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Laverda Forum => Parts Suppliers and Service Recomendations => Topic started by: Rob7 on August 23, 2020, 06:23

Title: Mirrors
Post by: Rob7 on August 23, 2020, 06:23
Having a dislike of mirrors sticking up in front of me I have been exploring various bar ends options in recent times - and have never been able to find any which did the job properly and which were usable at all speeds and didn't blur.

Until now.

Having just installed a pair of motogadget (following up an indicator tip from sideshow a few months back and rummaging around the website) glassless bar ends on both my 1000 and 500 I can only but recommend them as they do the job admirably and look good as well.

Rob
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: Paul Marx on August 23, 2020, 08:36
Bar ends are like panniers.

A hindrance for filtering through traffic.

Paul
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: LJ-2 on August 23, 2020, 09:10
I have one Oberon bar end mirror on the 3C recommended by another member,small unobstrusive,classy well made mirror.Nice kit.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Oberon-75mm-Convex-Adjustable-Motorcycle-Bike-Bar-End-Mirror-Silver-12-19mm/312772924033?epid=1142011614&hash=item48d2b81281:g:IXkAAOSw0w9dzQqI
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: Gerald on August 23, 2020, 10:56
The verdict lies with Lothar....
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: sideshow on August 23, 2020, 13:10
I have one Oberon bar end mirror on the 3C recommended by another member,small unobstrusive,classy well made mirror.Nice kit.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Oberon-75mm-Convex-Adjustable-Motorcycle-Bike-Bar-End-Mirror-Silver-12-19mm/312772924033?epid=1142011614&hash=item48d2b81281:g:IXkAAOSw0w9dzQqI



super nice mirror

check out this kit too

https://motogadget.com/shop/en/spiegel.html
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: LJ-2 on August 23, 2020, 15:22
Very nice, I think the Oberon suit the standard Laverda better,The M.Gs would be great on a special or modern bike I reckon.
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: sideshow on August 23, 2020, 19:14
Very nice, I think the Oberon suit the standard Laverda better,The M.Gs would be great on a special or modern bike I reckon.

I agree.  I have never seen them before.  They are really nice and really well priced
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: Ventodue on September 05, 2020, 09:25
Bar ends are like panniers.

A hindrance for filtering through traffic.

+1, Paul.  Never liked bar-ends ..
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: SZRacer on September 06, 2020, 18:27
Got one of thse for my Gilera Saturno (nowhere on the bar to mount a mirror).

 Very nicely made, and also available in Silver:

https://m.louis.eu/artikel/highsider-classic-bar-end-mirror-sold-indiv-black/10028846
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: andre g on September 06, 2020, 19:01
I take those

https://www.sausewind-shop.com/ruckblickspiegel-links-nierenform-blechschale-silber-mz-simson.html?source=google-shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyPnnuI3V6wIVguF3Ch2aNA2yEAQYASABEgKkYPD_BwE

generally they are also avaiable in black

Aluminium= light!

Andre

Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: helicopterjim on September 07, 2020, 01:15
Bar ends are like panniers.

A hindrance for filtering through traffic.

Paul

I find that if small out of the way mirrors are important ...... then no mirrors is the ultimate.

Whatsa behinds me donta matter!

Jim
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: 3CBRG on September 07, 2020, 03:39
My bar end mirror pivots 'up and over' easily when in traffic. Still functional above the hand too. First one I've used, came with bike. Took it off to use stock 70's bar mounted mirror. Soon reverted back. Seems to vibrate different frequency or something. Can actually see behind. It's old and made in Japan. Think I'll try to find similar for other bike. 
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: Brett on September 18, 2020, 22:43
I am not a fan for bar end but need to use on the Cico and to be honest they are the best mirrors on any of the bikes.. and they aint cheap Chinese... called lane splitters by CRG
http://constructorsrg.com/mirrors/index.html
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: Paul Marx on September 19, 2020, 13:21
I am not a fan for bar end but need to use on the Cico and to be honest they are the best mirrors on any of the bikes.. and they aint cheap Chinese... called lane splitters by CRG
http://constructorsrg.com/mirrors/index.html

They are cheap Chinese, just more expensive.

Paul
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: TC on September 19, 2020, 23:16
Sorry Paul but I believe your mistaken.
Or as Fonzy would say.... wwww..wwwwrrrr....wwwwrrrooo
Never mind.

Tom
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: Dellortoman on September 20, 2020, 02:49
I have the cheap Chinese version of the CRG mirrors. They work well enough but quality is as you'd expect for a $20 product. I busted one of the aluminium parts just by tightening the clamping screws enough to stop it vibrating out of position. I ended up buying a second set just for spare parts.  ::)

Cheap Chinese mirrors on ebay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pair-7-8-Motorcycle-Handle-Bar-End-Mirrors-Motorbike-Scooter-Rearview-Side-View/264836470591?epid=1066902193&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3da97bd73f:g:x6EAAOSwoWFfO39I&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkXKoKcbeZcOrOku%252BoOBl%252BSxNdNgSWVQMgAtJy0qiXzYksaOLinHgnim70usJqLKPIIqDNhKol7dpZCMJNw8AD7FvuLEa6Y3qAOzwy7CFCmgPTLDTR6IIKjE1GiTbEYn1ezkEBjbtyGstTOhdAVNT2MqSGS5Jzh4uM%252BnD5979bCG0s%252BOELaH0OdlY7%252FZXIFvgNE8GuWUr2ki3vzXQEL9AfVBsb9X4UnemcnMXZtrjuvpcaim0dICjvs3h0%252FOl5HbMl%252FUu2x40Bz2gGxqNtujqEpK9qzt1X3sFAViEzAJzBmC0jp6AC6nZPMyCo%252FtGQintpVB%252FAYcW1hX9wnNb1vX7TKUNYfq3Dbf6wL0xVhzjJTrmhQuwKxkTKIoNJC9XzZYXEuHnX2F95T5q1mOL%252BIjLdf%252FEUpSobriBE8PsmfWTDwuFvl2r34UcLsWg49CY13fZUk%252F%252Byt0fXti7JpogRmy6c3BllVG6OoWKoU2k%252F8rPCMehoN92wSKuTMd9a5F7vF5eCPTnsS%252BI7bHxyHVKLkF1CXp7fKbyyQjQLBeUy80m8IWfGHT6x%252BLJzSEkR8wsbTAAFk2sbKzcuP%252BtI9FcHLUIkn9FOgqGHqza0J4eeqjlDLvVfgLY2K1%252FmP9VA4bwS%252F%252FKubeIvH8QcRcTkq0JSASwNPIZbtIgNHi6X92%252BUXaA6nhTxt3EQL75PB%252F03d4vXrnXNKJY5yT7KInQyGZXvoyE5FTPT4OiJ%252B%252FF7uatsv99TOB2NHkxB4t4%252B67Wgk%252FeqntEjSrc4V%252FWTHVzc3KksiL3sSw%253D%253D%7Ccksum%3A264836470591b3ace46da6dc4714a808d1e2f3d0803f%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524)
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: Vince on September 20, 2020, 02:57
Someone has to build a quality one for them to copy.I once bought a cheap Chinese saber saw, it lasted as expected. Failer point as shit metallurgy. Its blade holding system  snapped like a carot.Bought a Metarbo once next, still going 15 years later.
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: motoddrob on September 20, 2020, 04:00
Well Vince you get what you pay for. I've decided to boycott china as much as I can but it's near impossible. China needs to be put in it's place. Becoming the bully of the world.
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: Vince on September 20, 2020, 04:11
100% Rob.They went from reasonably amicable to aggressively belligerent and dictatorial in the last 10 years. There belt and road policy of aid has real bite in its tail. There appears to be zero wiggle room and I hope to hell it doest end up going where it appears to be Major Conflict where no one wins
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: Paul Marx on September 20, 2020, 07:35
Yamaha copied DKW. Look to where that led them.
( so did BSA and look where that led them )

Often "made in " means assembled in, but made elsewhere.

Paul
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: CLEMTOG on September 20, 2020, 11:34
don't you mean Suzuki copied MZ?
and the BSA/DKW relationship was not a copy but a war trophy.
sometimes (different in different territories) "made in"  could mean that they only had to put it in the box.
Benellis made in rice pudd land but (of course) sent to Italy for quality control!
and Triumph have three factories in Thailand, do they state "made in England"? I am stopping here...............
CLEM
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: lawrence on September 20, 2020, 18:01
I happen to have some recent - and very positive - experience here.  I put some new mirrors on my Mirage recently.  Initially I bought some cheapies and, as you might well expect, they were worthless.  And yes, they were Chinese.  I bought another, different set.  They are the finest mirrors I have ever owned. Deep chrome plating, excellent glass mirrors.  Not only great quality in the product, but the service was simply unbelievable.  They were dispatched via a private sector mail company at no cost to me.  They arrived in 2-3 days from Asia!   :)
The seller was KiWav and it is in Taiwan.  I'll let you decide if that is China or not -- for now.  I expect that, if current trends hold, there will soon be no question about Taiwan's status.   ::)
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: 3CBRG on September 21, 2020, 01:32
I discovered the bar end mirror I spoke of is Napoleon. Sort of period style too. Still available.
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: helicopterjim on September 21, 2020, 05:38
I bought another, different set.  They are the finest mirrors I have ever owned. Deep chrome plating, excellent glass mirrors.  Not only great quality in the product, but the service was simply unbelievable.  They were dispatched via a private sector mail company at no cost to me.  They arrived in 2-3 days from Asia!   :)
The seller was KiWav and it is in Taiwan.

I have to agree. I have bought 5 sets now. Put them on two Guzzi's, a Ducati and both 3C's. I really like the quality and the simple styling. Unfortunately the price has skyrocketed. When I bought them they were $49 a set. They are triple that price now. I bought them in both chrome and a satin black. Very solid and well made.

Jim

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mirrors-ellipse-Chrome-Aluminum-for-Moto-Guzzi-Aprilia-Harley-Ducati/184175789937?hash=item2ae1bb8771:g:7McAAOSwGBpeS8Ts (https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mirrors-ellipse-Chrome-Aluminum-for-Moto-Guzzi-Aprilia-Harley-Ducati/184175789937?hash=item2ae1bb8771:g:7McAAOSwGBpeS8Ts)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ZUgAAOSw4DVeS8Ts/s-l1600.jpg)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/7McAAOSwGBpeS8Ts/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: Ventodue on September 28, 2020, 11:07
I discovered the bar end mirror I spoke of is Napoleon. 

Wow!  That's a name from the past, Ric!  Had completely forgotten: Napoleon mirrors.

(Wonder why they had the same name as a minor aristocratic family from Corsica ...  :P)
Title: Re: Mirrors
Post by: DavidH on November 07, 2020, 07:14
KiWAV make some superb rear vision mirrors.
In Taiwan.

The mirrors for our 910R HYDROGEN Brutale cost 20% of the genuine item from MV, are equal to the originals in all aspects.
I would not be surprised if KiWAV actually make them and supply to MV who paint them to suit.

I can tell you from first hand experience of manufacturing in the PRC - there is no such word as QUALITY in their language.
It is a foreign concept and remains so after 28 years in my experience. 
Quality from an engineering, food and pharma perspective is every time, not just for inspection or as a sample.

As for Taiwan being part of China, if we applied the fact that many of their people came originally from the PRC, so they must be part of the PRC, then we need to apply the same thinking to Australia.