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Title: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Scrumpy on April 11, 2013, 20:39
Some of you guys seem to be missing BOM. So in true Blue Peter fashion here is one I made earlier.

Happy voting

Scrumpy

For more shots that didn't get posted check out this link: https://picasaweb.google.com/112177173633076732546/Motoplast02# (https://picasaweb.google.com/112177173633076732546/Motoplast02#)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JWFqJbYMozc/UVtVBLRn_XI/AAAAAAAACdE/ZQXTlD0H1XE/s600/155-5586_B.jpg)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZMvHxvB6QlE/UVtVBosA6ZI/AAAAAAAACdM/aw_rgRWpqVI/s500/1706003.jpg)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_3jRjHUw6uo/UVtVMV4dGaI/AAAAAAAACgI/ttfRoTypkoU/s640/MotoPlast1.jpg)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NF-R4f9GU7g/UVtVFLrnaTI/AAAAAAAACeY/e347xgIvai0/s640/556897_4299564056969_1065842650_n.jpg)(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-77NCeFl3iaU/UVtVNLBtYQI/AAAAAAAACgk/ZvQTBRsbpVw/s499/b-crop.jpg)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y-O8E7AZkbA/UVtVG2z__KI/AAAAAAAACe8/YMZmnLJyDtY/s640/DSCN0627.jpg) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-tAFgrMZOATI/UVtVPbNp7vI/AAAAAAAACg8/VJmvUF7kYfk/s640/d%25C3%2583%25C2%25A4ne.jpg)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JHcOAB19ltc/UVtVQwTXJzI/AAAAAAAAChk/unF1Og_uFaE/s720/motopl17.jpg)

Some shots from the track.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HpA68yhhxkE/UVtVQ0LjN0I/AAAAAAAAChs/wzQQWh3NFkQ/s377/motopl18.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-10Qh3vEN_NY/UVtVCwJBYlI/AAAAAAAACdo/pXE138vRY5Q/s500/1706013.jpg)

Option 1: No 23
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JWFqJbYMozc/UVtVBLRn_XI/AAAAAAAACdE/ZQXTlD0H1XE/s600/155-5586_B.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1jqTdBQ1fXA/UVtVDtuhOzI/AAAAAAAACeE/tw2zFn9CF5Q/s300/30p.jpg)

Option 2: No 4
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZMvHxvB6QlE/UVtVBosA6ZI/AAAAAAAACdM/aw_rgRWpqVI/s500/1706003.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wlNp2REnlrI/UVtVBxeTdBI/AAAAAAAACdI/jnuZl5TGPxI/s500/1706005.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-g_CcWM5-Pl0/UVtVE_HWmaI/AAAAAAAACeU/egA9mpngzeg/s600/Bol.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QI7zLmHHPM0/UVtVCLaDGxI/AAAAAAAACdc/34hnKAFOt3A/s500/1706007.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JthH8ekr5IE/UVtVCSXBlsI/AAAAAAAACdk/PMa8Ixi48SU/s500/1706011.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cTkb11QSdig/UWMJyRS89tI/AAAAAAAACkg/RA2x_G3_SmA/s640/laverda%25203.jpg)

Option 3: California Dreamin
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_3jRjHUw6uo/UVtVMV4dGaI/AAAAAAAACgI/ttfRoTypkoU/s640/MotoPlast1.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cVRas4wjAzM/UVtVMmWKzHI/AAAAAAAACgE/23xtAEzmcpc/s720/MotoPlast3.jpg)

Option 4: Wart Hog
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NF-R4f9GU7g/UVtVFLrnaTI/AAAAAAAACeY/e347xgIvai0/s640/556897_4299564056969_1065842650_n.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lrozhXdbz9c/UVtVA6FPIVI/AAAAAAAACcw/rtMompdl3DI/s720/165847_4299871464654_1228471977_n.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qEcriQXHlHQ/UVtVQAIIr7I/AAAAAAAAChI/AAvdgk-SX2g/s448/motopl10.jpg)

Option 5: Lean and Mean
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-77NCeFl3iaU/UVtVNLBtYQI/AAAAAAAACgk/ZvQTBRsbpVw/s499/b-crop.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-syULgZ9QHHo/UVtVNZPF7iI/AAAAAAAACgc/fz3ZTH1P_ic/s526/bollea10.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4kpRHnfI5WU/UVtVMp9ySyI/AAAAAAAACf8/GCwv-1eYeyY/s488/a-crop.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/24756_1114549159998_3382530_n.jpg)

Option 6: Spanish Delight
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vGtRduv0cmQ/UVtVGN1mS0I/AAAAAAAACes/Ijf32_bHKEU/s640/DSCN0625.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-47jUqqvaFAk/UVtVGnwoP3I/AAAAAAAACfA/F58fUh0a2NQ/s640/DSCN0626.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y-O8E7AZkbA/UVtVG2z__KI/AAAAAAAACe8/YMZmnLJyDtY/s640/DSCN0627.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xq5GKLnjfRM/UVtVHD81JeI/AAAAAAAACfI/I5cS3G720AA/s640/DSCN0628.jpg)

Option 7: Skeletor
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-tAFgrMZOATI/UVtVPbNp7vI/AAAAAAAACg8/VJmvUF7kYfk/s640/d%25C3%2583%25C2%25A4ne.jpg)

Option 8: Shades of Grey
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JHcOAB19ltc/UVtVQwTXJzI/AAAAAAAAChk/unF1Og_uFaE/s720/motopl17.jpg)
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Poffer on April 11, 2013, 20:46
Bloody hell Scrumpy - what a choice. It's like going into a bar full of ugly birds  :o

Think I will have to vote after I have had a few pints  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: sfcpiet on April 11, 2013, 21:03
None of them? :o

Somehow, each and every one looks wrong in at least one way or another... ::)

Reckon I'll need a beer or 7 myself, cheers Pete! (cheers)

piet
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Tom Eatman on April 11, 2013, 21:50
They might be wierd and quirky but the're all still much better than those goofy chopper things that won't die and permantly disappear. Still look better than a lot of the new junk on today's roads.

Tom
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: drikko on April 11, 2013, 21:59
iNTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE JETTING/FLOAT BOWLS WORK IN THE CARBS IN #5, stupid caps lock sorry.....

Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Mingh on April 11, 2013, 22:09
one more hideous than the other, but the first one is from the belgian importer, so that takes out from tha anonimous lumps of melted lava around world's greatest looking engine.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Spondonrider on April 11, 2013, 22:31
In person, California Dreaming is actually a nice looking bike. I shot the top picture of it and am the guy leaning down toward the bike in the 2nd. Something about the Motoplast though...I like the frames but it seems really hard to get a decent set of clothes on it.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Terry Dymond on April 11, 2013, 23:06
HMMMM. Jury's out for the moment.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: motoddrob on April 12, 2013, 00:47
Agree with Scott, nice looking frame but the clothes don't do it for me. Ugly tank shapes too. I'll also need several beers to decide which to vote for :o

Seems that there are a couple of different frames shapes, how many variations were made?
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: chrisk on April 12, 2013, 02:49
Option 7: Skeletor, the best looking of the lot, bar the fairing and handlebars .... looks like the front wheel is fitted backwards, isn't it?.

I'm rather attracted to the the orange on orange!
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Spondonrider on April 12, 2013, 03:30
Thought I'd post this up. This is California Dreaming, shot back in the '80s at a bike show in Santa Barbara, CA.


(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv135/ColoradoSpider/Motorcycles/SpecialinSantaBarbara_zpsf05f0530.jpg)
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Vince on April 12, 2013, 05:20
Having a low seat high probably is a good idea,lower centre of gravity but it must make a comfortable riding position bloody hard to achieve and even harder to get a flowing look  to the bodywork.The last pic defiantly has a better perspective,and then you see the end of the seat..
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: hooksey on April 12, 2013, 06:05
Dress it in BLACK 4 me  :-*

Doesnt look as Fugly in black , unlike the Red or Orange   :o  :o
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Gerald on April 12, 2013, 08:45
I'm with Tom! way better than all those Frankenbikes and fugly modern abominations ;D

Gerald
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: sonicboom500 on April 12, 2013, 11:52
I think it's the angles of the tops of the tank and seat unit that give the squatting dog look.
I know it's function over style but a few mesh infill panels for the frame fronts would help the esthetics
without changing the actual structures.
I do like Skeletor in a sort of tube fest sort of style.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: sfc1000uk on April 12, 2013, 12:32
I reckon skeletor has the bodywork nearest to looking right except for that fucking awful fairing.

that looks the sort of shonky cheap piece of crap that gets nailed to the front of a blandit by someone who's into the shitfighter scene. It's horrid.

But the seat & tank look better than most of the others...

Reckon that of the others, california dreaming is my favourite, Spanish Delight runs it close but the exhaust looks wrong to my eyes.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: henrywillms on April 12, 2013, 14:11
Shades of grey ....like some girls these bikes are best seen with the lights out.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: sfc1000uk on April 12, 2013, 14:24
Shades of grey ....like some girls these bikes are best seen with the lights out.

Mind, you don't look at the mantlepiece when you're poking the fire...

the one place you can't see how truly bowfing some of these bikes are is from the saddle.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Laverdalothar on April 12, 2013, 16:57
you see my problem now with this frame: there is not one bodywork existing, that I am tempted to copy...  >:(

The competition is 1 year to early, Jack...  ;)
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: motoddrob on April 13, 2013, 00:38
Hey Lothar, what type of frame do you have? I see 2 different designs with the photos posted.
Do you have any bodywork with your frame? Starting from scratch turns into a huge job if you undertake the project yourself. I'd never do it again!!
I'd want Boba to be my new best friend if I was you ;D
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Vince on April 13, 2013, 01:02
To me I would be finding a way to conform the bike shape to fit my body while mounted on the bike,better get some spray foam Loathar.I recommend a liberal coat of anti stick material,that foam doest like coming off.Did a job once where I was practically swimming in it,I was scrapping it off my body with a razer blade for a week.Be a good idea to video it,might be slightly amusing.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: motoddrob on April 13, 2013, 01:19
Skeletor for me but loose the fairing and orange wheels. I prefer that frame design too. Best seat unit of the lot too. Cal dreaming is nicely finished but I'm not keen on full fairings and it has too much bodywork.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: bazzee on April 13, 2013, 03:56
To me I would be finding a way to conform the bike shape to fit my body while mounted on the bike,better get some spray foam Loathar.I recommend a liberal coat of anti stick material,that foam doest like coming off.Did a job once where I was practically swimming in it,I was scrapping it off my body with a razer blade for a week.Be a good idea to video it,might be slightly amusing.

Vince,

it's a little unclear to me, but are you suggesting Lothar puts the foam on the bike, or himself? Sounds borderline kinky, what with the anti-stick material and razor blades.  :o

bazzee  ;)
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Vince on April 13, 2013, 04:34
With that foam it docent mater where you want it to go,it does its own thing.I was half joking and half serious.The bodywork needs to follow the form of the rider to make him or her comfortable and make removal of it reasonably easy plus be reasonably aerodynamic.Looking at the above pics,its not an easy solution.Your governed by the structure and the rider,how many options are there considering the above restraints.That tends to explain why graphics got a bit push,and why most bikes tend to look alike.So what make one a beauty and another a dog?I know what I like but don't know why,habit maybe.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Romeo.D on April 13, 2013, 08:09
you see my problem now with this frame: there is not one bodywork existing, that I am tempted to copy...  >:(

The competition is 1 year to early, Jack...  ;)

Time for you to develop soething new :D
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: MarnixSFC on April 13, 2013, 08:21
I agree they are very difficult to turn into a pretty bike, but the later version with the (mostly) straight tubes is the best basis, not the spagghetti version which is the one they sold the most of. Quite a few of them ended up here in Holland and Belgium at the time, some of them were raced, Dutch importer at the time 'Moto City' raced one as indeed did Belgian 'Team Enzo'.

I remember at the 1981 24 hours of le Mans, the Enzo team struggled with a leaking tank. It simply was not a decent construction. Now if that was done for the sake of beauty..

Wanted to include pic but option for attachments seems to have disappeared..

Marnix
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Laverdalothar on April 13, 2013, 09:20
Hi Rob, Vince and all,

the frame I have is the one on Option 3,4,5,6 and 8 of the competition. I like it a lot more from the styling side, though I think the other frame is way lighter (less tubing...) and not that "dominant". My frame though offers at least SOME lines you can work with, so hopefully, I will be able to shape things less ugly than the examples on the 1st page...

I do have a tank that's rear part I do like quite much, however, the builder seem to have lost patience when it came to the top and front...

But as I have to make up a tank myself anyway (bottom does not give enough space for longer bellmouthes etc. and shape is ugly of the tank I have), I will use this tank as a basis shape for the rear and work from there.

Seat unit I must admit I haven't seen ANY lately, that does fit the bike perfectly. THAT will be the biggest challenge to get right, besides the overall line...

Fairing is the least problem, as I do have 3 that would fit the bike and at least 2 are not the most ugly ones. Also, the frame provides a lot of mounting-points already for the (half-) fairing I am thinking of. But first, I have to collect the front rim and tripple clamps from Piet, put some rubber on the rims and some other things to get the thing onto its wheels. Then I can start shaping the tank's upper side and get an impression what to do with the seat etc.

Finding the right position for the footrests is the next issue then... Seating position is influencing not only the comfort but also the handling in curves etc.. To much forward and you end up with a bike that slips over the front and has to much rear-wheel spin as well as a less effective wind protection from the fairing, to much backward and you arms might be to short and sitting might be very uncomfortable for long distance rides and turning in to small bends might be a problem. I will need some help of some experienced person here, I fear...
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Steph on April 13, 2013, 09:21
My vote goes to the #79 Enzo one which is not in the list.

Not chauvinism I always liked the untidy Bevilacqua brothers way.

Remember going in Jemappes (Enzo's workshop place) back in the years was colorful each time.

Better to be patient  ;D

Stéphane

Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Laverdalothar on April 13, 2013, 09:57
I am pretty sure that Enzo had more than one special, but all I could find was this one:

(http://www.laverda-paradies.de/modelle/1000special/87-8.jpg)

which does not seem to be a Motoplast. Any idea what frame that is?
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: sfcpiet on April 13, 2013, 10:02
Nico Bakker

piet
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Steph on April 13, 2013, 10:02
Nico Bakker frame

Stéphane

Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: sfcpiet on April 13, 2013, 12:50
Good timing Stephane... ;D

piet
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Romeo.D on April 13, 2013, 14:03
Nico Bakker , have similar one with Kwak Z1000ELR  engine great bike.
I is like driving 250gp with big 4 stroke engine.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Steph on April 13, 2013, 15:56
Good timing Stephane... ;D

Yes same timing
But later nevertheless  ;)
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: MarnixSFC on April 13, 2013, 21:41
Here's a pic of the Enzo machine @ 24 h Le Mans 1981. They had a few issues there.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: '71 SF on April 13, 2013, 23:14
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Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: padlock on April 14, 2013, 07:57
Had to be lean and mean. only because the tank is quite nice.

    FFF
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Laverdalothar on April 14, 2013, 09:08
Here's a pic of the Enzo machine @ 24 h Le Mans 1981. They had a few issues there.

Thanks, Marnix, found that picture, too, when I searched for Motoplast pictures, but did not look at the "Team Enzo" sticker...  :-[

BTW: here are some more Motoplast pics...:


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EUio6NaAarA/TvIVD7hLg3I/AAAAAAAAFxI/3z064a3hHUU/s640/Motoplast6.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dkhWrUG6Ovo/TvIVjmG14RI/AAAAAAAAFy0/-yd5iSDe7iw/s474/Bol81_team%2520virage%25206_02%2520-%2520Copie.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QQ1UIup46kQ/TvIWFXTnrQI/AAAAAAAAFzg/9vDustymNqk/s800/1000%2520Team%2520ENZO%252003.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MVHrTb7eD78/TvIWHHg4P3I/AAAAAAAAFzo/XZiuwkZ5OXs/s600/Dektereff-001b.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f9ncs5UGB_8/Tvn_a5za2II/AAAAAAAAF2I/KIcjxpbTHFo/s800/LotharMotoplast0002.jpg)
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: MarnixSFC on April 14, 2013, 21:24
Lothar, I took that pic myself at Le Mans , so surprised it's already on the internet. Can only be Gijs van Dijk because I gave him prints of my pics at the time. The wonders of the internet!

Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: MarnixSFC on April 14, 2013, 21:29
Thought this Motoplast looked quite OK.

Marnix
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Laverdalothar on April 14, 2013, 22:19
Lothar, I took that pic myself at Le Mans , so surprised it's already on the internet. Can only be Gijs van Dijk because I gave him prints of my pics at the time. The wonders of the internet!



Seems I mixed your picture up with mine above, which shows the same bike without lower fairing. Your picture was NOT what I found, I have to stand correct.

Thanks for the other picture. Seems there were more than 10 built... :o
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Romeo.D on April 14, 2013, 22:57
Thought this Motoplast looked quite OK.

Marnix

Best till now, like the front end (fork).
Looking at it it seams to me it is builded for orangutan or other sort of monky ;D, you have to have short legs and long hends to fit on this, what i mean is distance between seat and fotpegs and seat and handelbars.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Vince on April 15, 2013, 05:43
It would be probably be more comfortable to have forward controls like a chopper with these low seats and high rearset pegs.There was a move to feet first bikes,ala Royce Creasly around that time.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: laverdas on April 15, 2013, 22:37
showing your age vince ;) ;).
andy
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Laverdalothar on April 16, 2013, 06:43
Looking at it it seams to me it is builded for orangutan or other sort of monky ;D, you have to have short legs and long hends to fit on this, what i mean is distance between seat and fotpegs and seat and handelbars.

well - not much difference here between this and the 750 SFC, at least the one I rode years ago. But it is more about having SLIM than short legs, so you can fold them at almost 180°...

mine will have the seat a bit higher, which gives less sportive handling but more comfort...
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: chrisk on April 17, 2013, 10:40
Best till now, like the front end (fork).
Looking at it it seams to me it is builded for orangutan or other sort of monky ;D, you have to have short legs and long hends to fit on this

Built for the Chinese market eh?

Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: blab on April 17, 2013, 11:18
Best till now, like the front end (fork).
Looking at it it seams to me it is builded for orangutan or other sort of monky ;D, you have to have short legs and long hends to fit on this, what i mean is distance between seat and fotpegs and seat and handelbars.

No good for a Scotsman then.
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: Scrumpy on April 26, 2013, 15:45
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/45586_513545922041320_1796327660_n.jpg
Title: Re: Bike of the Month-Motoplast
Post by: chrisk on May 02, 2013, 09:12
Helloo, it's May .....