09, 2019, 22:42
Your lucky you got a date,Im still dateless but began dealing with the government this morning.
Did mine under pre 1989 bikes  ::)
now theres only hoping and praying ???
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 10, 2019, 02:58
Your lucky you got a date,Im still dateless but began dealing with the government this morning.
Did mine under pre 1989 bikes  ::)
now theres only hoping and praying ???

 :o Mine doesn't comply: Later model: wheels, hubs, brakes, suspension, swing-arm are the sticking points. Blind Freddy could see that. And, it doesn't carry a Engineers Cert to cover mods.
Let alone the hidden engine modifications (I could fudge that bit)
FFS what's a man to do?  :'( I don't want the bugger impounded on it's way home.
Bear with me while I squeal like a girl.

However, vehicles that have had extensive modifications performed after 1 January 1989 that significantly change the original specification and/or performance of the vehicle will not be able to be imported under the pre-1989 import option. These vehicles are considered remanufactured vehicles.
The considerations listed below are evaluated when a vehicle is assessed for eligibility as a pre-89 vehicle. The assessment is based on a combination of both the extent of any modifications to the vehicle and the effect those modifications have on the performance and design of the vehicle.
Please note that notarised statements and/or Statutory Declarations from either the buyer or seller regarding the date certain modifications took place are not sufficient to demonstrate the date without further supporting documentation.
Failure to provide sufficient information to complete a full assessment may result in assessment delays. Please see requirements below for information required.
If you are considering purchasing a modified pre-89 vehicle to import into Australia, please consider the information below and undertake the self-assessment before purchasing the vehicle.
Has the vehicle been converted from left to right hand drive?
Notes:
A left to right hand drive conversion is considered a major modification even though the function and performance of the vehicle will remain the same.
Has the body of the vehicle been significantly modified?
Notes:
Body modifications such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Chopped roofs
Rear wheel tubs that require modification to the chassis
Full body kits
Replacement of the front or rear panels with a cowl
Extension of the body for limousine use
Conversion from one vehicle type to another (e.g. sedan to coupe, coupe into a convertible, wagon to utility)
Replacement of the original body with a new/replacement body
Minor period type modifications such as flaring of guards to accommodate wider wheels are not generally considered to be significant modifications.
Has the chassis of the vehicle been significantly modified?
Notes:
Chassis modifications such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Addition of roll cages
Relocation of suspension location points for geometry changes or to allow for larger section tyres
Installation of aftermarket front or rear subframe(s) or cradle(s)
Modification of the chassis to accommodate routing of performance exhaust systems
Enlargement of transmission tunnels to accommodate non-standard transmissions
Addition of brackets for purposes such as a location for anti-roll bars and panhard rods are not generally considered significant modifications.
Does the vehicle have the original engine (or an engine that was an option in this model vehicle)?
Notes:
Engine changes and/or modifications such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Addition or upgrade of turbochargers or superchargers (where the installation is not a factory option)
Addition of nitrous oxide injection systems
Engine changes to non-standard or non-optional engines
Modified engines where the sum of modifications (internal components, induction and exhaust) would significantly increase the output of the standard installation engine
The engine type was not available before 1989
Newly manufactured (crate engines) are not generally considered to be post-1989 manufacture on the condition that the above conditions do not apply.
Does the vehicle have the original transmission (or a transmission that was optional in this model vehicle)?
Notes:
Gearbox changes such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Replacement of a gearbox that was not available as an option
Replacement of a gearbox type that was not available before 1989
Gearbox internal changes are not generally considered a significant modification.
Does the vehicle have the original front suspension?
Notes:
Front suspension changes such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Installation of aftermarket suspension systems (e.g. fabricated location members or wishbones)
Installation of a suspension system that was not standard on that model vehicle
Installation of major suspension components from a different vehicle type
Changing or modifying wheel hubs to accommodate components
Changes to springs, shock absorbers, anti-roll bars (or installation where none were originally installed) are not generally considered significant modifications.
Does the vehicle have the original steering system?
Notes:
Steering changes such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Conversion from a steering box type (e.g. recirculating ball, worm and peg) to rack and pinion
Changes to steering column (e.g. Addition of a collapsible steering column element) or addition of power assisted steering are not generally considered significant modifications.
Does the vehicle have the original rear suspension?
Notes:
Rear suspension changes such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Installation of aftermarket suspension systems (location members)
Conversion from one functional type to another (e.g. leaf springs to four or five link live axle)
Installation of a suspension system that was not standard or optional on that model vehicle
Installation of major suspension components from a different vehicle type
Changing or modifying wheel hubs to accommodate components
Changes to springs, shock absorbers, anti-roll bars (or installation where none was originally installed) are not generally considered significant modifications.
Does the vehicle have the original rear axle (or an axle that was optional in this model of vehicle)?
Notes:
Rear axles/final drives changes such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Aftermarket final drive axles housings
Non-standard or non-optional rear axles
Installation of a rear axle/final drive from a different vehicle type
Changes to final drive ratio or installation of new-manufacture rear axle assemblies (to original design) are not generally considered significant modifications.
Does the vehicle have the original braking system (or a braking system that was available as an option in this model vehicle)?
Notes:
Braking system changes such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Installation of a braking system (front and/or rear brakes) that was not standard or optional on that model vehicle
Changes from drum to disc type braking
Installation of an aftermarket braking system (front and/or rear)
Dimensional increase of active braking components (disc or drum)
Installation of braking components from a different vehicle type
Changing or modifying wheel hubs to accommodate components
Installation of a brake booster/s (where none was fitted originally) or pressure limiting valves, grooved or drilled discs are not generally considered significant modifications.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on January 10, 2019, 03:34
That's an awful lot of girlish squealing ....... and as with most girls ...... I didn't understand any of it.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 10, 2019, 03:45
But you're not importing a vehicle. It's already here and registered in Australia. You're just taking it out of the country and bringing it back again. Well, you could try that argument anyway. It might work. Show them the Aussie rego documentation.

If you can't get a guarantee that they'll let you bring it back into the country, it would be risky to take it overseas. I'd suggest you take another bike, or don't take a bike at all. Maybe some kind forum member will lend you a bike for the event.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Lee87H on January 10, 2019, 03:46
more regulations, that's what we all need,Right? just keep jumping through the hoops you circus monkey
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 10, 2019, 04:12
I wonder how Steve Riley that dairy farmer from Victoria will get on bringing his HSV Holden Ute with the Japanese 4 wheel drive conversion built in Australia being raced successfully in The Dakar right now will bring that back to Australia.
Quote
Dakar drama for Holden ute, whats a Holden ?

A post on the Facebook page of Victorian dairy farmer Steve Riley and co-driver Trevor Hanks’ team, Aussie Holden Ute-DAKAR 2019, says it “was actually touch and go” that the 6.0-litre VE SS ute (with Mitsubishi Pajero four-wheel-drive transfer case) eventually passed scrutineering.

Quote from some Victoria Dakar tragic a few know here, builds V8 Motorbikes for fun

Steve has the fastest cows in Australia though !

What were the dramas getting his ute thru scrutineering ?

Steve's a great guy - for those not in the know......he's won the Australian Safari 3 times ( more ? ) in a car and similar amount of class wins on a bike in the Safari too. He's also been mechanic / navigator in the Dakar twice, finishing both times after virtually rebuilding the whole car ( not one he built ) in 2011. He doesn't have the budget of the big guys, but if tenacity counts for anything, he'll be up there.

I'm off to China for 2 weeks for work and as horrible as the thought is, I may not be able to access the Firehose - I will suffer withdrawal if that proves to be true.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 10, 2019, 04:17
Chris if that highly modified road registered race car can go offshore and come back there must be a way for your bike to as well.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 10, 2019, 04:18
But you're not importing a vehicle. It's already here and registered in Australia. You're just taking it out of the country and bringing it back again. Well, you could try that argument anyway. It might work. Show them the Aussie rego documentation.

If you can't get a guarantee that they'll let you bring it back into the country, it would be risky to take it overseas. I'd suggest you take another bike, or don't take a bike at all. Maybe some kind forum member will lend you a bike for the event.

What you are saying is right Cam, here is the bullshit, mine has no plate!

Australian Plated Vehicles Option
Listen to this page
A A A
This arrangement is established under Section 17A(2)(a) of the Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989.
The purpose of the option
The Australian Plated Vehicles option covers road vehicles originally sourced within Australia but subsequently exported. For example, the vehicle may have accompanied the owner on an overseas holiday or tour.
The arrangement allows the vehicle to be re-imported. The arrangement only applies to Australian standard (i.e. certified) vehicles. Applicants are to provide a photo of the vehicle's identification plate.

The vehicle being re-imported is to be the same as the vehicle that was previously exported. If a vehicle has been converted into a different automotive product (such as a replica car or stretched) while overseas, the vehicle no longer qualifies under these arrangements and would have to seek import approval under another option.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 10, 2019, 04:20
Chris if that highly modified road registered race car can go offshore and come back there must be a way for your bike to as well.

There is a race vehicle clause Vince, but mine doesn't comply with that either.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 10, 2019, 04:47
There is a race vehicle clause Vince, but mine doesn't comply with that either.

I'm fucked.
Rang the buggers, they could not recommend a way around it, because if impounded when it came back. I would use the conversation as argument and that would get Michelle in the shit.
Suggested I do the Eligibility form again, and it leaves me with the pre-1989 rules to adhere to.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: motoddrob on January 10, 2019, 05:19
Sounds like a lot of bullshit CK and I don't think I'd take the risk of having to get the bike back home. I'm probably in the same boat with the Motodd though it's registered as a 1974 model so pre ADR rules.
Given the expense of shipping the bike there and back I'd be looking at buying one in Europe and if fairly original could be imported or just sold on when finished with.
How about pulling it apart and sending it back as parts?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on January 10, 2019, 05:35
Thats not good Chris, my doesn't have a plate either but mine is stock, so Im hoping to get a pass, its a lot of shit isnt it.  I think you have a right to squeal a bit :o
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: martymoose on January 10, 2019, 06:28
Bloody hell Chris good luck dealing with all that. Tom no compliance plate on my 3c either as it was sold here before they started with them. Who has to certify you have no asbestos?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on January 10, 2019, 07:20
What you are saying is right Cam, here is the bullshit, mine has no plate!



Yours was made and imported and registered in Australia before plates were even thought of. You need to start talking to the Govt Department and get a letter from them giving you clearance to take the bike out of the country and bring it back. Talking about it on here will change nothing.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on January 10, 2019, 08:09
Chris, If the worst comes to the worst I'm sure we will be able to sort a bike out for you, maybe not a Laverda but I have a couple of other bikes here that could be used if push comes to shove. It doesn't matter what you are riding anyway, the roads are the same, the scenery is the same and the company is the same.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: martymoose on January 10, 2019, 08:56
Yeah but it’s Chris’ shout if he is last to the pub.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on January 10, 2019, 09:02
Fuck it Chris,let"s all go on C90s. :)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: pf1 on January 10, 2019, 09:32
I would like to take a Honda CB77  :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: LJ-2 on January 10, 2019, 10:25
 ;D ;D ;D I ll buy some Honda badges.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: markQLD on January 10, 2019, 11:03
Volunteered poor old SeFFie to become the latest test mule for Redax Laverda.
Things ya do for ya mates ay! 

SeFFie's factory standard engine that works well and suits me just fine.  (thumbup)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4875/46687280551_080a2cf797_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e8AvWX) (https://flic.kr/p/2e8AvWX)

Another Redax Laverda big-bore twisted mongrel engine that will start breathing fire tomorrow.  :o
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4817/31745661427_80d794c470_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QnfP98) (https://flic.kr/p/QnfP98)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Jo on January 10, 2019, 11:32
Just knowing factory std. SeFFie's I would give anything to test drive a twisted big-bore one.
I'm curious about your test report ...
 ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: redax5 on January 10, 2019, 12:16
Volunteered poor old SeFFie to become the latest test mule for Redax Laverda.
Things ya do for ya mates ay! 


aye, David H has to be happy with that outcome seeing how it is his engine, has to owe you cartons of beer at the very least  8)

meanwhile, elsewhere in the workshop, 77 Jota engine started for the first time for something like 20 years plus
off to Adelaide in the next week or two, engine sounds great

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7875/32813125558_0e84844371_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RZzR37)10th Jan MB engine right (https://flic.kr/p/RZzR37)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on January 10, 2019, 12:25
You swapped out the motor just to see if the alternator conversion works!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 10, 2019, 22:00
What you are saying is right Cam, here is the bullshit, mine has no plate!

OK, get a plate for it then. These guys can make the blanks http://www.complianceplates.com.au/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6PvIiZrk3wIV1RwrCh3i7AGLEAAYASAAEgK0K_D_BwE (http://www.complianceplates.com.au/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6PvIiZrk3wIV1RwrCh3i7AGLEAAYASAAEgK0K_D_BwE)

Get some photos of an Aussie plate for a 750 and ask them to copy it. Punch the frame and engine numbers in and you're all set.

How did you get it registered without a compliance plate anyway?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on January 10, 2019, 22:23
Surely if the old twin predates compliance plates - which anything pre-SF3 does - then you can’t be expected to fit one! That to me DOES sound like fraud. A 74 SFC had triple discs and your bodywork and no plate.  Looks to me like the list of regs relates to punters bringing chopped hotrods into the country. Do they really care that much about an old Italian twin?  You’d probably find similar regs for anyone trying to register a vehicle in any state if you dig loosely under the surface.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 10, 2019, 22:26
How did you get it registered without a compliance plate anyway?

Pre ADR. No plates back then.

I have contacted the shipping bloke, to see what his take on this bureaucratic bullshit is.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on January 10, 2019, 22:30
Mark and Red bear in mind the stock exhaust. From my experience with 10:1 and a 5/C cam it felt really gutless above 5k. Also effects the vibes I reckon. Maybe try with stock and with a 2/1 if you have one although the factory pipe won’t fit with stock stand brackets on LHS.
Be innaresting anyways. Maybe with the twister phasing the std pipes will work much better than with the 360 which works a treat with cam and pipe tuned to work together?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on January 10, 2019, 22:34
Pre ADR. No plates back then.

I have contacted the shipping bloke, to see what his take on this bureaucratic bullshit is.

Get the right person, have the bike photographed and documented and get a guarantee that if it’s the same bike it will be allowed back.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 10, 2019, 22:36
You’d probably find similar regs for anyone trying to register a vehicle in any state if you dig loosely under the surface.

True, but where the rego application says list modifications, ticking the "none" box is easy.

Begs the question, how does something like this pre-89 get allowed entry:  https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1966-CHEVROLET-NOVA-II-383CI-700-HP-PRO-CHARGED-4-LINK-9-DIFF-SHOW-CAMARO/113450352438?hash=item1a6a2aff36:g:KcEAAOSwb8BcEw4H:rk:15:pf:0

So many mods on the list are not allowed.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 10, 2019, 23:22
True, but where the rego application says list modifications, ticking the "none" box is easy.

You may have made a rod for your own back Chris.

I assume from the above comment that you've registered it as an un-modified pre-89 bike when it's clearly been modified to buggery. Was the vehicle inspector Blind Freddie?

If you take it out of Australia with its rego documentation stating that it's un-modified, then bring it back in, some customs bloke (who isn't blind) might notice that it's been modified. The only conclusion he can draw then (given that the papers say it left Australia as "un-modified") will be that it was modified while overseas. Then you have to go through the fight to get it back in to Australia as a modified vehicle, which may end in tears if they decide it has to go to the crusher.

I reckon your only way out is to go to the rego people and say that the bike has now (ahem) been modified and you want the rego updated to show that it's a modified pre-89 vehicle before you take it out of the country. I presume you'll need engineer's certificates, etc. Good luck getting that paperwork sorted before February!

If you can't get the paperwork sorted, I reckon your only safe option is to leave it at home.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 11, 2019, 00:39
Exporter/Importer for our bikes came back, what the deal is is for mods done overseas, not in Australia. He assures me we are all go.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 11, 2019, 01:16
If everybody left it to the Burocrates and their regulations all trade would stop. I expect you need to rely on the bloke who navigates through this Bullshit all the time to know what will fly. It's your typical, Computer says NO.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: TC on January 11, 2019, 03:00
He assures me we are all go.
[/quote]

 :)
Nice work, Translated means fucking awesome Chris cause Im sick of getting lost on my own  ::)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 11, 2019, 03:06
He assures me we are all go.


 :)
Nice work, Translated means fucking awesome Chris cause Im sick of getting lost on my own  ::)
Me too, I'll follow you.
I was panicking for a moment there, thought I'd have to take the Kawasaki and have to keep waiting for you blokes to catch up. :P Did you submit pics of frame and engine numbers for application?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 11, 2019, 03:12
If everybody left it to the Burocrates ...

That's the answer. You need the right crate to ship it in - a burocrate!  ;D

Sorry Vince - sometimes your creative spelling tickles my funny bone.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 11, 2019, 04:13
I installed a spell checker called Grammarly, every now and then it stalls and the icon just spins. I then need to restart the PC. But typically if its the wrong word but spelled correctly it just goes through to the keeper. Oddly lots of my mistakes have a pun like quality by accident, maybe. The joys of dyslexia.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on January 11, 2019, 11:24
It used to be a great leg opener back in the pre-PC days - Fruity Dyslexia.  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 11, 2019, 22:00
A long time ago a couple of us on bikes rode in to the Wolf Blass winery in South Australia to sample some of their wines. The man himself (Wolfgang) came out with a bottle of red wine that he thought we might appreciate. The fancy label said "Rene Pogel Shiraz". We were wondering who the fuck Rene Pogel was until he told us to read it backwards. Seems the bloke is a bit of a joker :D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on January 12, 2019, 02:10
That label used to be for sale in WA at a liquor store in Subiaco in the 70's. The owner had cleanskins labelled with this. He swapped to Rene Pogel when he got too many complaints about the original label, Chateau Le Gopener. I wonder if Wolf pinched the label off him or vicky verky.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on January 12, 2019, 13:08
From reputation it aught to be vodka with that moniker.
Wolf Blass is the bloke who among others got busted for doctoring wine with ethelyne glycol, to round out the taste of bitter stuff. He then lobbied for it to be an approved additive. So think about that when your head is throbbing the next morning after a night of cheap red.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 12, 2019, 21:47
Blimey. Ethylene glycol is quite toxic, even in small amounts. Are you sure it wasn't propylene glycol he was adding? Prop glycol is generally considered to be a safe food additive and has a similar taste to ethylene glycol.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on January 13, 2019, 03:36
Are you sure it was Australia. Austria had a major ethylene glycol in wine problem but I can't recall anything like that in Oz.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 13, 2019, 04:54
Are you sure it was Australia. Austria had a major ethylene glycol in wine problem but I can't recall anything like that in Oz.

My biggest problem with things in red wine is flies. My wife drinks mostly white, me red, when having a glass or tw together on the deck I always seem to get a fly swimming around in my wine, never hers. Odd that.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on January 13, 2019, 06:31
Exporter/Importer for our bikes came back, what the deal is is for mods done overseas, not in Australia. He assures me we are all go.


Do you blokes get a copy of export paperwork before you take bike over to the shipper?  If so, consider taking photos of the bikes with the export paperwork and maybe the days newspaper to confirm the date of photo and keep it on your phone.  Then you can show them that - externally at least - the bike has had no modifications done to it overseas.  Maybe see if you can lodge the photos with a named officer at the dept. before you go, and talk him into backing you if there are any hassles.  I cannot see a court allowing them to deny re-entry if you have dated photographs of the bikes prior to shipping and copies of export shipping documents and itinerary.  Get all your ducks in a row before you ship.


Have you got any names of a senior customs dude that you have spoken to about your concerns?  If so, he’s your man - just tell him of the purpose of the trip and your concerns about losing the bikes on re-entry.  There has to be a senior there who you can talk and write to..


Any hassles, go straight to a customs agent (I have good one in Sydney who rides bikes and looked after my imports) and the appropriate administration tribunal
or Federal Court.


Happy to try and help you if I can, should it looks bad upon re-entry.


Maybe see if Redax are able to supply documentation regarding lack of asbestos in gaskets, if this is the case..


Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on January 13, 2019, 06:40
By the way, if they try to pull any tricks like ‘no right to review’,  don’t fall for that malarkey - there is also Ministerial discretion.  In fact, you could find a senior bureaucrat in Customs we’ll before you leave and speak to them to explain the situation, get their email address, and email them thanking for the discussion, reaffirming your concerns and send them dates photos, itinerary and export shipping docs.


Figure out what their reasons might be for denying re-entry, and then address these point by point in writing before you go.


Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 13, 2019, 22:11
… consider taking photos of the bikes with the export paperwork and maybe the days newspaper to confirm the date of photo and keep it on your phone. 

The newspaper thing won't work. Newspaper photos just confirm the earliest date of the photo, not the latest.

Anyone could take a photo with a newspaper from years ago and claim the mods were done way back then, when in fact they could have been done yesterday.

Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 14, 2019, 01:15
The newspaper thing won't work. Newspaper photos just confirm the earliest date of the photo, not the latest.

Anyone could take a photo with a newspaper from years ago and claim the mods were done way back then, when in fact they could have been done yesterday.

How about the June 2019 forum calendar picture.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Yogi on January 14, 2019, 10:47
The newspaper thing won't work. Newspaper photos just confirm the earliest date of the photo, not the latest.

Anyone could take a photo with a newspaper from years ago and claim the mods were done way back then, when in fact they could have been done yesterday.


Cam, when you take a digital photograph with a camera, the date that the photo is taken is atta he’d to the digital image along with the information including serial number of the camera used.  At least, that is my own understanding. The dated newspaper only serves to place the newspaper on that date, with the digital camera’s own corresponding timeline.


Yogi
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on January 14, 2019, 15:17

Cam, when you take a digital photograph with a camera, the date that the photo is taken is atta he’d to the digital image along with the information including serial number of the camera used.  At least, that is my own understanding. The dated newspaper only serves to place the newspaper on that date, with the digital camera’s own corresponding timeline.


Yogi


You do realise it is possible to change the time and date on a camera.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 14, 2019, 18:55
Dumped fuel from tank into a clear container, no water to be found.
Carbs off to check float heights next.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 14, 2019, 23:51
You do realise it is possible to change the time and date on a camera.

It's also quite simple to edit the photo properties. The photo image itself can also be edited with photoshop or other software. So a digital image isn't really proof of anything.

Interesting logic problem.  The newspaper photo shows that it was taken after the date the paper was published, but it's not easy to prove a photo can only have been taken before a specific date. One way would be to include a person in the photo, then kill them! Although I suspect that might lead to a bigger problem for Chris than trying to extract his bike from Customs.  Perhaps a less extreme method would be to take a photo of the bike in front of a building that's about to be demolished.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on January 14, 2019, 23:56
Or take photos in the presence of someone official and have them sign and verify that they witnessed that the motorcycle was as pictured on such and such a date.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 15, 2019, 00:06
Stat Dec, they carry a huge amount of weight. They just usually just need a neck on the line to save their arse. Paper Trump's word of mouth.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 15, 2019, 01:57
Or take photos in the presence of someone official and have them sign and verify that they witnessed that the motorcycle was as pictured on such and such a date.

I have 32 pages of proof on the net: https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,93299.0.html
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 15, 2019, 05:47
Pulled carbs off, float heights were 15mm  :(   now 18mm  :D
Could explain why mixture screws were wound way out, Brett found that on the Snowy run.
Last people to have carbs off/apart were the dyno guys ......... I'll blame them.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 15, 2019, 06:14
My dyno guy doesn't tune the bike, he just runs it on the dyno. He might make recommendations about what to do with jets, needles, etc. according to the dyno results, but he then goes off and does something else while I do the jetting changes. When I'm done he comes back and gives it another run. I like doing it that way because I know exactly what's been done, and I save a bit of money by not paying him to be spannering on the bike.

He doesn't do it that way for everyone, only old farts like me who like to have a hands-on involvement. Some people don't wanna get their hands dirty. They just leave their bike with him and come back later to pick it up when it's done.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on January 15, 2019, 23:03
My dyno guy doesn't tune the bike, he just runs it on the dyno. He might make recommendations about what to do with jets, needles, etc. according to the dyno results, but he then goes off and does something else while I do the jetting changes. When I'm done he comes back and gives it another run. I like doing it that way because I know exactly what's been done, and I save a bit of money by not paying him to be spannering on the bike.

He doesn't do it that way for everyone, only old farts like me who like to have a hands-on involvement. Some people don't wanna get their hands dirty. They just leave their bike with him and come back later to pick it up when it's done.

Sounds like a good sys, Cam.
Once I get mine running it'll be off to Clyde Wolfenden up the road for some dyno work on the FCRs. I have to get it done before he bloody retires though! I'm guessing he knows a whole lot about FCRs and CRs, with those Honda motors he builds. Bro Tippie has given me the jetting stats for his 750 SFC tune - just need to tweak it for big bore and my twin exhaust system.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on January 17, 2019, 19:42
Nearly finished getting the throttle cables and set up correct on the drummer project  :o think now have the optimum length and position for the splitter only time will tell but. At least I have become quite an expert on soldering the nipples on the ends of the cables  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 17, 2019, 22:51
At least I have become quite an expert on soldering the nipples on the ends of the cables  ;D

 :o I takes me hat off to you. Hot candle wax is about the most I can endure.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on January 17, 2019, 23:07
Nearly finished getting the throttle cables and set up correct on the drummer project  :o think now have the optimum length and position for the splitter only time will tell but. At least I have become quite an expert on soldering the nipples on the ends of the cables  ;D

Are they steel cables Brett? I'm planning on making up my own clutch cables from stainless, but am assuming solder will never bond to the stainless. Any tips will make life easier. Maybe there's a special stainless compound solder?? I think bicycle stainless cables are crimped.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: martymoose on January 18, 2019, 00:12
Bring a small pot of solder to the boil. Fit nipple and flare end of the cable. Dunk in the solder and watch it suck up the cable. Done. Never had one come off.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 18, 2019, 02:18
Bring a small pot of solder to the boil.

Holy crap, you like to get plenty of heat into it if you get the solder to boil (about 2000C). Most people just melt the solder (about 200C).
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on January 18, 2019, 06:28
I used to use silver solder, never had one fail either, but I just use bought ones now, Venhill.
Come on Chris, they just use alligator clips for torturing their victims, never needed to solder the electrodes on.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on January 18, 2019, 07:51
I use a solder pot, the key is like Marty said flare the end slightly, the solder I use is 96 percent tin 4 percent silver, its 5 times stronger than normal solder the key is in the flux you use and where you put it.
If I could buy the damn cables ready done would have done so.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Piranha Brother 2 on January 19, 2019, 00:04
I'm experimenting with compressionless bicycle brake housing, so the inner wire has to be smaller than std clutch - bicycle brake inner wire. Might break in a week, might last years, but it should provide a very positive clutch action, with little friction.

Thanks for the tips on soldering. Makes sense and sounds easy.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul LeClair on January 19, 2019, 04:21
took the 84 RGS Executive to be displayed in the local large Motorcycle Show, in the Rocky Mountain subsection of the Canadian Vintage Motorcycle Club exhibit. This years exhibit theme was motorcycles of Europe. Seemed to be well received.

Paul LeClair
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul LeClair on January 19, 2019, 04:28
working on converting my old small single garage with attached open car port into a small double garage with power and heat. Ran power, sub panel, gas line, gas furnace, electrical outlets for tools, heavier cabling and outlets for welder and compressor, insulate and vapour barrier, install a steel supporting beam after the wall between removed, new windows and doors, now starting on the interior finishing with drywall (gyrock, sheet rock, gypsum board, whatever the stuff may be called where you are....), then will be on to installing cabinetry, work benches, tools, etc...…, then the Laverda's and other can finally come inside...

Youngest son has been helping, one of the photos shows him preparing the steel beam.

Paul LeClair
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 19, 2019, 05:19
Welcome back Paul, I was just mentioning to Red today that we haven’t heard from you for a long time. What is going to hold the beam up?

I had to do a similar thing in my kitchen, but with 2 x structural timber planks screwed together, and undoing the acro props was very nerve wracking. My laser measuring thingo showed 1mm of movement in the centre, I was happy with that.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 19, 2019, 05:25
Not many Acro props,single story building?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: chrisk on January 19, 2019, 06:58
Not many Acro props,single story building?

I had 6 acro props for my job on a load bearing wall. Probably overkill, but better than having the roof cave in.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 19, 2019, 07:43
You need to spread the load, a nice wide foot eg plank under and look under that as well. It gets interesting in 3 story brick buildings. There you use gadgets called Trishores, that's triple Acros. And you need to think about getting the beam in place before shoring, not happening after there-there. My favourite is needle shoring, that's real fun.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Ventodue on January 19, 2019, 12:00
Welcome back Paul, I was just mentioning to Red today that we haven’t heard from you for a long time. 

Echo that - good to hear from you Paul  (clap)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond on January 19, 2019, 17:36
Nice one Paul - bringing Laverdas to the masses is exactly the right move as it’s such a good bike - the handling is untouchable!
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul LeClair on January 19, 2019, 18:13
for the garage/car port, the span is 22 feet, and the steel beam is 16 feet. Single story building, only the weight of the roof and the snow load to worry about. The engineering drawings call for footings below the frost line (about 4 to 5 feet), and 4 foot long timber stub walls at each end of the steel beam enclosing the ends of the beam, with timber structural supports under the beam ends supported by the footings, and the stub walls tied into the outer walls.. The acro posts (known as "jack posts" here, are only temporary. Can't see it in the photos but I already broke through the concrete with a rented jackhammer to make holes about 30 inches around to allow the "screw pilings" to be installed  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_piles

my youngest son and I have done all the work so far, with appropriate City inspections, but I have just hired a professional to do the gyprock sheeting. taping and sanding, and priming. Same for the footings, some fancy hydraulic equipment required to turn the screw piles into the ground, and then printed torque readouts required to satisfy the City inspector that they are deep and tight enough.

between the garage/car port, being unreasonably busy at work with trials, and hanging out with the grand kids I have been a bit short of time. The heavy work schedule should be resolving by about mid February 2019 as I have a big gap in my trial schedule coming up, thankfully. By then hopefully the garage may be mostly useable and I can return to some motorcycle projects, including the totally disassembled Garelli 150 which hopefully I can remember how to put back together...….

I do continue to scan the forum most days, you lot have been busy and having fun, good on you all!

Paul LeClair
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul LeClair on January 19, 2019, 18:17
Nice one Paul - bringing Laverdas to the masses is exactly the right move as it’s such a good bike - the handling is untouchable!

I was part of the rotating crew manning the display over the weekend. Reactions to the RGS ranged from the typical "what is a Laverda and who made it" to the rarer "I had a Jota when I was younger….."

most had never seen a Laverda before. The bike was very well received.

Paul LeClair
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Tippie on January 20, 2019, 06:25
"only the weight of the roof and the snow load to worry about." would be an understatement wouldn´t it, Paul? You can get very heavy snowfalls there I reckon.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Vince on January 20, 2019, 06:39
Depends on the pitch, even we in Oz build steep pitchs in the Ski fields so it sheds. Seen some dangerous lumps fall on occasion.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on January 20, 2019, 07:57

 but I have just hired a professional to do the gyprock sheeting. taping and sanding, and priming.

Paul LeClair

Chicken. Do your own and it can look as crap as mine  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: helicopterjim on January 20, 2019, 17:09
"only the weight of the roof and the snow load to worry about." would be an understatement wouldn´t it, Paul? You can get very heavy snowfalls there I reckon.

They only get the "dry" snow in Calgary  ;D ;D....... on the coast we can get 2 to 3 feet of "wet" snow ......... now THAT will flatten a building not built correctly :P :P.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on January 20, 2019, 17:33
Great to see you back again Paul,
I have very strong and fond memories, that a few of us will remember when Nickdav7 organised a proper "mens dinner" at the RAC club in London, all suited and booted we all were and not a pole dancer (the ones that swing on shiny Acro's, not the nationality) on site anywhere, it would be good to do that one again Nicko, but how about Le Gavroche, or restaurant Gordon Ramsey this time? Bike shed would be good also, although not for the same reasons.
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Brett on January 20, 2019, 18:46
Yes Welcome back Paul, good to see ya giving your Exec a run, don't be modest probably stole the show ? well it should have  :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrUR9SRdumQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrUR9SRdumQ)
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 20, 2019, 23:07
I was part of the rotating crew manning the display over the weekend.

Blimey, you like to do things the hard way. How did you avoid getting dizzy from rotating all the time?
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Paul LeClair on January 21, 2019, 01:37
the Laverda garage reno is proceeding, the drywall guy I hired is fast and seems to be really good. Current progress.....

Paul LeClair
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Dellortoman on January 21, 2019, 02:50
Either you're holding the camera sideways or I've fallen off my chair, again.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: CLEMTOG on January 21, 2019, 13:17
I can almost feel the (pending) dust
CLEM
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: Davo on January 21, 2019, 15:25
I can almost feel the (pending) dust
CLEM

The pro's use a vacuum sander, unlike us dust covered amateurs.
Title: Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?
Post by: